How many people on here run Emerald ECU
31-08-2009, 04:35 PM
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I run an Emerald K3 for my non turbo engine.
Reliability is not an issue, there a solid bit of kit.
And why would it not be upto the job of running a Turbo engine? It has all the required inputs and has a fast enough processor to do the required calculations to run anything on the road I believe.
Reliability is not an issue, there a solid bit of kit.
And why would it not be upto the job of running a Turbo engine? It has all the required inputs and has a fast enough processor to do the required calculations to run anything on the road I believe.
31-08-2009, 04:50 PM
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I use one
Reliable yes. never had a single issue. as long as you make the loom properly you'll be fine.
More than up to the job of running your zetec turbo.
says it does launch control ETC. but unsure if the software actually does that YET.
the instructions are clear, making your own loom is easy.
the only issue i see with Emerald is the software. if you are mapping it on a RR or engine dyno, its great... if you are gonna map it on the road, its not quite so easy.
but still possible, just takes a bit longer.
Reliable yes. never had a single issue. as long as you make the loom properly you'll be fine.
More than up to the job of running your zetec turbo.
says it does launch control ETC. but unsure if the software actually does that YET.
the instructions are clear, making your own loom is easy.
the only issue i see with Emerald is the software. if you are mapping it on a RR or engine dyno, its great... if you are gonna map it on the road, its not quite so easy.
but still possible, just takes a bit longer.
31-08-2009, 05:30 PM
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will be getting mapped on the rolling road by an authorized dealer down in the Taunton, Somerset area. but never heard much about the ecu so was a bit negative about having it fitted. what sort of ecu's is it on par with? i dont want to finnish my car and then that go and ruin all my hard work 
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31-08-2009, 06:54 PM
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i have it on my zetec turbo, chip said the thing he didnt like with it is you have to keep pulling over and saving to change map instead of doing it whilst driving and it doesnt replay (datalog?) but i havnt had any problems using it tbh
31-08-2009, 07:11 PM
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i have no experience of emerald or mapping any system or even any car so treat my views with caution!
at the power levels that you wish to run emerald may limit your choice of injectors as it can only run high impedance injectors properly and most injectors large enough for 450hp are low impedance.
cue tabetha!
at the power levels that you wish to run emerald may limit your choice of injectors as it can only run high impedance injectors properly and most injectors large enough for 450hp are low impedance.
cue tabetha!
31-08-2009, 07:14 PM
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i have no experience of emerald or mapping any system or even any car so treat my views with caution!
at the power levels that you wish to run emerald may limit your choice of injectors as it can only run high impedance injectors properly and most injectors large enough for 450hp are low impedance.
cue tabetha!
at the power levels that you wish to run emerald may limit your choice of injectors as it can only run high impedance injectors properly and most injectors large enough for 450hp are low impedance.
cue tabetha!
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31-08-2009, 07:20 PM
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no it was the fact that you could not do live updates, as in every time you did a change to the map you had to press ctrl-Alt-s or some think along them lines.
31-08-2009, 07:49 PM
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the way it was explained to me was that say this system was being used on a cossy any you were mapping it at WOT and high rpm and it starts to run lean you would want to change this instently where you would have to click ctrl-atl-s then wate a split second for it to change.
where most other ecus you could just up the value on the needed map sight and it would change it INSTENTLY
and as for driving with one hand and mapping with the other.........i dont advise this lol
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31-08-2009, 08:01 PM
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no mate i meant that when a change has been made to the map its not a case of just changing the map and it will update the ecu instantly as like most other ecus. with the emarald you have to make a change then press ctrl-alt-s i think it was
the way it was explained to me was that say this system was being used on a cossy any you were mapping it at WOT and high rpm and it starts to run lean you would want to change this instently where you would have to click ctrl-atl-s then wate a split second for it to change.
where most other ecus you could just up the value on the needed map sight and it would change it INSTENTLY
and as for driving with one hand and mapping with the other.........i dont advise this lol
the way it was explained to me was that say this system was being used on a cossy any you were mapping it at WOT and high rpm and it starts to run lean you would want to change this instently where you would have to click ctrl-atl-s then wate a split second for it to change.
where most other ecus you could just up the value on the needed map sight and it would change it INSTENTLY
and as for driving with one hand and mapping with the other.........i dont advise this lol
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31-08-2009, 08:05 PM
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some one like dave walker i think he is called lol
31-08-2009, 09:34 PM
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F8 page is shortcut to live update, if you make a change at any point you can store just that point, though it is very tedious, and er involves pressing the big enter button on the keypad.
I use the K3 as do a lot of others, some one make series are almost exclusively k3, though not sponsored by them.
It can use pretty much any sensor type, and can do to sequential ignition for high revving stuff if needed, coil on plug, 5 cylinder engines, V12 27 litre rolls royce merlin engined rover sd1's running two dizzys and 24 injectors, just for example, with a few mods to ecu.
It doesn't have any gimmicks that are no use, just have a look on emeraldm3d.com.
The people behind the firm emerald are quality people, best bit is you get to speak to the people who designed it and use it and map it, although there are people that Dave Walker(1/2 of emerald) supplies ecu's to that also map them.
They can run LOW impedance injectors with resistors, as I do but ran for 6 months without them at 2.1 ohm, ecu was fine, but injectors started overheating, this was purely down to my cock up I might add.
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I use the K3 as do a lot of others, some one make series are almost exclusively k3, though not sponsored by them.
It can use pretty much any sensor type, and can do to sequential ignition for high revving stuff if needed, coil on plug, 5 cylinder engines, V12 27 litre rolls royce merlin engined rover sd1's running two dizzys and 24 injectors, just for example, with a few mods to ecu.
It doesn't have any gimmicks that are no use, just have a look on emeraldm3d.com.
The people behind the firm emerald are quality people, best bit is you get to speak to the people who designed it and use it and map it, although there are people that Dave Walker(1/2 of emerald) supplies ecu's to that also map them.
They can run LOW impedance injectors with resistors, as I do but ran for 6 months without them at 2.1 ohm, ecu was fine, but injectors started overheating, this was purely down to my cock up I might add.
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31-08-2009, 09:39 PM
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F8 page is shortcut to live update, if you make a change at any point you can store just that point, though it is very tedious, and er involves pressing the big enter button on the keypad.
I use the K3 as do a lot of others, some one make series are almost exclusively k3, though not sponsored by them.
It can use pretty much any sensor type, and can do to sequential ignition for high revving stuff if needed, coil on plug, 5 cylinder engines, V12 27 litre rolls royce merlin engined rover sd1's running two dizzys and 24 injectors, just for example, with a few mods to ecu.
It doesn't have any gimmicks that are no use, just have a look on emeraldm3d.com.
The people behind the firm emerald are quality people, best bit is you get to speak to the people who designed it and use it and map it, although there are people that Dave Walker(1/2 of emerald) supplies ecu's to that also map them.
They can run LOW impedance injectors with resistors, as I do but ran for 6 months without them at 2.1 ohm, ecu was fine, but injectors started overheating, this was purely down to my cock up I might add.
tabetha
I use the K3 as do a lot of others, some one make series are almost exclusively k3, though not sponsored by them.
It can use pretty much any sensor type, and can do to sequential ignition for high revving stuff if needed, coil on plug, 5 cylinder engines, V12 27 litre rolls royce merlin engined rover sd1's running two dizzys and 24 injectors, just for example, with a few mods to ecu.
It doesn't have any gimmicks that are no use, just have a look on emeraldm3d.com.
The people behind the firm emerald are quality people, best bit is you get to speak to the people who designed it and use it and map it, although there are people that Dave Walker(1/2 of emerald) supplies ecu's to that also map them.
They can run LOW impedance injectors with resistors, as I do but ran for 6 months without them at 2.1 ohm, ecu was fine, but injectors started overheating, this was purely down to my cock up I might add.
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31-08-2009, 09:51 PM
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As above, you can adjust the map live using the , wait for it, live adjustments screen!
Any changes here will take effect instantly, and if you want to store those adjustments you can then save them to the ecu, or with one key press you can remove them.
Any changes here will take effect instantly, and if you want to store those adjustments you can then save them to the ecu, or with one key press you can remove them.
01-09-2009, 09:12 PM
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Yes, but in use, when mapping on the road.. the live adjustment screen adjusts literally just the single load site that the car happens to be in at that time..
Its basically quite difficult to hold the car at a very set load+RPM site
On the road, while you adjust it and check the results of that adjustment...
on the RR this is easy. as the rollers can hold the car at load points.
wish Emerald would do the software so that the GRID view could be made capeable of live adjustments.
apart from that its great
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01-09-2009, 09:25 PM
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Hmmm I see your point, not tried tweaking the map on the road yet
But i'm going to be giving it ago soon on the M20 between J9 and J8 where its quite flat to try and get better economy for driving upto Donny!
But i'm going to be giving it ago soon on the M20 between J9 and J8 where its quite flat to try and get better economy for driving upto Donny!
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I run the K3 and had no problems. I rang a few suppliers up first before opting for the Emerald. Dave Walker answered all my questions and seemed more interested in talking to me than others and he didnt try the hard sell.
I took my car all the way to his workshop for him to set it up, well worth the visit and excellent service. Even the lads opposite his premises stopped and chatted.
I havnt used any other management system so cannot comment on theres but if your in the range for a good affordable system, then Emerald ticks the right boxes.
Ohh and Karl has a mint old VW camper!!!
I took my car all the way to his workshop for him to set it up, well worth the visit and excellent service. Even the lads opposite his premises stopped and chatted.
I havnt used any other management system so cannot comment on theres but if your in the range for a good affordable system, then Emerald ticks the right boxes.
Ohh and Karl has a mint old VW camper!!!
15-10-2009, 09:18 PM
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I run the K3 and had no problems. I rang a few suppliers up first before opting for the Emerald. Dave Walker answered all my questions and seemed more interested in talking to me than others and he didnt try the hard sell.
I took my car all the way to his workshop for him to set it up, well worth the visit and excellent service. Even the lads opposite his premises stopped and chatted.
I havnt used any other management system so cannot comment on theres but if your in the range for a good affordable system, then Emerald ticks the right boxes.
Ohh and Karl has a mint old VW camper!!!
I took my car all the way to his workshop for him to set it up, well worth the visit and excellent service. Even the lads opposite his premises stopped and chatted.
I havnt used any other management system so cannot comment on theres but if your in the range for a good affordable system, then Emerald ticks the right boxes.
Ohh and Karl has a mint old VW camper!!!
is this management good with turbo applications?
15-10-2009, 09:35 PM
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My main two issues with emerald
Its TPS vs RPM based only as far as I can see, ive never found a way of swapping the main load site over to be MAP instead.
Which means very crude correction on boost
(markk said it could be swapped but never said how, I believe he is mistaken or talking about some other software than what emerald supply)
When you make changes on the grid screen you have to make a load of key presses to get it to update, which makes it a total PITA for on the road mapping
(live update screen that tabetha mentions is no use for road mapping as you cant hold a load cell accurately on the road)
Having mapped most ECU's on the market, I personally wouldnt touch an emerald given a choice of anything else, I would much prefer to use something with more professional mapping software like megasquirt for example.
Its TPS vs RPM based only as far as I can see, ive never found a way of swapping the main load site over to be MAP instead.
Which means very crude correction on boost
(markk said it could be swapped but never said how, I believe he is mistaken or talking about some other software than what emerald supply)
When you make changes on the grid screen you have to make a load of key presses to get it to update, which makes it a total PITA for on the road mapping
(live update screen that tabetha mentions is no use for road mapping as you cant hold a load cell accurately on the road)
Having mapped most ECU's on the market, I personally wouldnt touch an emerald given a choice of anything else, I would much prefer to use something with more professional mapping software like megasquirt for example.
15-10-2009, 10:08 PM
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15-10-2009, 10:26 PM
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i run it on a 500bhp cossie and will be running it on my race Saxo next year in stock hatch championship. Emerald, MBE and Omex are the favorite ecu in our championship and making good power from the 3. megasquirt was tried and soon chucked with a lot of the tuners in the championship
15-10-2009, 10:27 PM
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Maybe Tabetha can ask Dave for a definitive answer on if there is some other software that allows you to run it that way round or if the firmwear on the ecu only goes that way.
15-10-2009, 10:47 PM
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All the ones ive mapped have already where on a base map so ive just carried on from where they were at anyway, but with something like Paul's where I can spend the time on it to start from scratch i'll do it that way, far better!
Thats cool then, should be fine for the application the OP has in mind if it will work that way round, I still dont like the interface for road mapping obviously but at least it sounds like you can set the load value properly
