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Old 16-09-2009, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
nope
lol nope what......??
Old 16-09-2009, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by RANJ
nope

Beat me to it lol!
Old 16-09-2009, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by matt p
Nah mate, you spoke to guzzler from here think thats why he knows the car to

I just help out up there every now and then dude.
He Was very helpfull...if i get the car will be taking it back there to squeeze some extra ponies out of it!!
Old 16-09-2009, 08:53 AM
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gearbox sounds intresting, any more info?
Old 16-09-2009, 08:55 AM
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i'm a massive fan of series 2's but for that sort of money, as well as a sorted engine, you'd want a mint body, not neccesarily concourse paintwork, but no rust, solid roof, solid chassis rails, battery tray, under fusebox, and for resale original panels if possible (removes chance of rot at panel joins). oh and remember to poke along the sills, i had to do floor restos on both my series 2's (h-plates) as the sills were so rotten.

would love to own another one one day
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Originally Posted by StephenC
gearbox sounds intresting, any more info?
Not off hand mate there the only details i have at the moment.
Old 16-09-2009, 08:59 AM
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Theres loads of mugs on here pumping miles more cash than that into half finished projects, lashed up sheds and resto jobs on RST based cars and probably about 80% will either never see the road or wont be as good as that.

If you want a fast modded RST with all the hard work seemingly done and a solid shell then 6.5k is a steal IMO.

It would cost double to triple that to build one from scratch and develop it to that standard

Have you got any performance figures for it?
Old 16-09-2009, 09:02 AM
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I'd buy it! Looks nice. Rather have that than a pig ugly saff anyday
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Looks and spec fantastic, in answer to the quetion would I pay £6.5k though (and I am in no means disagreeing with its worth)? No
Old 16-09-2009, 09:17 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Why spend all that money with Jamie at jamsport then have the management swapped and set up by someone else?

Not a pop at jamie at all, ive used him a fair bit in the past and rate him very very highly..

At the end of the day, if you like it, can afford it, and want it, buy it. Its your money.
most people know the deal with Chris Todd, if you took a rally car in there for a punture repair he would try to talk you into removing Pectel to fit Omex
some people fall for it........

good to speak to you Jais, if you get it i'm sure you'll enjoy it
Old 16-09-2009, 09:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
most people know the deal with Chris Todd, if you took a rally car in there for a punture repair he would try to talk you into removing Pectel to fit Omex
some people fall for it........

good to speak to you Jais, if you get it i'm sure you'll enjoy it
Broster was telling me about this on the way to ND on sunday, was pissing myself hahahaha!!!
Old 16-09-2009, 09:46 AM
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go for it if you want it
Old 16-09-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
most people know the deal with Chris Todd, if you took a rally car in there for a punture repair he would try to talk you into removing Pectel to fit Omex
some people fall for it........

good to speak to you Jais, if you get it i'm sure you'll enjoy it
You to and thanks for your time.. your username rings a bell....sure i had some cossie bits off you years back lol.Going to see the car at the weekend so if i do get it will be down to your place to get you to give it the once over .
Old 16-09-2009, 09:52 AM
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
in what way is a saph 2nd place to an escos or 3dr ?

Looks
Desireability(if thats even a word )
Value
etc

Old 16-09-2009, 09:53 AM
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If you want an S2 RS Turbo of that standard then I reckon thats cheap.
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Not the first time ive heard of a tuner ripping off one management system to fit another rather than just do a couple of tweaks.

Cant blame people for wanting to work with what they are most familiar with but I do think the customers probably need to take a step back and think "err, why change the management just to fix some minor mapping issue?"
Old 16-09-2009, 10:12 AM
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Originally Posted by jaiscossie
Engine mods- 2.1 Zetec bottom end Conversion with Cosworth Racing rods, Cosworth Pistons, Steel Crank as normal, AP shells/bearings/nuts/bolts. Multilayer Head Gasket, Stage 3 cylinder head, ported, polished and gas flowed. Solid lifters, titanium springs. Vibratechnic mounts, Custom tubular manifold, GT30R roller bearing turbo, Custom inlet manifold, idle control valve. Silicone hoses water and boost. Pipercross airfilter. Custom down pipe and mongoose 3.5'' system with 4'' outward rolled tailpipe. Omex 600 Pro electronic management system, coil packs (NO distributor). Fitted and mapped by Torque of the Devil, Uxbridge. A genuine 300bhp car at 15psi boost.
With that sorta spec you would be looking at 3-4k worth of work atleast.

So if the car is ok i would say yes,if not and your buying the engine only really aint worth crap really is it.
Old 16-09-2009, 10:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
With that sorta spec you would be looking at 3-4k worth of work atleast.

So if the car is ok i would say yes,if not and your buying the engine only really aint worth crap really is it.
So your saying if I gave you a standard RST and £4k you could build that car?
Old 16-09-2009, 10:34 AM
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Found some details of the car in performance ford after an rs turbo shootout, 0-60 5.59 on the day (best 4.9 previous) max speed 149.70mph, 1/4 mile 13.56sec standing mile 34.58sec at 146.51mph

Pretty good really i think, altho thought top end would of made more or is this because of the gearing?
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
So your saying if I gave you a standard RST and £4k you could build that car?
Not all of it but mostly yes building an engine isnt that hard TBH.

If i had the time i would build my own ,

4k would get you 300hp out of the CVH anyway fully forged etc as that is what i am doing
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Not all of it but mostly yes building an engine isnt that hard TBH.

If i had the time i would build my own ,

4k would get you 300hp out of the CVH anyway fully forged etc as that is what i am doing
It sure as hell wouldnt get you an engine of the spec of this car, not even close!
Old 16-09-2009, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by jaiscossie
Found some details of the car in performance ford after an rs turbo shootout, 0-60 5.59 on the day (best 4.9 previous) max speed 149.70mph, 1/4 mile 13.56sec standing mile 34.58sec at 146.51mph

Pretty good really i think, altho thought top end would of made more or is this because of the gearing?
Yeah gearing would stop the top end mate.

But that's pretty impressive really need a better gear box she would be an animal then

It not about top speed but how fast she get's there bet that would decimate most thing's on the road as there quite light too TBH
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Originally Posted by Chip
It sure as hell wouldnt get you an engine of the spec of this car, not even close!
Chip 4k would get you a CVH with 300hp and built to last so what's the problem lol.

CVH are pretty strong TBH
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Originally Posted by Chip
It sure as hell wouldnt get you an engine of the spec of this car, not even close!

Not a chance, not when a decent roller bearing turbo is around £1500 on its own
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Originally Posted by Chip
It sure as hell wouldnt get you an engine of the spec of this car, not even close!
In fact there was an engine better specced than that on ebay for 5k with everything so aint half bad is it
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Yeah gearing would stop the top end mate.

But that's pretty impressive really need a better gear box she would be an animal then

It not about top speed but how fast she get's there bet that would decimate most thing's on the road as there quite light too TBH
Forgot to mention the car has a Quaife diff in the gearbox
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Originally Posted by jaiscossie
Forgot to mention the car has a Quaife diff in the gearbox
Rock on mate,

What box is he using? The BC IB5 MTX75?
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Originally Posted by jaiscossie
Not a chance, not when a decent roller bearing turbo is around £1500 on its own
Probably nearer a grand if you know where to go, but even still thats 25% of the budget gone.
Add in the manifold, the hoses, the injectors and the management and loom and all the other external bits you need like a decent intercooler, and thats easily another couple of grand gone.
So thats nearly all your budget gone and you havent even started on the engine itself yet
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Not all of it but mostly yes building an engine isnt that hard TBH.

If i had the time i would build my own ,

4k would get you 300hp out of the CVH anyway fully forged etc as that is what i am doing

Lol, so basically as I said you wouldn't get anywhere near the spec and development of that CAR ( not engine on a bench ) for that kind of cash
You couldnt build that engine and ancills for £4k Not a chance in hell


£6.5k is cheap
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Chip are u skimming my post's again lmao.

If you were building ya self it could be done don't mean u have to buy new part's how many people do u see running there own build's outta second hand part's and there about on the road so.

And teh FACT THE CVH can have over 300hp with 4k so why bother with a zetec?!hhmm WASTE OF MONEY and taking the original engine away from the car and there go's money wasted as it aint orginal.

Atleast i can my S1 has the original engine just heavily beefed up .

Use the CVH

Useng the CVH is IMHO and my view's
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
Lol, so basically as I said you wouldn't get anywhere near the spec and development of that CAR ( not engine on a bench ) for that kind of cash
You couldnt build that engine and ancills for £4k Not a chance in hell


£6.5k is cheap
Second hand part's mate

people do it all over the world

So why not ?!
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I personally wouldnt buy a S2 for 6.5k even at that spec. What if something breaks soon after you buy it with that sort of spec you could get a big bill on top of that? Also why is the chap selling it if he's spent so much coin on it? Is he not telling you something perhaps?

Does look a nice motor though
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Chip are u skimming my post's again lmao.

If you were building ya self it could be done don't mean u have to buy new part's how many people do u see running there own build's outta second hand part's and there about on the road so.

And teh FACT THE CVH can have over 300hp with 4k so why bother with a zetec?!hhmm WASTE OF MONEY and taking the original engine away from the car and there go's money wasted as it aint orginal.

Atleast i can my S1 has the original engine just heavily beefed up .

Use the CVH

Useng the CVH is IMHO and my view's
We arent talking about the semantics of cvh vs zetec

The question was is that car worth 6.5K and a sub question/statement from you saying you could build it for £4k


You couldnt.


and the point of the zetec is it would be in a lower state of tune than a cvh at 300+ bhp and therefore more likely to be/easier to make reliable
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Cfoster very good point's mate
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
We arent talking about the semantics of cvh vs zetec

The question was is that car worth 6.5K and a sub question/statement from you saying you could build it for £4k


You couldnt.


and the point of the zetec is it would be in a lower state of tune than a cvh at 300+ bhp and therfore more likely to be reliable
And i said mate read my post SECOND HAND PART'S from other failed zetec turbo's so it could be done
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Originally Posted by GUZZLER
most people know the deal with Chris Todd, if you took a rally car in there for a punture repair he would try to talk you into removing Pectel to fit Omex
some people fall for it........

good to speak to you Jais, if you get it i'm sure you'll enjoy it

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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
And i said mate read my post SECOND HAND PART'S from other failed zetec turbo's so it could be done
If you say so. But i'll disagree

But thats not to talk about the development costs too


As states theres loads of Mugs on here spending much more cash on their cars and getting much less than that car at £6.5k

No way on gods earth could you produce a car to that standard for the cost of a decent standard car and £4k
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
If you say so. But i'll disagree

But thats not to talk about the development costs too


As states theres loads of Mugs on here spending much more cash on their cars and getting much less than that car at £6.5k

No way on gods earth could you produce a car to that standard for the cost of a decent standard car and £4k
Ok i mate i say so my mate has built a fezza turbo 2.1 outta second hand part's for just over 4k so it is possible mate there are more failed zetec's blowing up etc than CVH so they break the engine and part's they don't need simple and then u snap a bargain .

in fact buy a FRS lump for 2k job done so it can be done throw another 2k at it and see 300hp with stock internal's JOB DONE
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Originally Posted by Rs Cosworth 1
Rock on mate,

What box is he using? The BC IB5 MTX75?
Pass lol will know more at the weekend...
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Originally Posted by Mondeo Man
If you say so. But i'll disagree

But thats not to talk about the development costs too


As states theres loads of Mugs on here spending much more cash on their cars and getting much less than that car at £6.5k

No way on gods earth could you produce a car to that standard for the cost of a decent standard car and £4k
There is one way you could do it all in for 4K mate

You have a standard car worth 2.5K yes?

Sell it.
Add that 2.5K to your 4K
Buy this car which is a BARGAIN, and anyone who knows anything about the cost of building things to this standard (which clearly isnt RS Cosworth 1, who has blatantly never done it and just *thinks* he knows how to) can see that


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