harvey gibbs 450bhp engines are they good?
23-08-2009, 02:57 AM
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Ok ok, jus so peeps know, a top speed run is 100% WOT for the whole time & not many cars run for 20 WOT seconds on a race circuit. Makes a HUGE difference !! But a top speed engine doesnt get the same forces thrown at it like a race engine through corners & up down the power band 100% of the time !!
I believed the reason for Andy's failure at Brunters was the "nose cone" he fitted blocking a little too much of the intercooler/radiator & consequently the engine run too hot & let go ??
Botho turners have had engine's let go tho, Rod's MAD engine had loadsa probs wit head gaskets/blocks before it even got to the car but was alot of R&D & I think Dan (Monty) had loadsa probs wit his 540hp SCS engine & that threw a rod at brunters didn't it ? That was a fair few years ago tho !!
Without all the bickering, both turners are the bo**ocks & I wouldn't hesitate to drop my car at either place for a big power build & wouldn't blink an eye before givin it death at the first opportunity !!
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I believed the reason for Andy's failure at Brunters was the "nose cone" he fitted blocking a little too much of the intercooler/radiator & consequently the engine run too hot & let go ??
Botho turners have had engine's let go tho, Rod's MAD engine had loadsa probs wit head gaskets/blocks before it even got to the car but was alot of R&D & I think Dan (Monty) had loadsa probs wit his 540hp SCS engine & that threw a rod at brunters didn't it ? That was a fair few years ago tho !!
Without all the bickering, both turners are the bo**ocks & I wouldn't hesitate to drop my car at either place for a big power build & wouldn't blink an eye before givin it death at the first opportunity !!
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23-08-2009, 06:27 AM
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In the video posted the other day your car (Rod) hits 185 mph and the chap driving is only giving it some for 20 seconds, mega impressive, but lets say it takes 40 seconds for your average top speed run maybe less, perhaps you can tell us. That means your engine failed after 720 seconds of abuse ? Thats 12 laps of a 2 minute track. Hardly a great statment to use when trying to slag off someone else's engine.
Given that logic, Yums engine should be fucked by now as it done over 2k
Yum gets abuse every time its out just ask some of my passengers
ps good to see you can use a calculator
23-08-2009, 07:37 AM
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23-08-2009, 07:43 AM
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tbh im my eyes the cars that are pasted round track day in day out and run high power are THE best cars there are,the engine proves its metal by way of staying together by being hammered without issues time and time again
23-08-2009, 08:02 AM
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It was not the engine's fault it let go rod FACT & plus that was in the white car very early on once fixed it went on for 2 years of solid abuse gatebill smrc 2 season wins every track day available testing at knockhill even made a lancer day to show them boys hoow it was done 
The thing is FACT we will never know if dave's engine will be as reliable as andy & charlies he uses his on the road & going to do the odd track day/top speed run you cant go flat out on the road all the time quick bursts to show your mates dont count! that is just pub talk really! the both focus's only ever come out to get death & beleive me every min is death. So we will never know. be good to see a mad track car get used the same as they both do & to be fair im sure one of marks engine's would be up to the job. just wont be yum that prove's it
The thing is FACT we will never know if dave's engine will be as reliable as andy & charlies he uses his on the road & going to do the odd track day/top speed run you cant go flat out on the road all the time quick bursts to show your mates dont count! that is just pub talk really! the both focus's only ever come out to get death & beleive me every min is death. So we will never know. be good to see a mad track car get used the same as they both do & to be fair im sure one of marks engine's would be up to the job. just wont be yum that prove's it
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23-08-2009, 12:48 PM
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Its comical that this thread is still about, who gives a fuck about top speed this and track day that, at the end of the day these things are bits of metal that eventually will rust, get scrapped, written off etc etc
the way some hark on about it is just anorak which is totally slick wick wack,
coming back to the orginal thread starter...if you aint happy with something then talk to the person who you went to in the 1st place, why come on a net forum asking questions?
now ffs let this thread disappear and go and do something useful and stop masturbating over wack old fords
Luciano
the way some hark on about it is just anorak which is totally slick wick wack,
coming back to the orginal thread starter...if you aint happy with something then talk to the person who you went to in the 1st place, why come on a net forum asking questions?
now ffs let this thread disappear and go and do something useful and stop masturbating over wack old fords
Luciano
23-08-2009, 01:07 PM
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23-08-2009, 02:02 PM
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I was talking to a guy the other day, over here in oz about YB engins, and he said to me, them engins are like fucking handgrenades, just never heard any one say that be fore, as these ozes love a v8.
23-08-2009, 02:10 PM
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23-08-2009, 02:28 PM
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I think a lot of people on here talk about their cars as if it was a person. Nothing wrong with it. I think Dave has owned YUM long enough for it to be family.
Either way, YUM is my favourite cossie since i first saw it in Fast Ford Mag in 2001
23-08-2009, 02:52 PM
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I wasnt slating yum all im saying is that if yum lasts 2 year without the engine being touched apart from servicing you will never be able to say it lasted as long as the scs engine as yum's engine will never be put through what andy & charlies has been. Not a dig at you either you just simply dont use it for racing and as many track days as them, I should know by now you are a bit sensitive tho
23-08-2009, 03:19 PM
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I wasnt slating yum all im saying is that if yum lasts 2 year without the engine being touched apart from servicing you will never be able to say it lasted as long as the scs engine as yum's engine will never be put through what andy & charlies has been. Not a dig at you either you just simply dont use it for racing and as many track days as them, I should know by now you are a bit sensitive tho
Or are You too busy arse licking to notice these small Anomalys!
23-08-2009, 04:04 PM
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23-08-2009, 04:09 PM
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Its rods either way. Andy's is just about 800, Rods is 838. Really think people need to calm down, to the OP why didn't you discuss your concerns with the company? To Harvey and Jim, I know its probably difficult to see someone salting your business but tbh, you should have waited for the next day, rang the customer up and discussed with him that it was a 400bhp engine he was buying. As the old saying goes you can please all of the people some of the time and some of the people all the time....
23-08-2009, 06:40 PM
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Its comical that this thread is still about, who gives a fuck about top speed this and track day that, at the end of the day these things are bits of metal that eventually will rust, get scrapped, written off etc etc
the way some hark on about it is just anorak which is totally slick wick wack,
coming back to the orginal thread starter...if you aint happy with something then talk to the person who you went to in the 1st place, why come on a net forum asking questions?
now ffs let this thread disappear and go and do something useful and stop masturbating over wack old ford
Luciano
the way some hark on about it is just anorak which is totally slick wick wack,
coming back to the orginal thread starter...if you aint happy with something then talk to the person who you went to in the 1st place, why come on a net forum asking questions?
now ffs let this thread disappear and go and do something useful and stop masturbating over wack old ford
Luciano
andys wont its carbon
23-08-2009, 07:19 PM
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23-08-2009, 08:00 PM
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I don't see this is the place for them to justify themselves to you.
I don't have an engine from them but i know people locally who only take their cars to them and have only the highest praise for them. You are firmly in a minority.
The thread isn't helpful to the op nor the company concerned any grievances should have been directed in the proper way to SCS.
Just to add my word.
23-08-2009, 08:06 PM
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Im not out to ruin anyones reputation but just to state facts,if your reputation is damaged then thats your fault and you know it.
As for having fun?well re cossies i reckon if id have gone with a MAD 400 engine i would have had alot more fun!
Nothing more to say about SCS and Gibbs,all has been said.
23-08-2009, 09:09 PM
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[quote=cozzfather;4347217]seems odd to shell out on a cosworth donkey and then start asking q's !!
especially since his little fella comes on here
having seen his engines go and knowing people who have spent hard earned on them i'd say they are right up there.[/quot
thanks for your reply mate dont know what the DONKEY is ment to mean?
seems like harvey is the man cheers!
especially since his little fella comes on here
having seen his engines go and knowing people who have spent hard earned on them i'd say they are right up there.[/quot
thanks for your reply mate dont know what the DONKEY is ment to mean?
seems like harvey is the man cheers!