O.K. this may come across as a bit of a rant, which i guess it is, but im so fooking annoyed right now i need to know if i was right or not.

I've booked the day off work today so after dropping the missus off at work i was driving back home for a fun filled morning of playing COD in my boxers and a boozy afternoon in the pub

As I'm driving home i get stuck behind an old duffer in a Nissan Micra doing about 20mph on a 60mph road. I've been using this road daily since i passed my test 5 years ago and know there's a stretch with really good visibilty that's awesome for overtaking.

So we round the corner onto this long stretch of straight road, i check my mirrors and blind spot, indicate (don't know why I indicate when overtaking but i can't stop myself doing it ) and floor it.
As i'm about 3/4 of the way past the Micra a guy in Merc ML pulls up at the junction on the right hand side of the road indicating left (i.e the opposite direction to me).

This fooking knobber proceeds to honk and wave his arms as I pass him, by which point i'm back on my side of the road.
He then decides instead of going wherever it was he had to be, he is going to follow me. He catches up with me as we get into town and starts honking and flashing his lights at me again.

Now I refuse to be intimidated by some jumped up, fat prick, middle manager in his overpriced German penis extension so I promptly pull onto the pavement and get out of the car.
This guy has pulled up and got out of his motor already and has started storming up to me. I thought the vein on the side of his head was gonna pop before the collar around his flabby greasy neck.

Before I can even ask WTF his problem is he proceeds to launch into a tirade of abuse; calling me every name under the sun, telling me I nearly killed him and need to learn to drive etc etc ad nauseum.

I tried calming this ridiculous excuse for a human being down, but he wasnt having any of it. He just kept going on and on. At this point I'd had enough, i told him if he didn't STFU I'd bite his fooking nose off and gouge out his eyes. I also told him that as there's only about three houses in the cul-de-sac he pulled out of working out where he lived wouldn't be too hard, and I would make his life most unpleasant

He mumbled some bollocks about being too busy to argue with some cocky young bastard who thinks he knows everything (funny how he had the time to follow me in the opposite direction he was intending on going ) and pissed off.

Now the question I'm asking is, had i actually done anything wrong whatsoever?
The way i see it, i was on the main road, he was trying to join the main road at a give way juction. I was under the impression that as long as there was no traffic approaching then overtaking is ok, btw he hadn't started moving onto the main road yet.
Can someone please give me an answer it's really pissing me off not knowing 100% that I'm right and Fatty McTosser was being a jeb-end.

 

you shouldnt overtake near a junction mate, bit over the top getting followed though! I would have told him to fuck off too

 

The way HE acted WAS unreasonable. But was your maneuver safe or legal, I don't know.

 

I know what your saying about overtaking near a junction, the guy wasn't at the junction when i begun the manouver (sp?) and i was around the micra in a couple of secs as they were going so slowly.

I thought you only move from a give way onto the main road if it is safe to do after you have looked left and right

 

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lol guess thats one of them for me then

Still the guy was massive coont, so i dont feel that bad about being in the wrong

 

The guy should look both ways when pulling out of a junction, for exactly this reason - there could be someone (as you were in this case) on 'his' side of the road that he wanted to turn on to.

But you should never overtake if you will be passing a junction - for the simple reason that one day someone even more stupid than this Merc guy will just pull out on you and you will crash into them and maybe die or kill someone else.

Oh - and what is funny about indicating during an overtaking manoeuvre? You are supposed to indicate even if there is no-one behind you! You still need to indicate your intentions to the driver in front of you. It really pisses me off when people overtake without indicating.

So I recon the other guy was unreasonable, but you still made a mistake and your lucky he didnt make a bigger mistake and just pull out infront of you.

steve

 

Imo,youre right and wrong.
Right for telling the cock to go fuck himself,who wouldnt!
Wrong for overtaking near a junction as per the highway code.

Anyway its the micra's fault for causing the obstrution in the first place,dont think it would stand up in court tho

 

Had you made contact i think the responsibilty would have legally be his as he was joining the road and therefore checked it was safe to do so.....regardless of you being on the 'wrong' side of it and overtaking near a junction

The law doesnt say what side we 'have' to drive on and neither is the highway code law, altho it may be used to help prosecute you if you dont follow it in certain circumstances


TBH legally you 'may' be correct, but morally you were in the wrong as overtaking near a junction is poor judgement, had I been the other guy i'd have been pissed too, but chasing you down the road for a bit of aggro is well out of line. I'd have definitely told him to do one!

 

In all fairness i never overtake when i can see a junction - so IMO you were in the wrong to do that

however the bloke has clearly over reacted; as he should look both ways

 

Shouldn't have over taken near a junction, but the bloke overreacted and was most likely a bully, when you confronted him he lost his big balls.

I dare say had you not been the sort to stand up to him he would have took advantage.

 

See familiarity of local roads sometimes catches you out. But the guy in the Merc should stop driving as he gets too wound up. We all make errors of judgement on the roads and you just need to accept it and drive on and someday the Merc driver will make a mistake and would he like to be chased and ranted at!
Years ago people just honked their horn, waved a finger and that was it, I also been victim if this 'road rage' guy pulled out on roundabout on me, didn't like me honking him etc etc.

 

One of my mates a couple of years back had an accident involving this scenario. He pulled out on a straight to over take a slow moving car. A woman pulled out into the lane he was overtaking in and clipped him. Police were called and what not. In the end it was found to be her fault as it was a national speed limit and he had every right to be overtaking, she should have looked both ways before pulling out. The junction she pulled out of was quite well hidden and you wouldnt notice it unless you were looking for it. The police said this was part of the reason she was in the wrong.

You cant know where every junction is on every straight bit of road! (Obviously its different if its a major junction that can be seen for 100's of yards away)

 

As I said, onus is on person joining the road legally

 

That's where you went wrong. Complacency is a very bad thing when it comes to overtaking. I did exactly the same thing and ended up doing this...



Just because you know the road, it doesn't mean it's safe.

 

 

So legally i was in the wrong for overtaking near a juction, but IF the guy had pulled out it would've been at least partially his fault if an accident was to happen?
Just about to mission off to the pub now, I've calmed down a bit now but i would've loved to have given him a beasting lol.
With any luck he might pop in for a pint when he finishes work as my local's quite near (what i assume was) his house.
Could be an interesting afternoon

 

Fucking hell Dan! That's properly nasty, how did you manage that?
Imagine what would have happened if you were in a fast car

 

not sure but the law in this country is gay, my ex boss revered into my illegally parked car but i still got pad out for it and he got jack shit.

 

At the end of the day, no-one was hurt and he was hardly put in danger. The fat prick, as you called him was clearly having a bad day or something. He proved what a cock he was when he left because you was willing to give more than mouth.

I'll tell you who I think is at fault though, the Micra driver. People like him are menices.

Benni.

 

 

what i am saying is if the poster hit the merc, even though the poster broke the highway code he would probably still be the one who gets insurance payout

 

Highway code isnt the law, its just a set of guidelines

There isnt even a law that tells you what side of the road to drive on

The law is correct IMO in this case that the guy joining the road would be at fault.....the onus should be on him as he's pulling out.......

 

Merc bloke sounds like a typical stressed out knobhead.

I hear what people are saying about familiar roads though, I scared myself a bit the other day actually, overtaking on quite a short straight stretch of road before a right hand corner, I was in no real rush, but was just bored of sitting behind a slow moving van, I was back on my side of the road easily before the bend, but anyone coming at speed in the other direction would've been unsettled I think. I know the road like the back of my hand so went for it, but in hindsight it was a crap piece of driving. But hey we all have moments of madness, life would be boring otherwise.

Talking or road rage, I also had a similar incident a while back, I was waiting to pull out of a t-junction onto a main road, a guy approaching from the left started to indicate to come down the road I was trying to get out of, so I booted it to save waiting for him to turn across me, only for him to follow me, overtake me, skid to a halt in front of me, then get out of the car to confront me. I managed to calm him down a bit saying he was indicating etc etc, and he went on his merry way after exchanging insults.

Obviously I never trust other drivers indicators, but even if this guy hadn't have been indicating, I'd still have managed to get up to speed without slowing him down anyway so really didn't see what his problem was.

 

yep merging onto oncoming traffic means look both ways

 

You are a twat basically, and 100% in the wrong, yes he should look(both ways), and from what you're saying he did otherwise he would have pulled out and someone could be dead.
It's just a pity he didn't smack you one, hopefully you may learn a lesson from this.
I constantly moan at my mates for tailgating as this is my pet hate, and tell them to pick a object at the side of the road and count the time it takes to get to this after car in front has passed, they say it's 3 seconds or whatever, at which I say, and 3 seconds is worth killing yourself for ?
I'm by no means perfect and make mistakes like the next person, but things like above are dangerous.
tabetha

 

Also how many people DO look both ways when turning left, when effectly you are only giving way to the right - I do, but only because I don't trust other peoples driving

Z

 

i always look both ways as a natural reaction

 

go round and burn his house down.

 

I had an accident a few years ago where i over took a car on a straight road and a car pulled out in front of me and i hit it on the front drivers corner. We ended up going to the Police station to find out who was in the wrong and the copper backed me up. Said the other guy should not have pulled out as he had obviously not looked properly and because he was pulling out from a side street it wasn't his right of way. I got backed 100% by the police.

So i guess your situation is the same. If he had pulled out and you hit him it would have been his fault as it was your right of way not his. This is only providing there was not solid white lines or hatched area where you passed.

 

''I've been using this road daily since i passed my test 5 years ago and know there's a stretch with really good visibilty that's awesome for overtaking.''

Quite clearly, it does NOT have good visibilty like you say mate, and its certainly not awesome for overtaking.


You did probably the most dangerous thing you could possibly do to be honest mate. If he'd have pulled out (like 90% of people would i reckon), then you'd have been on HIS side of the road! Overtaking near/past junctions and its only goin to end one way at some point. Yes you were in the wrong for sure. Luckily, the bloke used his common sense and looked both ways as i know many would have only looked right when turning left, so yes you could have killed him like he said mate imafraid and he was quite within his rights to be pissed off about it, even though following you to tell you so is over the top in my opinion.

You were very lucky here mate, so id take it as a lesson.

 

dont junctions have give way markings at the end of them? thus giving way to vehicles on the road ont he other side of the give way markings

 

I was always under the impression that a car has to give way to traffic regardless to what side of the road it was on

A bit like there is a gay traffic calming thing near me, 3 islands in the road that you have to drive round and give way etc. There is a junction in the middle of the traffic calming bit that if someone is turning left out of (red), who gives way to who?




I have always thought that if I am coming straight down the road (yellow), onto the other side of the road to go round the traffic calming bit, the car waiting to pull out to the left of the junction has to give way to me, because I am on the wrong side of the road. Correct?

 

Whether its legally right or wrong is irrelevant really, its all about using common sense, and if everyone did, regardless of the laws/rules, then it would be far better and safer for everyone.

 

i was driving through chester along a main road when some turkey pulled out infront of me, i thought you cheeky ~:*** person,so i chased after him as i was going to kill him. i easily passed him in my much faster car and skidded to a halt infront,i was going beserk when the fella starts trying to calm me down,then i noticed his penis was hanging from out his trousers i fucked off sharpish swearing as i left


got to be carefull in chester as theres so many cameras,my mrs got chased after doing 70 in her rs turbo,the copper was bouncing but let her go cos it was xmas day

 

the micra driver could also have been taking a right turn without indicating,if i came up behind him approaching a junction and he was doing 20mph then id prob think he was taking a right turn,then when passed the junction and he's not turned right id overtake then if its safe too,you could have wiped out the micra and merc and worst case scenario you could be looking at doing time if any fatalaties as your at fault.lesson learnt and dont risk it again

 

it's fairly obvious that the road with the red is the main stretch of road turning ito the yellow road as the white lines are clearly marked

here are a few roads lke that near me and it's the same thing there

as for the op, the guy doing the pulling out was in the wrong for pulling out had he pulled out, he didn't so no one was in the wrong

personally, i would have taken his reg down and then reported him to the police for dangerous driving, if anything it would have calmed him down, you already know ehre he lives etc

 

 

so it was you you cunt!!

 

sounds to me like it was 'drive like a cunt day' on that road you were on.

micra shouldn't be going so slow, you shouldn't have been over taking by a junction, ml driver should have looked both ways before he moved. AND the ml driver needs to get laid, seems far too stressed out.