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and that is why i love castle coombe soooooo much ..
that corner is fun in the dry ..
Cant say i've ever been there. Im surprised at how many people seemed to spin in what seemed like a relatively easy thing to save considering how slow they were going, but ofcourse, its hard to judge if your not driving.
I thought EVO's were suposed to handle, i see a couple of Cossies get round there ok shame about the XR2 thou.
Nah you thought wrong. Evo's don't handle
Typical Quarry corner action at a wet Castle Combe, so much fun as long as you don't bin it. I've watched many spins, crashes and sweet power slides round the same spot.
Only spun there once myself, and I luckily landed up infield rather than out (where the barrier is )
There's a couple other good vids on You Tube of the same corner:
some of them drivers couldn't drive a slippery stick up a dogs arse there that bad.
first sight of a spin they don't get any lock on and just brake in a blind panic!
find even more amusing that as soon as they set off they boot it to the limiters to show the car is quick in a straight line,
power is nothing without control!
PMSL at 1:28 when the 3door goes round fine then some rice'd up evo spins out about 1sec later!
Had a giggle at that myself.
Guess the fella in the 3 door was just a far better judge of condition than the bloke in the evo who was probably wondering why the computer didnt sort it out for him
Surely if a lot of them had their stability control on they would have been prevented? I know people 'Claim' it slows you down, but it's got to be better than facing the wrong way, which slows you down anyway.
Regardless of where I am in my car and what I am doing, I never turn mine off and I certaintly wouldn't on a greasy track. All these fantastic features and no-one seems to use them.
Its funny how the vid got to over 2 mins before the first EVO applied a bit of opposite lock to stop thier spin.
see i was thinking the same thing? most of them didn't even use opposite lock or even some throttle to controll the slide.
im not the best driver but i do a little drifting and some of those attempts or no attempts to controll the drifts were pathetic. watch the evo at 3.09secs, gets a perfect slide going but no throttle to keep it facing forwards, he could have deffo controlled that powered out and ended up facing the right way too.... cant understand?
Last edited by cheeky dog; 19-08-2009 at 03:40 AM.
just poor driving. it really shows who can handle a car and who cant! if some of them drivers went into Stock hatch racing they would get trampled all over.
sadly no footage on that clip of yours, though the guy has LOTS of footage, but he made this up , basically making the evo's look shite, but i think was just showing the"moments" of the day
sadly no footage on that clip of yours, though the guy has LOTS of footage, but he made this up , basically making the evo's look shite, but i think was just showing the"moments" of the day
If it was mainly evo's there, then its going to be mainly evo's spinning I guess!
If you go into a corner with more momentum than you have the mechanical grip to rid yourself of, you are coming off the track.
Spot on Chip. In all honesty, i had a drive of my mates Evo5 that day as well (my first drive of an EVO in fairness) and i was surprised at how, almost unpredictable it "felt", despite all the electronic gubbins, there seemed little direct involvement in the whole cornering process. No natural balance of any sort, i'd even go so far as to say my shitbox of a nissan was much more predictable and trusting on turn in. True, they put the power down well once straight, but the finesse of cornering eluded me somewhat...
Not sure if it was a case of too many driver aids masking the feeling of what the chassis was trying to do?
If you go into a corner with more momentum than you have the mechanical grip to rid yourself of, you are coming off the track.
I can understand that but stabilty control would have saved a few of them. The moment the back end stepped out of line on a few of those, it would have been saved before it got out of hand.
I've played with mine on ice and it's kept me in check, so I'm sure it would have saved a good few of those.