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Old 22-10-2009, 12:04 PM
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also is it right for us to go to other countries to work e.g spain,n. zealand, australia, canada dubai india???

when the shoe is on the other foot?
anybody been to dubai recently? mostly white europeans?
spain full of english!
i think i personally know more people who have left uk then have entered?
have a think yourself
Old 22-10-2009, 12:08 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
My point is,

Your saying we have fat lazy bastard's who were born here pal and they don't do fuck all for the country,(work)

Now what i am saying what other people who are not born here,your telling me they all work,And do there bit for the UK to make it better place,

We have both bad and good mate within people who are born here and people who come here but your plain view is a little silly mate

"benefit culture is the scum of the uk not immigrants" So your telling me

immigrant's do not take the country for a free ride mate?

Yes we have our own people who do no lie to that but your a little silly in that statement mate

50/50 mate

I say anyone who is on benfit's need's looking alot better mate
not so sure i get what your saying but i think that i agree with you that we shouldnt be so quick to fund spongers uk born or not!
but i still do think that non uk residents are not entitled to as much as you think.
Old 22-10-2009, 12:08 PM
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BNP all the way, they always get my vote!
Old 22-10-2009, 12:09 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Who said illegal imigrant's
so who do you class as an immigrant if were not talking about illegal ones?
Old 22-10-2009, 12:10 PM
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I think it'll be worth watching, even if just to see if he's come up with any half decent policies. He has the ability to be quite a twat without trying.
Old 22-10-2009, 12:10 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
if your an illigal immigrant you cant just come and claim benefits!
You're right... but you never mentioned illegal immigrants before. The 'normal' immigrants can claim, which is why so many have come over and moved their families over too.

I'll Sky+ the BNP appearance tonight, if I read that it was sensational or controversial then I'll watch it.... if I don't then I'll probably delete it.


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Old 22-10-2009, 12:15 PM
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ill b watching, but, 2 b honest, my mind is already made up
i just want 2 make sure they still class ashley cole as non british lol
Old 22-10-2009, 12:17 PM
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It will actually be interesting to hear what Griffin has to say. Before now, all the other political parties have seemingly gagged them and they've had to stay more or less in the shadows. I'm sure that Labour, The Conservatives et al are expecting Griffin to trip up in a big way, but there's always a shot that he might say something that really rings true to the public at large, and it changes the way people think.

As far as I see, the BNP are something of an unknown quantity to the general public, who on the whole have no interest in politics. I doubt very much that many actually know what they stand for - the usual cry of "racist party / thugs etc" is something that has been fed out by the media in usual sensationlist style.

I'm not defending the BNP, but then I'm not shooting them down. I'm keeping an open mind on it all because I have no authoritive source or experience to say one thing or another.
Old 22-10-2009, 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Immigrant's mate are entitled to alot TBH weather u like the fact or not mate.

My mate is polish he came here 2 year ago,

He was housed in leed's pretty much straight away,My other mate has been on that list for an house 9month prior,

He got (polish mate) a cheque to buy a car YES he did 900quid i think it was,

He got all his bill's halfed mobile was goverment payed for,

No when does that happen to us the UK born and bread,

Now i cannot say that go's for all but in that one instance mate ,

Just a fact .

I can accept the why not help people out,But charity start's at home for me
Totally agree with this, a family member worked at an immigration detention centre, the immigrants stay there for a few months then they get housed, the likes of me i have been on the waiting list for 11+ years, so i know all to well that immigrants get an easy ride hence why they come here, this family member gor so fed up with what she was seeing she had to quit her job, it was that bad, and the things i was told made my blood boil.

But on the other hand i'm not racist, as you say there are lazy english here, but maybe they are of the mind set why work to pay taxes to keep these immigrants in benefits?
Old 22-10-2009, 12:36 PM
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I'll look here later for a review as i'm out of the country. GOnna get good viewing figures i expect...even from the haters!
Old 22-10-2009, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
also is it right for us to go to other countries to work e.g spain,n. zealand, australia, canada dubai india???
Yes, the key phrase in that quote above is "to work" mate... if all immigrants were adding value by coming into the UK to work, integrate with our culture and traditions then I'd have absolutely no problem at all.

The reality is very different unfortunately.


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Old 22-10-2009, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by t4 and greys
whats the point in watching it as its being pre-recorded 2 hrs early so it can be cut and edited anyway

so any shocking outbursts will be dampened down anyway!!!

pretty pointless imho

who gives a fuck anyway ! what ever ends up in a seat or actually end up in downing street will persicute anyone that breathes in one way or another wether ur white,black,pink,blue .So the BMP are on tv and people are going to kick up But they have a mep aswell as a mp and 6% of the vote so what can u do ? fuck them off then thats racist lol ! but bet ur left bollock if they ever get a term in power ther be like every other politictain , there look after themselves first

so watch it or not the situation will carry on and theres nothing we can do that will change anything
Old 22-10-2009, 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Shandy-Ade
Totally agree with this, a family member worked at an immigration detention centre, the immigrants stay there for a few months then they get housed, the likes of me i have been on the waiting list for 11+ years, so i know all to well that immigrants get an easy ride hence why they come here, this family member gor so fed up with what she was seeing she had to quit her job, it was that bad, and the things i was told made my blood boil.

But on the other hand i'm not racist, as you say there are lazy english here, but maybe they are of the mind set why work to pay taxes to keep these immigrants in benefits?
11 years you say!
Why don't you get a job and pay rent or buy a house???
Old 22-10-2009, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
11 years you say!
Why don't you get a job and pay rent or buy a house???
Why should i pay rent on my own property when the immigrants can get housed as soon as they step of a plane / boat? I was born and bread here paid taxes and have been fucked over
Old 22-10-2009, 01:16 PM
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Why should I pay to house you or an immigrant!??
In my book your a sponger!
Old 22-10-2009, 01:18 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
I just seen this

Mate TBH i think your a little daft with that statement .

We have immigrant's here and ILLEGAL immigrant's
if I'm so daft answer my question then?
What do you class as an immigrant then???
Old 22-10-2009, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
also is it right for us to go to other countries to work e.g spain,n. zealand, australia, canada dubai india???

when the shoe is on the other foot?
anybody been to dubai recently? mostly white europeans?
spain full of english!
i think i personally know more people who have left uk then have entered?
have a think yourself
I see your point but that isn't the issue I would want sorting. Somebody said it earlier, let's hope the government adpot some BNP policies but not them all.

We need immigration but what we also need is to control it and ensure British people are off the benefits and into work, it should be entirely compulsory and you should be PLACED into work regardless of your desire to be in that field, you then have the option of choosing a career from there.

Benefits are for sick people.

Which brings me onto the point that the less immigration, then the more work people could be PLACED into. This isn't a case of wether people want to or not it should be absolutely mandatory subject to genuine illness obviously.

I don't know any British people who have gone abroad to abuse the system. We have people migrating to better themselves by working in other countries.

Thats my opinion and viewpoint of the situation anyways. Poorly explained but hopefully you'll get my point in the end.

Tim
Old 22-10-2009, 01:22 PM
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am i rite in thinking there is no housing benefits, or health benefits...or any other benefits if i was to move abroad? especially if i didnt work?...
Old 22-10-2009, 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
I just seen this

Mate TBH i think your a little daft with that statement .

We have immigrant's here and ILLEGAL immigrant's
if I'm so daft answer my question then?
What do you class as an immigrant then???
Old 22-10-2009, 01:32 PM
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Personaly I've benefited from immgration
get a car wash for a fiver
building work of good quality and resonably priced
doctors of top quality
top kebabs
Old 22-10-2009, 01:56 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
Why should I pay to house you or an immigrant!??
In my book your a sponger!
PMSL

I was merely saying i have paid taxes, so why do immigrants come before me when i was born here? I can go rent privately tomorrow if i wanted but out of principle i wont.
Old 22-10-2009, 01:58 PM
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i agree witht the foreign doctors post, i often struggle, especially A+E i often have to ask them to find me someone who speaks clear english as they are not understandable.

i work with an asian bloke, whos just come over and can rarely understand him.this slows down work and also frustrates people as something cannot be discussed properly.
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Harsh reality!!
Spongers are complaining that someone is sponging more than them!
What they should be doing is getting of there arses and trying to make something if there lives!
That's why I give the geezer down the car wash a fiver coz he's trying hard to make living.
Gets on my nerves seeing all these spongers living of my wages!
Old 22-10-2009, 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by m3cosworth
Harsh reality!!
Spongers are complaining that someone is sponging more than them!
What they should be doing is getting of there arses and trying to make something if there lives!
That's why I give the geezer down the car wash a fiver coz he's trying hard to make living.
Gets on my nerves seeing all these spongers living of my wages!

your very hypocritical (sp) you dont like spongers...yet you will give a fiver to someone who is no doubt living in a council house?...

who says shandy-ade doesnt work? he might but not earn enough to rent a house but your sponging car washer (no pun intended) who is in the same situation but thats ok?....hmmmm
Old 22-10-2009, 02:04 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Indeed mate,

how ya been

Still not raving in the escort i hope caz has that on vid u seen it

not bad mate you?

lol always raving in the escort, spice girls, barbie girl and bob the builder full blast at shows? cant beat it!
Old 22-10-2009, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Shandy-Ade
PMSL

I was merely saying i have paid taxes, so why do immigrants come before me when i was born here? I can go rent privately tomorrow if i wanted but out of principle i wont.
that's a very noble attitude! Real solid principles!
Your worse than a sponger
Old 22-10-2009, 02:12 PM
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Originally Posted by S1 JOHN S1
Good man i need that CD was funny as at FF ,

Yeah champ aint bad at all TBH Loving life ,

You got a car mate aint a RS2k is it???

yup, put rs2000 into my mk5 should be on the road anyday once i sort the missfire and it firing on 3 cylinders, am hoping its a coilpack so gonna put a zetec/cvh efi pack on it and see if it works better

got 3 other cars and a bike but there just plain things other than the bike
Old 22-10-2009, 02:13 PM
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Go on then tell me how i am worse than a sponger just because i'm waiting on a council house (currently living with parents so the state aint paying no bills for me) and i wont rent privately?
Old 22-10-2009, 02:14 PM
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Most the people I know who live in council houses never could afford to save for there own house but could always afford to smoke or go the pub or have sky tv or wear designer gear!
Joke!
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Your a wannabe sponger?
Sponger in waiting?

Future sponger !


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