Pardeep

and we let it happen.

Was talking with a bunch of coppers today while they were doing some campaign shit. They were promoting the 'Black Police Force'. So i had a legitimate question as a part of Asian community in Southall. My question was why do Black people get their own Police Force?

The answer i got was because White police aren't fair and etc. So being me and love to argue. I asked if they thought that was a tad racist? He couldn't answer me. So i asked him which country is he living in? He replied 'England'. So i continued and said 'Which is a...?' and he looked at me funny. He didn't answer. I answered it with 'a white country'.

I got absolutely furious. Some of the people there were wearing 'Stop Black on Black Crime'. So asked the police about those T-Shirts and i said i find them really racist. Some cocky bitch replied in a attitude 'Why?' i said cos your T-Shirt says its ok to kill asians and white people. I said it doesn't say 'Stop Crime' it says 'Stop Black on Black Crime'.

I said if i were to wear a T-Shirt that said 'Indian Power' or 'Its a Indian thing they don't understand' i'd be labeled a Racist by scum like you. And after a crowd of white (most likely polish) and asians built up with my arguing, they packed up and left.

I don't get it. Why does a certain group of people need their own community of police?

Really fucked me off.

Mk1-stu

Good on you for sticking it to them fella !! Racism is a subject that i avoid like the plague, i'm not racist - i hate everyone, makes life soo much easier !!

fuzzy

because racism only works one way. everyone knows that.and its a theory enforced and endorsed by those in power.

frsjon

well said

TIFF

VERY well said

LHD220Turbo

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Pardeep; fair play to you mate!

i agree with fuzzy though; i'll never forget what Lennox Lewis said once in an interview before he fought vitali klitschko - he said "i get more pleasure out of beating up a white man than a black man" (or words to the effect). Nothing was ever said to lennox and nobody ever challenged him about it to my knowledge

now imagine if a white boxer said that about a black boxer, he'd be called a racist

.Ross.

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List of Ethnic Oriented organisations ... Good on ya Pardeep ..

Black Police Association
Black Londoners Forum
Black Information Link
Operation Black Vote
Muslim Council of Britain
Black Heritage Organisation
The Voice - newspaper
Board Of Deputies of British Jews
Jewish Telegraph
The Black Police association
Black people's mental health association
Black and Asian therapists online
National BME mental health network
Federation of Black housing organizations
The Black Londoners forum
Positive action in Housing
Asianfaces.co.uk,Asian modelling service
Society of Black lawyers
Society of Asian lawyers
BlackLawyersDirectory.com
asianjobsite.co.uk
BlackandAsiangrad.ac.uk
Ethnic media Group
Al-Nisa Muslim Women's Group
Al-Nur Muslim Women's Association
Antrim Chinese Community Association
Barnardos Chinese Lay Health Project
Chinese Welfare Association
BlackBritain.co.uk
EthnicBritain.co.uk
Sussex Black police Association
The National Black Writers and Artist Association
Black students Association
UK Black teachers Association
Black UK online
UK Asian business directory
Asian People's Disability alliance
Asian arts agency
Black Enterprise awards
BlackEngineer.com
Natwest Bank (Asian Entrepreneurs Unit)
Asian Voice
Black training and enterprise group
UK Black Pride
Ethnic Minority Foundation
Oshwal Elderly Welfare Association
Ethnic Minority and Black Regional Action for Community Empowerment (EMBRACE)
Black and Minority Ethnic Elders Group
Latin American elderly project
The Black Fundraisers Network
Black Arts Alliance
Southall Black Sisters Black student union
Dudley Black regeneration council
Black Professional Events
Black Health Agency
National Association for the advancement of Black people
African Caribbean Development agency (ACDA)
African caribbean education and training services (ACETS)
Afrik-African International Network
Asian mens group
Somerset Black development agency (SBDA)
Black families education support group

1098

In other words, 'only a white man can be racist'.

Pardeep

Exactly my point. If anyone other than a Black person was to wear a t-shirt saying 'White Power' or 'Its a Indian Thing' we'd be labeled Racist. I will not stand for any of it. No one should have that sort of privilege.

Punkie

Racism works all ways, however, as historically...blacks were generally given a bit of a shitty time by us honkeys "the man" feels like he has some making up to do...Thats why there is a lot of "Black Power" sentimentality taken in a "white country" where any other race would not be given the same freedom.

Its all a load of bollocks IMHO.

LHD220Turbo

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fair play for sticking up for what you believe in, good on ya

Pardeep

Its Wrong!!! I'm purposely gonna ask for a all Indian Police Force

RobL

lol floyd mayweather also said before his fight with hatton that theres no way hes getting beaten by a white man

panelbeater

i think they have one in india.... don't they?

i personally think you did what you thought was right and stood up for what you believe in! although i will stand up and say that i am racist to a point just like you are and the rest of the world!

barnard

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Good boy i get pissed off with peoples being able to hold a big day event where i live in a large park and call it asian mela day yet if white people where to do it and call it british day and fly england flags or something like that we would all be classed as racist arhh

Punkie

In Peterborough they do tend to put Asian police officers in the Asian community...especially Asian PCSOs and beat bobbies.

It is a bit fucking ridiculous!

RSandy

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amazing how tony blair once said that it is up to the black community to sort out knife crime etc, as it is them causing the issue, and yet when he says it, it got esculated into a race row across the front pages of every newspaper

but now some black people have learnt how to make t-shirts advertising THE EXACT SAME IDEA, they are now heroes preaching for the cause, to the point where they are given their own police force!!!

i dont see myself as a racist, im a realist. im tolerant to those who are tolerant to my ways. i have equal hate for some white chav wanting to stab me and steal my phone that i do for the black man trying the same thing. only difference is if i dont give the black man my phone and dont willingly get stabbed, im racist

Pardeep

There is a difference to having a festival (which is a Mela to us indians) and having your own coloured Police Force.

I don't have anything against celebrating culture weather its white, black, asian, chinese etc, I love a lot of cultures. BUT i do get really pissed off when the cultures want their own private cops in a country that isn't theirs and yet the UK gives them it.

Sorry but all this 'Black people get accused for everything' is total BS. They need to stop acting like victims and start standing up to their own wrong doings

Drunken Master

Know what you mean a while ago my friend was getting called "white boy" he turned around and said "black boy" and they all started jumping saying "You can't say that".

Fair play for saying it though as now it's not a case of who's most qualified for the job but what race they are. And why would you call it the "Black Police"!? Why not just the Police? Talk about division! Fair enough in Britain we have people of different origins and descent who cares as long as their doing their jobs correctly?

zetaboostboy522bhp

unfortunatly mate they want there own police , councils and areas of districts because they simply dont want to socialise with other races and beliefs , however it makes me really angry when we let all these foreigners in to our country claiming all our benifits etc without paying a penny in to the same system we all have to pay into. i spoke to a copper not long ago in derby about violent crime and he stated that around 75% was by the black minorty , he got called racist for that comment may i add by a coloured lad , the cop said no thats fact from last years crime figures etc . i just thought this is typical racism against the white man.

to me it seems we allow other peoples beliefs and rules to accomodate them and make them feel welcome then they are telling us to go fuck ourselves,

am i racist ? yes to a degree as i believe in my country , born , bred , and proud !
would i expect an asian to be different about his country ? no

well done mate for following what you believe is right !

cozzfather

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dont forget the good old racist welsh have their own police force,its called the heddlu and it consists of mainly lesbians,gays and taliban trained traffic cuntstables.

Psycho Warren

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the police and whole government to be fair, do loads and loads of positive discrimination.

Its wrong. I can understand why police etc need to know why ethnic minorities are not joining the force and hence make the force attractive to all races, but ethnic qouta's is plain wrong. rejecting police applicants because they are white IS racist. Yet it happens all the time. Most of the PCSO's round my way are trying to join police and cant get in for being white. They apparently have a policy of "score adjustment" for certain police exams where certain groups have thier scores reduced!!!!

p.cressie

Same goes for "1 extra" radio station. Christ could you imagine a radio station for only white music. The pc lot would have a field day

Elvis

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what really fucked me off is when isreal where bombing the fuck of the palestinians earlier this year. New agents near me has "SUPPORT ISREAL" PALISTINIANS OUT OF GAZA" etc.
if i was to put my political views on that conflict i would have got in trouble.

Pardeep

Seriously if i was Prime Minister this country would not be fucking about. No culture would get what they want because they feel discriminated and no one could start shit for it being the government as i'd be a coloured leader.

If they want all black or asian police then i can list a few countries they can go to. British Citizen and British Born folks would have Number 1 pick for jobs because i'd have the power. I'd say no to letting anyone into the UK unless they could meet the required requirements to begin a life in the UK (just like Canada do)

Oh how i wish

Diamonds.

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Were they genuine coppers or just supporters of that crap? Where abouts where they?

It is a load of bollox. how long does it take to sort yourself out and be "equal" like they wanted in the first place. they get equal rights if not more these days cause we feel "guilty" and its "bad" to say no to what they want or apply for etc. things should always be best person for whatever it is be it white asian or black etc. end of the day with the blinkers off most gun knife drug crime is black. thats a fact! and before the PC jump on it i do know whites etc do them crimes and others too.

But long story short stop kicking up a fuss and bitching and acting like twats and get on with life like everyone else. if you wanna be part of the only racew the human race stop fucking about making yourself seperate from the rest with black police, mobo awards, black this that and whatever. leave it lone pull ya head out your arse and be part of the human race ffs.

btw thats is aimed at all the M.L.K wannabe's etc.

Pardeep

They were out handing out Leaflets and the Cop Shelter was set up near the Fire Station. About 10 of them were genuine officers and others were just supporters giving them a hand.

Lee Reynolds

Racism is made worse by people banging on about it all the time, as it stirs things, even hate in some cases, up!

I put something up not long ago and the amount of race hate posts it generated was unreal it had to get pulled!

Diamonds.

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see to me thats rascist in itself cause you cant promote asians officers well you probably could actually... ok you couldnt promote white coppers it would just have to be "police"

plus what a waste of man hours, hope that was voluntry.

probably wouldnt have the bloody helicopter out so often if they done the work like the rest of em.

DeanRS

words by Bernard Hopkins before the Calzaghe Fight " i will never let a white boy beat me"-nothin said about that either, well suppose nothin needed to be after Calzaghe battering him!!

Pardeep

Yeah they are always disturbing sleep with that fucking thing flying around here.

matts1

they are generated to side step the "your picking on me because I am black", working to break down barriers and tackle the issues within black communities.

I agree with Diamonds, you can't have it both ways, if you want ot be part of a society be part of it and not look to be treated differently.

Lets not forget that most of these genius ideas of making people feel more welcomed are created by do gooder whities that do more harm in creating divid than good.

We can all carve our own path in life from money to money people to someone from a council estate who becomes a millionaire business man.

There will always be a minorty who will be racist on both sides of the fence, but why should we all be made to tread on eggshells for them?

if anything in todays society black people have more role models that anyone, and more proof that they can succeed, some of the best atheleties, musician, actors are black and not in small numbers.

MadMac

You know what, I am actually glad you said something like this Pardeep

At the end of the day, we are all a bit racist. But it is natural, us humans have been protecting things from people who arnt like us, or from a differnt area for as long as history goes back.

So unfortunately you will never get rid of racism, but sometimes I do feel todays groups and activists and PC brigade do give people the right to be "ligitimately" racist. And thats wrong.

The very notion of someone creating a group for a specific group of people determined by their cutural background, is, IMO, racist.

Diamonds.

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exactly! so no need to cut any slack.

Pardeep

Which is another reason i don't get why they still feel discriminated against?

Its pure Shite.

Chip

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If I can call a bird "blonde" without it being viewed as derogatory then I dont see why I cant call a bloke "black" for the colour of his skin without it being viewed as derogatory too.

The very act of making a big deal out of people commenting harmlessly on one aspect of a persons appearance doesnt help to remove racism, it has the effect of inventing it where it isnt actually present at all in the first place.

Shings

I love this thread... I completely get it and the idea of the MoBo awards and 1 Xtra amuse me because if a MoWo award or 1 extra (because obviously white people dont text speak) were ever thought up there would be hell to pay...

The amusing thing mostly about this thread is the fact that its started by someone who I assume is Asian, now.... if a white person had started this thread about the black on black crime...... would it be racist?? lol

Anyways, I'm with hating everyone equally if they're cunts to me.

J

1098

You wearing an "Its an Indian Thing" wouldn't have a Indian man as your self labelled as racist as your not white. Indians, Paki's (no racist, [abbreviation]), Blacks don't get labelled as racist as easily. These races and ethnicities walk onto this land and get everything layed on, furnished flats, bills, food expenses etc etc. They (the government) are cutting this down heavily though () due to up raw.

Had to say something as you're saying you (Indians) are prioritized to the same level white people are, which IS not true . You're making yourself sound like a whinger and you have a chip on your shoulder. Whites are being minoritized here which is not fair really. Obviously there are whites sponging off government schemes like the dole but it's not as bad an issue.

Edit:
I wouldn't say any of this is my political view on things as I don't have political views just opinions (some may say these are the same). Opinions are just thoughts really.

Pardeep

Cutting down on what? The fact they let immigrants come into he UK and use the NHS for Free? Families who don't work but they can afford to give them a cheque for £1500 to survive for the month?

You'd be surprised how many indian people see to a level of other people. You have 2 main Indian Generations in the uk. You have the old school who think its ok for they're own to thieve their way into the country and people who don't stand for shit and are proud of being British and want it equal rights.

Your opinion maybe its a chip on my shoulder or i'm whining. But the fact remains, is it fair? We pay tax and what we need done in this country doesn't get done but they can supply a all black police force? Sorry mate its all BS.

Wouldn't be called racist for wearing a T-Shirt saying 'Indian Power' or 'White Power'? I dare you to wear a T-shirt with a slogan and walk through somewhere like Golf Links Estate and see if you can walk off that estate unbruised.

Fact remains, 'Stop Black on Black Crime' is fucking racist to the bone. And i said it to a black cop that its wrong and it shares a message saying 'Crime against others who are not Black is hey fucking ok'. I also said to him that if anyone was to wear a t-shirt like that in regards to their own culture would be called 'Racist by scum like you'. He couldn't say anything to me because i pointed out a FACT. If they were so right about what they were doing they wouldn't have packed up and left.

Its not the case of whose sponging off the government. If they are they should at least be British citizens and not Tom, Dick and Harry from no where land. Whites, Indians, Black, Pakistani etc all sponge off the the Doll but that's not the issue at hand here.

The whole thing is 'Why do Black people need their own police force?' If we or any one non black was to wear the t-shirts like the ones i saw them wearing today and was to ask for their own coloured police force, we'd be all labeled racist. But Black people make out they are victims of so much that the UK are so blind to see it and give them what they want. Its disgusting.

90% of Knife crime in Southall has been reported as Black. So giving them their own Police force is helping where exactly? They commit the crime, go down for it and then whinge about being treated unfairly. You tell me where is that politically correct? I took a stand to it because IT'S WRONG!!! and i'll continue to stand up to it because this country has many who whinge but don't have the balls or aren't bothered to stand up to them.

Dub604

In my experience living in England and Canada. I have (for the most part) found that indians in the uk to be a good bunch, most of them speak english when out in public, they are more than happy to "shoot the shit" with a white guy. I am friends with several of whom i used to work with. Now, in Surrey, nr. Vancouver, Its a totally different world, they are totally segregated, they have their own phone book with only other indian companies etc.. they dont speak to whites, they keep everything in house.

Reverse racism is more prominent than the stereotypical white redneck "hating on colours"! Its pathetic, and it pisses me off. anyone remember that BNP song, Bran new leather jacket?? very true.

But look at it this way, who has been "in charge" whilst this has kicked into overdrive and everyone is flooding in to England to claim their undeserved piece of the pie, the social issues, teenage pregnancy, drugs problems, gun and knife crime, good 'ol nulabour. i hate to bring politics into this, but look at the timelines, sure there were some issues before,but not like now, the british people have been taught that you dont challenge any other race or you are racist.

AND YOU LOT KEEP VIOTING THE TOSSERS IN. vote for change this time. dont waste it.