towing a trailer at 21
06-08-2009, 09:55 PM
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towing a trailer at 21
i was speaking to some one from the dvla and without a trailer licence you can tow up to 750kg, well i was also told that after 21 you dont have to take a trailer test, just was wondering if anyone could shed some light on to this please
06-08-2009, 09:57 PM
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Drivers who have passed their test since 1st January 1997 will only have category B and not have category B+E on their licence. Without this category you will be restricted in the type of trailer you can tow. Category B+E allows you to tow trailers up to 3500kg provided that you do not exceed the towing vehicles towing limit (always refer to your vehicle handbook for its MAM and towing capacities before using it to tow a trailer).
Drivers with only category B on their licence can provisionally tow trailers up to 3500kg if accompanied by a driver who holds category B+E.
Drivers with only category B on their licence can provisionally tow trailers up to 3500kg if accompanied by a driver who holds category B+E.
06-08-2009, 09:59 PM
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????? thats confused me, well i passed 2006 so what will i be able to tow, i no i sound stupid but youve just confused me to fuck lol
06-08-2009, 10:00 PM
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Im afraid you'll need to take the test. Look on the dvla site, i was on there the other day looking at the same thing.
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06-08-2009, 10:00 PM
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but ive been offerd a car trailer by my grandad so want to se if i can tow
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06-08-2009, 10:02 PM
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no you cant tow with the trailer,
the gross weight will be too high,
you will need to take the test to tow with a trailer,
if your going to a bar it i would suggest being cautious and ringing the dvla
the gross weight will be too high,
you will need to take the test to tow with a trailer,
if your going to a bar it i would suggest being cautious and ringing the dvla
06-08-2009, 10:11 PM
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no more Granada's for me
if you passed your test before 1997 then you can tow a trailer up to 750kg, after this date you cannot unless you take a test, after this date as well you can only drive up to 3.5 tonne like a luton transit.
06-08-2009, 10:14 PM
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not wat dvla say. anyone with a licence can tow upto 750kg but before 1997 it was a certen trailer
06-08-2009, 10:18 PM
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may just get the trailer, what are the chances of a copper stopping me while towing a track car with a scooby? slim i would have thought
06-08-2009, 10:25 PM
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you might wanna cheack how much your scooby can actually tow unless you want to say bye bye to your licence or a large amount of cash in fines
And ive just taken this from dvla's site clearly states you need to take a test
Car driving licence first obtained since 1 January 1997
Drivers who passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 are required to pass an additional driving test in order to gain entitlement to category B+E and all larger vehicles. In addition to the new driving tests, drivers of vehicles which fall within subcategories C1, C1+E, D1 and D1+E also have to meet higher medical standards.
And ive just taken this from dvla's site clearly states you need to take a test
Car driving licence first obtained since 1 January 1997
Drivers who passed a car test on or after 1 January 1997 are required to pass an additional driving test in order to gain entitlement to category B+E and all larger vehicles. In addition to the new driving tests, drivers of vehicles which fall within subcategories C1, C1+E, D1 and D1+E also have to meet higher medical standards.
06-08-2009, 10:28 PM
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i know for deff i can tow upto 750kg.i know that for fact as my friend has a mk 2 and tows that on an a frame, and when i spoke to dvla they said aslong as it does not esxide 750kg im ok
06-08-2009, 10:41 PM
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are you blind pete it clearly states on dvla website only people who had pasted the test before 97 had the automatic right to tow a trailer, you didnt so you arent allowed.
Why do we bother helping people who are blind to black and white
Why do we bother helping people who are blind to black and white
06-08-2009, 10:43 PM
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Thats how i understood it aswell, upto 750kg and not exceeding the capability of the tow car it's fine.
I (i'm 22) have towed nearly three times this and passed a few coppers on the way with no issues, and the few traffic cops i know that i've enquired with, they're opinion was unless you're doing something obviously dangerous you'll be ok. tba a trailer/car on the back of an escort i'd say was dangerous and most likely over the max what an escort and tow. i'd suggest a land rover or similair.
I (i'm 22) have towed nearly three times this and passed a few coppers on the way with no issues, and the few traffic cops i know that i've enquired with, they're opinion was unless you're doing something obviously dangerous you'll be ok. tba a trailer/car on the back of an escort i'd say was dangerous and most likely over the max what an escort and tow. i'd suggest a land rover or similair.
06-08-2009, 10:44 PM
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i'm 99% sure there is a loophole and you can get around it.
06-08-2009, 10:46 PM
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Do the test its not fucking rocket science-chances of being stopped isn't what you should be worried about towing a car trailer without the proper licence
06-08-2009, 10:48 PM
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Calm yourselves everyone!!!!
have a read of this taken from DirectGov
Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:
Whereas
have a read of this taken from DirectGov
Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:
- a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Whereas
- the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
- Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle's handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.
06-08-2009, 10:53 PM
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you can get round it one way is easy second bit more complicated first option take the car off the trailer and drive it second option pass your test option number 3 .... u aint got one take the test
06-08-2009, 10:53 PM
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In a nutshell choose your tow vehicle wisely and make the car your towing LIGHT!!!...
Dont excede the limit of the cars towing weight.. make sure the trailer/car doesnt weigh more than the car your towing with AND make sure all combined are not more than 3500kg.
Thats how I take it anyway!
Dont excede the limit of the cars towing weight.. make sure the trailer/car doesnt weigh more than the car your towing with AND make sure all combined are not more than 3500kg.
Thats how I take it anyway!
06-08-2009, 10:57 PM
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Yes I did my B+E test recently, basically means I can tow over 750kg and go above the 3500kg limit.
If you do chance towing (outwith the B limits) without the B+E licence then you are technically driving without a licence in the eyes of the law. That means you're un-insured, even if the car/van you're towing with is..
If you do chance towing (outwith the B limits) without the B+E licence then you are technically driving without a licence in the eyes of the law. That means you're un-insured, even if the car/van you're towing with is..
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Calm yourselves everyone!!!!
have a read of this taken from DirectGov
Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:
Whereas
have a read of this taken from DirectGov
Category B: Vehicles up to 3.5 tonnes MAM and with up to eight passenger seats
Category B vehicles may be coupled with a trailer up to 750kgs MAM (allowing a combined weight up to 4.25 tonnes MAM) or a trailer over 750kgs MAM provided the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the towing vehicle, and the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes MAM.
For example:
- a vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.25 tonnes could be driven by the holder of a category B entitlement. This is because the MAM of the combination does not exceed 3.5 tonnes and also the MAM of the trailer does not exceed the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
Whereas
- the same vehicle with an unladen weight of 1.25 tonnes and a MAM of 2 tonnes when coupled with a trailer with a MAM of 1.5 tonnes would fall within category B+E. This is because although the combined weight of the vehicle and trailer is within the 3.5 tonnes MAM limit, the MAM of the trailer is more than the unladen weight of the drawing vehicle
- Vehicle manufacturers normally recommend a maximum weight of trailer appropriate to their vehicle. Details can usually be found in the vehicle's handbook or obtained from car dealerships. The size of the trailer recommended for an average family car with an unladen weight of around 1 tonne would be well within the new category B threshold.
so if i am towing useing a landrover 90 weighs about 1600kg i have a trailer on the back 2 wheeler home made job with a rookie rod xr2 compleatley stripped out can i drive it legially ????
06-08-2009, 11:00 PM
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Another thing to add is if you are clever enough to get the weights right to tow under the B category licence, get a trailer rated to the right weight, i.e. you can't tow a trailer with say a weight limit of 2000kg for talkings sake.
06-08-2009, 11:03 PM
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In a nutshell choose your tow vehicle wisely and make the car your towing LIGHT!!!...
Dont excede the limit of the cars towing weight.. make sure the trailer/car doesnt weigh more than the car your towing with AND make sure all combined are not more than 3500kg.
Thats how I take it anyway!
Dont excede the limit of the cars towing weight.. make sure the trailer/car doesnt weigh more than the car your towing with AND make sure all combined are not more than 3500kg.
Thats how I take it anyway!
yeah thats how i read it too, just checked on the direct.gov site also.
06-08-2009, 11:04 PM
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you also might want to make sure your insured to tow a trailer with a car on as if you have a accident you is gonna stuffed
Muzza mate it depends on what your landy is allowed to tow weight wise as if your over the landys towing capacity it dont matter your under 3500kg
Muzza mate it depends on what your landy is allowed to tow weight wise as if your over the landys towing capacity it dont matter your under 3500kg
06-08-2009, 11:08 PM
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you also might want to make sure your insured to tow a trailer with a car on as if you have a accident you is gonna stuffed
Muzza mate it depends on what your landy is allowed to tow weight wise as if your over the landys towing capacity it dont matter your under 3500kg
Muzza mate it depends on what your landy is allowed to tow weight wise as if your over the landys towing capacity it dont matter your under 3500kg
I missed that bit out
I would imagine the landy could tow that but check your owners manual... the other area is you cant have the vehicle filled with people and tools etc as this will throw you over the weight limit also....
