adamski frst

I'm gonna be running one in my rs and just had a quick question i need a pump to run from the tank to the swirl pot i believe anyone know wot one you use then i just use either 1 or 2 pumps after the swirl pot depending on the amount of fuel i need i think? i have the tank and pot just need to find out wat pumps really??? anyone help be really grateful!! cheers ad

GT2

Porkie has one in his car

markk

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use holley low pressure units , i have holley low pressure pumps on my car , works fine , mine are the red type !!

mark

adamski frst

ANYONE ANY PICS ?? OR INFO WILL THE RED ONE PUMP ENUF PETROL HEARD OF THAT BEFORE???

tiny

I found the holley pumps very noisey im currently running 2 aeromotive
pumps these are quiter but not as quiet as mallory pumps

markk

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no pics im afraid , one red unit if the return system is piped up properly will supply a lot of fuel , how much fuel do you need ?

as for noise ? its in a rally car makes no differance to me !!

but i must say that my high pressure FSE unit makes more noise than the low pressure unit , but cant say that the low pressure unit is noisy really

adamski frst

may be running 8 injectors so quite a bit of fuel?? noise dont matter its whether it does the job

markk

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just because its 8 injector doesnt ness mean alot of fuel , what cc's then are the inj ?

i run 4 greys without a problem

adamski frst

thats it i haven't got that far just got told i need a aux pump to feed the swirl pot and just wonder how much choice there is,how much and wats the best???

RichardPON

Some pics for ya:









My old setup without swirl:

adamski frst

cheers dude they look cool still bit confued tho ??

tiny

Nice

RichardPON

I was originally going to use two acet red tops to fill the swirl pot, and then a couple of Audi Quattro pumps to flow down the car.

I think there are far more people far better qualified on this subject, but I seem to remember that the return to the swirl pot has to be small to keep the system pressurised...........

markk

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RichardPON

Sorry, did somebody say something?

Gav Diamond

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So looking at Porkie's (stole the pic from his photobucket ) would there be an in tank punp feeding the swirl pot or is it gravity fed?????

Porkie

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Here is a pic of the complete set up. All from Pro Alloy



Very simple and very good, just the one pump. Gravity fed into the accumulator.

Click in my sig for their website

adamski frst

well still unsure wat i will need there is a pic of my cell on pg2 of this link.... http://www.fiestaturbo.com/phpBB/vie...90988&start=35


and wat u can't see is the twin outlets at the bottom and the swirl pot is just the usual pot so if anyone can have a look for me and gimme advice?

Sean Bicknell

My view on fuel systems have changed over the last few years. My old spec ran two in tank lift pumps that fed two high pressure pumps, so four in total. I did have one go down and tracking the fault was very time consuming.

My new spec uses an ally tank in the boot. The swirl pot / accumulator is actually part of the tank in a 2 litre sump type arrangement on the bottom of the tank. This then gravity feeds one high pressure fuel pump. All feeds and return are to the sump and the tank is obvioulsy baffled and foam filled.

In my opinion the advantages of this system are:

1. Its Simple, one pump, one tank, minimum amount of pipes and connections to leak etc.

2. Weight. As there are less bits there is less weight.

3. The accumulator / swirl pot will NEVER empty as it is directly fed by the tank on top of it through a 6" by 4" hole, so no lack of flow.

My views on less pups are in a multi pump setup, if one goes down your engine still gets SOME fuel, but probably only enough to make it run lean and melt. With a one pump system, if the pump stops, so does the engine as it simply runs out of petrol.

Here is a picture of Broms tank which is similiar to mine:



You can se the sump there at the bottom and the gravity feed to the one aeromotive pump. Don't worry about the seperate silver cossy pump, this is a seperate fuel system for the NOS setup.

Spiky

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no idea what is

adamski frst

my tank is baffled and foam filled too but as the tank is done dont wanna meddle so i think i'll have to run a pump to feed the swirl then 1 big one after ???

GT2

The other tank with yellow cap is for waterinjection or?

wayneclayden

GT2,
yes It is water injection chap.....

markk

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do non of you track day people worry about safety ?, what i mean is say applying a few of the rules that apply to motorsport for the fuel safety side, tanks being covered, roll over valves , breather syatems etc etc , as you do take part in a form of motorpsort , and in the event of a large accident

Sean Bicknell

Of course we all do Mark!!!!!!!!

Nah, I do have a one way valve on the breather and stuff.

markk

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wouldnt of thought anything less of you sean

Sean Bicknell

Mind you i may ditch it as it weighs a good few grams!!!!!!!!

markk

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you wanna get yourself on the bacon slicer m8 - loose a bit of your parklife m8