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Old 21-10-2009, 07:10 PM
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Default Urgent! How far will a car go with no gearbox oil?

As title, stuck 80 miles from home and my gearbox is fucked , is it worth trying to limp it or will it seize? Mondeo diesel mk2
Old 21-10-2009, 07:12 PM
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I struggled an Orion 1600 ghia back from Coventry with no gearbox oil - bearings seized on the shift mechanism and locked it in 5th, whined like a whore and conked out after about 90 miles
Old 21-10-2009, 07:12 PM
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It will go until it stops.

80 miles and you'll cook it for sure.

a tow costs XX, a new gearbox costs XX. Which one is cheaper?
Old 21-10-2009, 07:14 PM
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if the box is already fucked you got nothing to loose. can ou not even get some water in there if its goosed?

may help keep temps a bit lower.

or engine oil if you got any in the boot?

how far is the nearest services?
Old 21-10-2009, 07:20 PM
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aint ya got breakdown cover. you won't do it anygood.
Old 21-10-2009, 07:22 PM
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how loud does your stereo go?

crank it up and drive on
Old 21-10-2009, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by James @ M Developments
how loud does your stereo go?

crank it up and drive on


i'd of thought that some engine oil would of been better than nothing.
Old 21-10-2009, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
if the box is already fucked you got nothing to loose. can ou not even get some water in there if its goosed?

may help keep temps a bit lower.

or engine oil if you got any in the boot?

how far is the nearest services?
Judging by the post theres prob a hole in the box hence no oil :Cry: If not its not exactley easy to put some in on the road side lol.
Old 21-10-2009, 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Rhys
Judging by the post theres prob a hole in the box hence no oil :Cry: If not its not exactley easy to put some in on the road side lol.
Why not?

Sounds like there's a handy access hole!
Old 21-10-2009, 07:31 PM
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theres only one way to find out....
Old 21-10-2009, 07:33 PM
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rhys, if there is a hole in the casing i suspect wil may have a bigger problem than just no oil.

but it sounds like it will still drive, and if its fucked, nothing to loose!
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just wait till its raining, the spray from the road wheel will enter the hole, kind of self lube
Old 21-10-2009, 07:37 PM
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keep us updated!
Old 21-10-2009, 07:40 PM
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only 80 miles? pah thats easy
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its fucked so youve nothing to lose. drive until itll drive no more and hopefully youll have taken at least 40 miles of your recovery costs.
Old 21-10-2009, 07:51 PM
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A seal and fucked are two very different prices.

I did this once with a head gasket. Limped home. Little did I know that I was adding oil to the sump safely but the gasket was conveniently adding coolant to the sump as well.

Bye bye bottom end.

If you are going to stuff a new box in there drive it granny style to home. You still might need a tow anyway and now you have a really fucked box. Just trying to be the voice of reason.
Old 21-10-2009, 08:07 PM
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my mullet box did about 600 miles before it had oil in it, put oil in it did Croft track day then on the way home the syncos were on the way out.

box out....inspected....fooked! new mullet box needed.
Old 21-10-2009, 08:09 PM
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pics after please
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Well, got 50 miles and had to stop...... was touching cloth and only just made services

there is a nice big hole in the bottom of the box, hence no oil. Car is going in the scrapper soon anyway so nothing to loose, just enjoying pretending I have a bara box in it, it's whining like a bastard now

soon as I have finished downloading I will go for the last 25-30 miles, and if I fail the AA will be collecting me again!

Anyone got an M5 for sale?
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lol, i do have some somewhere but on the other pc.

it was still going strong except for getting it into gear.

sadly the heat and wear on the cogs,they could not be re-used, that was an expensive mistake that was.
Old 21-10-2009, 08:21 PM
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LOL shall we have a sweep, how far he gets?


DOH bit late in the reply!!! PMSL.


And thank you for confirming there was a big hole in the box

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i think he will get home with it like that, maybe hard to get into gears but should be ok.
Old 21-10-2009, 08:23 PM
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you have aa? damn should have recovered it and got em to drop you at halfords for some araldite
Old 21-10-2009, 08:28 PM
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PMSL just seen your post above mine Dave about forgetting the oil Opppss learnt he hard way lol.
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ok, so if you had a big hole in it, what the feck made that hole?

as one would assume that something has to have failed for it to make a hole and loose oil. therefore it would possibly not be drivable?

obv it is lol.
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Should of done a poll Will make it funnier for us

50 miles aint bad going, I done about 20 miles with no oil in a Mini once and the whole engine/gearbox went CLUNK with an almighty bang.... I have a picture somewhere of it on the side of the road pissing smoke LOL
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I know of a 21T that did around 300 miles with a gearbox that had a gaping big hole in the back of it where one of the shafts had knocked a hole in it - there was gearbox oil all over the underside of the car and non in the box - needless to say it did whine a bit but happily did 70+ from Swansea to Liverpool! lol
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Rhys, it was very hard......especially on my pocket!!
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Originally Posted by Fudgey
ok, so if you had a big hole in it, what the feck made that hole?

as one would assume that something has to have failed for it to make a hole and loose oil. therefore it would possibly not be drivable?

obv it is lol.

he could of had barbie girl on very loud and hit a speed hump,

Pussy boy Get it home! stop messing around.
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I know this is a thread about gearbox oil, but there are loads of vids on youtube of old civics being redlined with no engine oil at all until they seize, good vids to watch if you're as bored as me!
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What i dont understand is , you had AA cover ,had 80 miles to go and drove it , surely you should have had the AA out got recovered and saved your self 80 miles in fuel
Old 21-10-2009, 09:13 PM
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t5 in my cossie had no oil for 200 miles, stage 3 and got abused - still worked when i took it out, albeit a bit noisy!

it will keep going until it stops
Old 21-10-2009, 09:15 PM
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IM BACK ...

Right, story is as follows...

two weeks ago leaving work to go home (I'm in the RAF so work 80 miles away from home, commute weekly) my wrecker I smoke around in, the mondeo, looses all its gears. I get recovered the 80 miles home by the AA, as I have a carfull of stuff I need to get home. I assumed it was the gearbox, and was going to scrap the car as it is shit anyway ...

Mate says there is a common problem on the Mk2 mondy, where the gear selector roll pin falls out, easy fix as you can take it out from the top of the box, without dropping anything . So I rip it apart, and lo and behold it is the rollpin/bolt.

Mate fixes it free, and says it will go, but there is a chance that the debris will hit the crownwheel, and it will go between that and the casing and put a hole in it, but if you are lucky it will have stuck to the magnet in the bottom of the box.....No easy way to try and get it out, so can take the chance it will be ok as its not worth the time/hassle of dropping and draining the box to see if it comes out..

So put it all back together, and done about 300 miles without a problem, but tonight it decided to exit the box on the M4, as I was on my way to Brighton to pick up an exhaust for my saff ... Was just going into guildford when it went, so turned around and made it back to Lyneham ...

need a new car now though, saves me putting it through the MOT next month .. Gears are hard to get, but seems to be driving ok if a little sluggish, might chem metal the hole and dump some oil in it, see what happens

Couldn't be fucked waiting 3 hours for the AA and the 56mph drive back, the car cost Ł300 in march, so don't really care about it!!

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Originally Posted by GTi-R23
I know this is a thread about gearbox oil, but there are loads of vids on youtube of old civics being redlined with no engine oil at all until they seize, good vids to watch if you're as bored as me!

Link me then!
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I went to national day in about '96 in an erst with very little gearbox oil. Getting near to the circuit I had a tear up with a 3dr and when I went to slow down, I couldnt get it out of fifth. eventually with both hands wrenched it out of gear and got into the circuit. Took it dead easy on the way home. Once home stripped the box and put new bearings and selector forks, box lives on to this day!
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Doh, just read the whole story!!
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When me and my best mate were 18 we had two similar 1.5 civics that we used to abuse. His was driven flat out for thousands of miles with an increasingly noisy box and when we replaced it with a box from another 1.5 I had crashed, the original box from his car was bone dry!!

So either the last few miles on it coincided with that happening, or it had been dry for ages which I think is the more likely option!
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