who's got sky HD.....old box IS better...why
31-08-2009, 09:10 AM
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who's got sky HD.....old box IS better...why
had HD fitted and the picture is mint, but my normal sky picture seems/has gone crap.......when the bloke fitted the HD he said what a good picture i had on "normal" sky.........anyway now with a new dish n HD box my normal channels really have lost quality......help.....i've still got my sky+ box so i'm thinking of setting that back up to check the picture....
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check the settings. Like make sure new box is set to RGB and not Pal etc etc
ALL the channels should be slightly better on a HD box... as you are now using a HDMI cable instead of a scart I take it?
ALL the channels should be slightly better on a HD box... as you are now using a HDMI cable instead of a scart I take it?
31-08-2009, 02:28 PM
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it's your eyes telling you that the hd pic is so good that the normal pic is now crap
look at the pics in the program menu, they should all be in hd
or check out the indian channels, 784 seems to have the best cheap quality version of film on it to make a good comparison
look at the pics in the program menu, they should all be in hd
or check out the indian channels, 784 seems to have the best cheap quality version of film on it to make a good comparison
31-08-2009, 03:00 PM
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....yeh using the hdmi that came with it.........but deffo a worse picture on "normal" sky....even ch 1,2,3,4,5 arn't as good......when i had the 2nd box fitted (1st had a fault) the bloke did a signal test and said it was good........i've fuckd on with a few different settings on the HDbox and t.v and it's no better......
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02-09-2009, 02:55 PM
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well just plugged my sky+ box and back in and the picture is deffo better on it......why am i getting a better "normal sky" picture on an old box and scart lead.....wtf
02-09-2009, 04:11 PM
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Because the analogue SCART input helps mute some of the nasty compressed video artefacts, like the blockiness. Watch SD channels through the SCART input, and use the HDMI purely for HD channels. For as long as digital TV uses highly compressed video, it will always look poo. It doesn't help that they're trying to squeeze more channels in, and more HD channels into the same bandwidth - the only way is to reduce the bit rate of the rest of the channels, which gives the picture even more compression artefacts.
I don't agree - even on my 5 year old FD Trinitron (don't dis a quality CRT), Sky Digital's picture quality has been going slowly downhill over the last 10 years as they've been squeezing more channels in, reducing the bandwidth for the rest. The nasty compression artefacts are more obvious now than ever before.
I don't agree - even on my 5 year old FD Trinitron (don't dis a quality CRT), Sky Digital's picture quality has been going slowly downhill over the last 10 years as they've been squeezing more channels in, reducing the bandwidth for the rest. The nasty compression artefacts are more obvious now than ever before.
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02-09-2009, 04:18 PM
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just got off the phone to sky......and apparently it my T.V.........when i told them i had a Viera he said it was a fault with them.....my HDCP is interfering with my HDMI board........i can see lots of phone calls tomorrow........
03-09-2009, 03:58 PM
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rhys the boxes only heck for updates periodically, theres a way of manually forcing it to do it tho, just google and you should find it, you press some buttons on the front when switching it on..
03-09-2009, 04:04 PM
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[quote=dojj;4372372]it's the over air software update they do to make sure the stuff is up to date as possible
it might be that the hdmi cable is the problem, have you tried to connect the hd box via the scart lead to see what the difference is yet?[/quote]......on "normal" sky it's a better picture...but a scart lead cant produce a HD picture....so it kind of defeats the object....the t.v's going back on satdy and an engineer is fixing it on mon/tuesday....i'm getting a load t.v.........
it might be that the hdmi cable is the problem, have you tried to connect the hd box via the scart lead to see what the difference is yet?[/quote]......on "normal" sky it's a better picture...but a scart lead cant produce a HD picture....so it kind of defeats the object....the t.v's going back on satdy and an engineer is fixing it on mon/tuesday....i'm getting a load t.v.........
03-09-2009, 04:29 PM
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To update the software you pull the power lead out the back of the box, hold down the backup button and plug the power lead back in. Keep holding the backup button down until you get a screen on your tv saying updating system software.
this was on my sky+ box. I cant see any other box being any different. Hope that helps.
this was on my sky+ box. I cant see any other box being any different. Hope that helps.
03-09-2009, 04:36 PM
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To update the software you pull the power lead out the back of the box, hold down the backup button and plug the power lead back in. Keep holding the backup button down until you get a screen on your tv saying updating system software.
this was on my sky+ box. I cant see any other box being any different. Hope that helps.
this was on my sky+ box. I cant see any other box being any different. Hope that helps.
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look on youtube mate
v easy to do!
I would give you a link but cant get on youtube at work. It only takes 2 mins to get ITV HD on your Sky HD box through the back door!
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Its good if you have a on-going problem, but wont always be noticable normally. If you go into the menu you can see the software code, which may change after a forced download...
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For as long as digital TV uses highly compressed video, it will always look poo. It doesn't help that they're trying to squeeze more channels in, and more HD channels into the same bandwidth - the only way is to reduce the bit rate of the rest of the channels, which gives the picture even more compression artefacts.
So true, I've been noticing this for years.
It's one of those things that pisses me off - and I can't help but notice it, lol. What's the point of paying out for the latest high resolution TV set only to be feeding it a shitty low-bandwidth, highly compressed signal?
All this hype about HD digital TV, and they can't even afford the bandwidth for decent quality SD digital TV.
rant over lol
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03-09-2009, 05:37 PM
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what a cunt.....just tried the itv hd thing and i havn't got the new epg set up......mine does everything but doesn't find the itvhd channel to save
03-09-2009, 07:00 PM
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I tired the backup thingy when switchin of the box before and didnt make any difference to software! I will try again though when at home next.
Will also try ITV HD
Will also try ITV HD
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..........what makes it worse is that now half the country has sky+/hd, what's the point in all the bandwidth sapping xxx +1 channels??!!!!!!!
If there was a problem with HDCP you wouldn't be getting a picture. Borrow a component video cable and see if the problem goes away - component can transmit HD at up to 1080P and doesn't carry HDCP data.
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If there was a problem with HDCP you wouldn't be getting a picture. Borrow a component video cable and see if the problem goes away - component can transmit HD at up to 1080P and doesn't carry HDCP data.
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