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Old 12-10-2009, 01:44 PM
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Originally Posted by R4N S S
RSCOSWORTH1 - hows that for a spelling. Its amazing you know how to spell but cannot understand the concepts or meaning of the English Language - as said before you need to attain at least a GCSE grade in English Language which you clearly do not have.

Anyone who knows me will know my views are far far from PC

Funnily enough when I used to live in Southall (approx 10yrs old) I had never heard of the term Paki and this was in a predominantly asian area. Then when I moved to Slough all the honky kids were running around calling me Paki but I was genuinely confused as I am a Sikh and didnt understand they were using it in a derogatory manner.

Oh I used honky above to describe white people - i dont think you will find it offensive as I think it is ok to use
Honky haha funny man don't bother me mate at all that is what i am saying it is a word i have heard them all If ur a sikh then there really are mistaken mate can tell sikh's from pakistani's anyday lol.

and spelling mate u forgot the spaces in my name Rs Cosworth 1 u will find lol.

In a large asain community are asain's gonna call each other paki no lol.

Now if u take offence at paki that's your problem mate i don't as honkey don't bother me either so go for it god men actling children here over a word grow a pair and get on with life instead of moaning on 8page's worth :P
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Originally Posted by R4N S S


He probably would be best off getting a proper grasp of spoken english and the potential for words within the english language to have different meanings before he tries to master complicated stuff like that TBH mate.
No point him trying to run before he can walk with regards to english language and culture.
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Right had my say anyway all i can say is no wonder we had so many war's if we was all acting like fucking children like some of u are over a word.

He called me a cunt let's go to war,By some of your reckoning that would be acceptable.

A bit extreme that one he called me a cunt so let's stove his face in my god nice to see how CIVIL you lot are
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As for you being able to tell the difference between Sikh and Muslims can you please state them.

Oh and for the obvious being a turban - not all sikhs wear these so how do you differentiate ?
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Right had my say anyway all i can say is no wonder we had so many war's if we was all acting like fucking children like some of u are over a word.

He called me a cunt let's go to war,By some of your reckoning that would be acceptable.

A bit extreme that one he called me a cunt so let's stove his face in my god nice to see how CIVIL you lot are
I dont see anyone telling you that the correct way to respond to hearing an offensive word like CUNT is to stove someone's face in, that seems to be coming from your own inherent pent up aggression, possibly brought on by the frustration of living in a country who's language and culture you dont understand.
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Originally Posted by Chip
I dont see anyone telling you that the correct way to respond to hearing an offensive word like CUNT is to stove someone's face in, that seems to be coming from your own inherent pent up aggression, possibly brought on by the frustration of living in a country who's language and culture you dont understand.

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Originally Posted by Chip
I dont see anyone telling you that the correct way to respond to hearing an offensive word like CUNT is to stove someone's face in, that seems to be coming from your own inherent pent up aggression, possibly brought on by the frustration of living in a country who's language and culture you dont understand.
Flmao chip.

So what was it if someone walked upto and called u a cunt u would walk away and laugh ( I dont think so)!was on one of the reply's so what is that ment to mean if someone walked upto them and called them a cunt they'd do what? Walk away laugh like a civil human or act like an animal and fight over a word,?!?!

You'd get angry with them for calling u cunt? Why bother it's a word,

You'd fight them over a word, Why bother it's a word,

You'd walk away and laugh,Like i suggested BECAUSE it is only a word

Same as paki It's a word please pretty please grow up soon mate i can't be arguing about a WORD :cont ent:
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Flmao chip.

So what was it if someone walked upto and called u a cunt u would walk away and laugh ( I dont think so)!was on one of the reply's so what is that ment to mean if someone walked upto them and called them a cunt they'd do what? Walk away laugh like a civil human or act like an animal and fight over a word,?!?!
My reaction would probably be to think "oh dear, another example of why our society seems to be degrading" shrug my shoulders and walk off

You'd get angry with them for calling u cunt? Why bother it's a word,
It would depend on the context, but if it was just some chavvy little kid kicking off for no reason my anger would just be at the standards of parenting in this country more than at the individual kid who has been brought up too ignorantly to understand the language and culture of the country he lives in.

You'd fight them over a word, Why bother it's a word,
Of course not, why would I want to start a fight with a random person?

You'd walk away and laugh,Like i suggested BECAUSE it is only a word
Id walk away but I wouldnt particuarly laugh as I actually think its a shame that great britain is so quickly turning into just britain as a result of the lack of basic education and moral standards generally.


Same as paki It's a word
The word paki is one used by many hate groups in a derogatory manner, and as such in modern english culture is deemed by most to be an offensive word, I thought we had already covered this earlier in the thread but you still seem to be lacking the ability to understand the concept, you seem to be more interested in randomly starting discussions about fighting in the street for some reason.

can't be arguing about a WORD
Well you have spent a couple of pages talking about it, but I agree that very clearly you lack the basic education and understanding of the language of this country to actually put forward any sort of meaningful arguement or enter into any form of inteligent discussion on the matter.

If I saw a thread about knitting, I wouldnt start trying to add lots of replies on a subject I know nothing about, so it seems weird that you choose to do so on one about the english langauge, something you very clearly also know nothing about.

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Originally Posted by R4N S S


that better
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Hahaha love you man your greeeeeeat like tony the tony the tiger now were are your frosty's so i can sugar coat the world for ya
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How old are you mate?
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
Rs cosworth1
How old are you mate?
Older than i wanna be LOL,

27 soon,

And TBH chip in this entire thread were talking about a word "paki" some view offensive and some do not like me,Some will view cunt offensive some won't,

Simple fact's fella really i believe if someone said cunt to me in any context pal i would just laugh and know i am the bigger person for not taking offence to it,

But if ur paki why take offence to what u are?

Do the scottish no welsh no to what they are NO why would it be offensive to paki's or is it because it against PC view's but the scottish and welsh don't count then?hmmm,

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You're right. Us "jocks" don't usually count
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Words being offensive doesnt mean everyone will be offended by them, some will and some wont wether that be the word cunt or paki, I agree with you on that.
So when you say those sort of words you risk offending someone, wether you care about the risk of offending someone or not is of course your choice, in some people's case they deliberately use the paki purely to cause offence, in other cases people dont realise the implications of it as a word, so some people intentionally make that choice and others dont.

With regards to the difference between the word scot and paki, as per dozens of replies in this thread, its because of how the work paki has been used that it now has conatations, much like the word cunt, were you not paying attention to the disucssion you were in?
If you havent understood it by now, you probably just arent capable of understanding it TBH as multiple people in this thread have given good explanations as to how the english language evolves with regards words taking on meanings based on how they are commonly used etc.

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Originally Posted by Chip
Words being offensive doesnt mean everyone will be offended by them, some will and some wont wether that be the word cunt or paki, I agree with you on that.
So when you say those sort of words you risk offending someone, wether you care about the risk of offending someone or not is of course your choice, in some people's case they deliberately use the paki purely to cause offence, in other cases people dont realise the implications of it as a word, so some people intentionally make that choice and others dont.

With regards to the difference between the word scot and paki, as per dozens of replies in this thread, its because of how the work paki has been used that it now has conatations, much like the word cunt, were you not paying attention to the disucssion you were in?
If you havent understood it by now, you probably just arent capable of understanding it TBH as multiple people in this thread have given good explanations as to how the english language evolves with regards words taking on meanings based on how they are commonly used etc.
So we agree on summat lol.

Right do YOU think seriously i am gonna go out to the local shop and call the owner a paki HONESTLY i wouldn't dare but in the same respect i do not find it an offensive word. Sound's hypocritical TBH but i know what i mean,.

Scot welsh english, "jock" "sweaty sock" "sheep shagger" are all ofensive term's but somehow cos there a PAKI WHICH they are is offensive?? It's like calling a scottish a scot is it not chip? Just shorter word BUT SORRY PC brigade is here for the PAKI only as it seem's IMO weather it has more meaning to one and not the other FACT is you cannot have one rule for and another for another race of people

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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Right do YOU think seriously i am gonna go out to the local shop and call the owner a paki
No, of course not, as despite your prosestations otherwise I am sure you are aware its a word that lots of people find offensive.

HONESTLY i wouldn't dare
Aha, a breakthrough at last

but in the same respect i do not find it an offensive word.
You probably dont find it offensive because you havent had a load of people using it to you or your family in hate filled chants and as part of insults

Sound's hypocritical
Yes it does a bit

TBH but i know what i mean,.
You might know what you mean, but you seem to lack the language skills to effectively convey the reasoning for that to anyone else.


Scot welsh english, "jock" "sweaty sock" "sheep shagger" are all ofensive term's but somehow cos there a PAKI WHICH they are is offensive?? It's like calling a scottish a scot is it not chip? Just shorter word BUT SORRY PC brigade is here for the PAKI only as it seem's IMO weather it has more meaning to one and not the other FACT is you cannot have one rule for and another for another race of people
Scot doesnt get used continually as an insult, where as Paki does, as a result of this difference in use, it has a difference in how offensive it is or isnt, much like CUNT gets used as an insult but KNEE doesnt despite both being just bodyparts.
Thats got nothing to do with PC or not, its simply a difference in the way use of the word has evolved, thats how a living language continually changes over time.
Read a copy of anything by shakespear to see how much the english language has changed in just a few hundred years.

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Hang on good man there,

Right ur telling me scottish and welsh don't get a share of abuse JOCK SHEEP SHEEP SHAGGER hmmmmm your dumb pal sorry,And that IS WORSE as that is name calling u plank if your calling a pakistani a PAKI it is not an insult as that is what they are not a slang term like JOCK etc so think again u nugget,But it is not PC bullshit yet again as u don't want to say it as it may offened?,

As for going round saying PAKI i have a paki mate and he openly call's him self a paki So.........,Oh i get it's like black people and calling each other nigger (in the us) but yet a white person does that and it's racist i get ya chip .
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Hang on good man there,

Right ur telling me scottish and welsh don't get a share of abuse JOCK SHEEP SHEEP SHAGGER hmmmmm your dumb pal sorry
They get lots of abuse, usually in good fun rather than in hatred, and the abuse takes the form of the sort of words you mention, you dont generally abuse a welsh person by calling him welsh, hence this difference that you STILL dont seem to understand despite the fact you actually said you wouldnt dare call a random pakistani shop keeper a paki in case you caused offense.



And that IS WORSE as that is name calling u plank if your calling a pakistani a PAKI it is not an insult
As per above, its become an offensive term due to the prolific use of it as one, much like the word cunt.

as that is what they are not a slang term like JOCK etc so think again u nugget,But it is not PC bullshit yet again as u don't want to say it as it may offened?,
Ive never heard the word JOCK used an an insult personally, Ive only ever heard it said in good humour, so I would be surprised at anyone being offended by it.

As for going round saying PAKI i have a paki mate and he openly call's him self a paki So.........,Oh i get it's like black people and calling each other nigger (in the us) but yet a white person does that and it's racist i get ya chip .
Lots of black people use the term nigger yes, particuarly in rundown parts of the united states for example, but lots of other black people find it offensive, wether its said by a black person or a white person, therefore its a potentially offensive word.
Much like cunt again in fact, myself and my friends often refer to each other that way, like yours do, but that doesnt stop me from being capable of understanding the concept that it is offensive to other people, especially if used in certain contexts.
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This thread should be closed now.

The general concensus from this is Paki is not offensive, unless people want it to be to suit there situation.

We are going round in circles!
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Originally Posted by Chip
They get lots of abuse, usually in good fun rather than in hatred, and the abuse takes the form of the sort of words you mention, you dont generally abuse a welsh person by calling him welsh, hence this difference that you STILL dont seem to understand despite the fact you actually said you wouldnt dare call a random pakistani shop keeper a paki in case you caused offense.





As per above, its become an offensive term due to the prolific use of it as one, much like the word cunt.



Ive never heard the word JOCK used an an insult personally, Ive only ever heard it said in good humour, so I would be surprised at anyone being offended by it.



Lots of black people use the term nigger yes, particuarly in rundown parts of the united states for example, but lots of other black people find it offensive, wether its said by a black person or a white person, therefore its a potentially offensive word.
Much like cunt again in fact, myself and my friends often refer to each other that way, like yours do, but that doesnt stop me from being capable of understanding the concept that it is offensive to other people, especially if used in certain contexts.
Chip i would not go upto a scot or welsh and pull a joke at them same as a paki but if they were friend's then yes eventually the joke's would fly TBH,

What i am saying is 50/50 it is nor offensive or actually offensive is it has good term's and bad,But you lot seem to think it work's one way WHEN in fact it doesnt as u said if niggers can call each other nigger's and paki's can be called paki's then there is good and bad in both chip like cunt can be funny jokey way or can be hurtful way eh,

But i still VIEW paki as none offensive AS THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE CHIP!

SO what have we learned,

We can call welsh sheep shagger's and get away with it,Scot's Jock's,And white people in genral name as we don't give a fuck.

But call a pakastani a paki and MY GOD eh.

I leave it there chip in broad view paki is a short word for say pakastani FORGET hater's etc it is just a word .

If they don't like been called paki's well what do u want me to do change them i aint no god,

So ok aswell i can't say PAKI but i can go into my shop and please mr pakastani can u get me Doesnt quite work does it.I wouldnt call anyone by what they are but the fact is that is what they are and if they don't like it tough shit!.
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Originally Posted by timrud
This thread should be closed now.

The general concensus from this is Paki is not offensive, unless people want it to be to suit there situation.

We are going round in circles!
Indeed it's all how people read it.So a paki must have a bee in there bonnet to start with if they wanna take offence to what they ACTUALLY are

Closed.
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Chip i would not go upto a scot or welsh and pull a joke at them same as a paki but if they were friend's then yes eventually the joke's would fly TBH,

What i am saying is 50/50 it is nor offensive or actually offensive is it has good term's and bad,But you lot seem to think it work's one way WHEN in fact it doesnt as u said if niggers can call each other nigger's and paki's can be called paki's then there is good and bad in both chip like cunt can be funny jokey way or can be hurtful way eh,

But i still VIEW paki as none offensive AS THAT IS WHAT THEY ARE CHIP!

SO what have we learned,

We can call welsh sheep shagger's and get away with it,Scot's Jock's,And white people in genral name as we don't give a fuck.

But call a pakastani a paki and MY GOD eh.

I leave it there chip in broad view paki is a short word for say pakastani FORGET hater's etc it is just a word .

If they don't like been called paki's well what do u want me to do change them i aint no god,

So ok aswell i can't say PAKI but i can go into my shop and please mr pakastani can u get me Doesnt quite work does it.I wouldnt call anyone by what they are but the fact is that is what they are and if they don't like it tough shit!.

As tim says, its all been covered, I really cant be arsed telling you how the english language works a 20th time if it didnt help you understand the first 19 times.
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Indeed it's all how people read it.So a paki must have a bee in there bonnet to start with if they wanna take offence to what they ACTUALLY are

Closed.
Most of the people in this country being called Paki actually ARENT from pakistan though, thats the whole point, people use it as a derogatory term for indian people as well, despite them having no more links with pakistan than you have to germany.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Most of the people in this country being called Paki actually ARENT form pakistan though, thats the whole point, people use it as a term for indian people as well, despite them having no more links with pakistan than you have to germany.
Chip i never said anything about getting people mixed up though did.

I am using the term to call a PAKASTANI A PAKI simple.Not a another race but a PAKASTANI
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Chip i never said anything about getting people mixed up though did.

I am using the term to call a PAKASTANI A PAKI simple.Not a another race but a PAKASTANI
And how do you personally identify someone's heritage so accurately before you decide they are from pakistan then? What are the tale-tell differences that you go by to be so certain as it sounds like many other people in this thread who are less well up on indian and pakistani culture than you cant identify them so easily?

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Originally Posted by Chip
And how do you personally identify someone's heritage so accurately before you decide they are from pakistan then? What are the tale-tell differences that you go by to be so certain?
I would know them personally mate and find out Hence me not walking down the road going your a paki your a paki,
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
I would know them personally mate and find out Hence me not walking down the road going your a paki your a paki,
So you only refer to a shop as a "paki shop" if you know the shopholder personally?

How peculiar, if I knew the shop holder personally I would refer to it as "kumar's shop" or similar TBH

I wouldnt refer to your car as "the brit's car" I would refer to it as rs cosworth 1's car if I knew you well enough to recognise your car, and I would do the same to a shop.

Like I call spikey's pug exactly that rather than "the welsh pug"

Would you refer to my sierra as "the english sierra" if you saw it parked and new me personally well enough to know it belonged to me and where I was from etc?
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Yeah a paki shop there isnt where i live,

But up north it was sikh's who owned the shop next door not paki's so i don't accuse TBH.

Doesnt matter were not talking car's mate were talking paki's as that is what they are.

If u know me well enough you would that's john's car same as i would do if i saw your motor mate.
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Originally Posted by focusrrx87
thats it m8 90% of us r like this
the small amount that r acually racist for malicious reason have ruined it for us al we're all branned racist now for laughing and joking about these things
sum of my gd friends r pakistani but born here and they dnt even mind these sort of jokes they have similar bout us belive it or not.

as ozzy will have jokes about kiwi's and so on and so on
every place in the world will share jokes about "different people" to them,
it's how things work and sum ppl need to get over it we're not racist, just human!!!!!!
Oh man, im suprised the hobnobs have not been broken out yet!.
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1

So what was it if someone walked upto and called u a cunt u would walk away and laugh ( I dont think so)!was on one of the reply's so what is that ment to mean if someone walked upto them and called them a cunt they'd do what? Walk away laugh like a civil human or act like an animal and fight
If you walked up to me and called me a cunt to my face I would laugh hard in your face, and I can guarentee that you would get aggressive about the matter before I would.
I cant help it if your still a cave dweller beating your chest and making 'Ugg Ugg' noises to communicate.
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Originally Posted by Big G
If you walked up to me and called me a cunt to my face I would laugh hard in your face, and I can guarentee that you would get aggressive about the matter before I would.
I cant help it if your still a cave dweller beating your chest and making 'Ugg Ugg' noises to communicate.
Big g u have the wrong end of the stick pal read all the reply's as someone said to me I (me) would not walk away is someone called me a cunt and simply i said i would because it is only a word
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well im off to the paki shop for some jam you know the one with the golly wog on, once ive picked up my dinner from the chinky which is run by a jock slut whos in the right place the kitchen where women should be who is married to a sheep shagger. There shop has burnt down twice by Jewish lightning. Im going with my best friend who is black and is a poof but i dont mind cause im a white Englandi cunt







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FLMAO
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i can gaurantee i would get aggresive first if someone was calling me anything to my face.
you can marvel in the smugness of being the more civilised human as you pick your teeth up of the ground.
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