Chip

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You dont need to tell me about Clios mate, I have one myself as a cheap trackday car and Ive been round combe in my mates as passenger (clio cup) when he was banging out lap after lap in the 1:23s which is as quick as most evo's, that was his first time on track in the car too.

They are fantastic track weapons out of the box, and easy to make even better!

Rab

It's a track day car. You'd have a helmet on. No cunt would klnow it was you

Elvis

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my helmet has sideburns and a quiff glued on it

Rab

A std 172 and some R888's and you'd have more fun than Ron Jeremy at the 'girl who love ugly men with big cocks' convention!

Rab

Pussy

Elvis

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rs turbos any good on track or are they tosh?

Rab

About as much use as I am at knitting

Elvis

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i see

Rab

Honestly, I've had 9 RS Turbos. All special in their own way. All utterly useless at going fast. Most fun I've ever had on track was in my old 400 quid 205 GTi 1.9. Thrashed it to death and it came back for more. Was the most fun I've ever had outside of Mrs Rab's pants.

Elvis

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can you run a single seater on track days ?

Mk1-stu

instead of buying a turbo, why not get a cheap mk4, zetec it and upgrade the suspension & brakes ? would probably roll in about the same money as a std S2 and might actually work on the track then too

Elvis

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hmmm,
allmost all the work done http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/1985-FORD-FIES...d=p3286.c0.m14

Rab

See if you buy something that handles really well to start with, it makes a much better and more interesting track car in the end. Starting with something SHIT always ends up with something expensive, that'll just about keep up with something std thats NOT SHIT Trust me, have a look at my sig. 3-4 grand on keeping up with Std clios wearing R888's......

Buy something cheap and fun. It's easier and less hassle. Lose the blinkers

Elvis

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can you take something like this on track days?
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Leastone-Formu...d=p3286.c0.m14

The Youth.

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nothing wrong with big lazy V6 track cars

my xr4x4 cost me under Ł130 to buy and about a grand over 3 years in development







go out on a wet track day with ditchfinders on and even with 4wd you can have some fun!

http://s25.photobucket.com/albums/c8...nt=ste-wet.flv

my track car has be superb and drives really well,considering what it cost me to get here.

steve

Elvis

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anyone know if i could run a single seater?

mattxr3i

Enclosed wheel only most of the time

Chip

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Up your budget slightly and get an Elise.

They look good, go well, handle amazingly, and arent french.

Chip

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The 24v engines arent really all that lazy compared to the 12v ones we were talking about mate, think you got the wrong end of the stick there.

Spiky

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as he says

i had an elise and it handled amazingly

The Youth.

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understand, but if you watch that video I posted the camera car is my m8s 12v xr4x4!!! (the engine isn't standard tho and does go well) he was on 888's hence he had grip and I didn't, and is the reason he is catching me hand over fist you can see I have the straight line speed on him tho!

steve

Micky

I've used mine since 1995,not had a problem yet.And its quick too.Regards,Micky

Chip

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Tuning engines generally costs more than swapping to a better unit in the first place, you had the right idea putting a 24V in IMHO rather than tuning the 12V like your mate, I bet he has spent far more than you just to be slower!

Chip

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The other good thing about elise's these days is the residuals have started to really hold on the older ones.

If he buys a sierra for a grand and throws 4 grand at it, if he is lucky he will see 1.5K - 2K back in say 3 years when he sells it on, losing him 3K+

If he buys an elise for 7500 now, in 3 years I reckon it will still see 5-6K back, so the cost of ownership will be half in terms of depreciation.

Its also more likely to be reliable than a home built special too!


My nova has cost me the value of 3 elise's and if I sold it I would have to break it just to see back the value of 1 elise, and its not as quick as one round a track and is less reliable as its a continual development platform.
It also gets through tyres at 2 or 3 times the rate that an elise would!

I have it as a hobby that I enjoy working on, and dont mind that I spent probably 20 hours working on it for every 1 hour it will see on track, but thats what makes it a project car not a track car.
My clio is going to be the opposite way round hopefully, shouldnt need to work on it much (although have had to chuck a couple of gearboxes at it) and should be very cheap to use on track.

Porkie

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Ian, its Lee Manning. Hows you mate?

Edit... Just looked, I see you wearing trackies and Reebok Classics...

I see nothings changed in the 10 years since I last saw you!

Ade

Do exactly what you've got there!
'94 spec BTCC replica track slag with a 300BHP ZVH would be sweet.....

Sure a fully stripped out Mk1 ST24 would be a good bit of fun too. Do it!

Neil@FastFord

Elvis- Chip is giving you some solid advice here. I'd be repeating all he said really.

A track Mondy is a lame idea as mentioned.

If its a cheap track Ford, i would always say Puma or RS2000. My Mk4 Bonus was cool, took untold shit and was decent enough for a good giggle with just 128bhp. My other budget toy is my Puma 1.7. That's a good laugh too for the money, i very nearly got an RS2000 but went for the Puma as it came up for the right money at the right time. Not regretted it.

Ade

That peice of Pug shite uttely fell apart on its first track outing
Rose tinted specs or what?! You were miserable as fuck lying in a puddle of gear oil that day at Crail

Elvis

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i was thinking of BTCC rep just like the photo

Ade

Yep, they had 300BHP.... think that would be a great project, doing just that but on a budget.
Already got an MTX box in there so no transmission hassles like with Escorts & Fiestas either....

Chip

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300bhp ZVH?

How much are you allowing out of his 5K budget for that bearing in mind I figure as a bare minimum the money he needs to spend elsewhere on making such a mondeo is:

400 quid to buy an appopriate colour base car
200 quid in stickers
1000 for wheels and tyres (1 set of wheels, 2 sets of tyres, 1 wet and 1 dry)
500 for suspension and brakes just for a really basic upgrade
400 for a cage
200 for seats and harnesses
100 for a basic extinguisher setup

So thats best part of 3K of the budget gone before you even start on the engine.

binman jim

focus st170car - 3-3.5k2nd hand coilovers - Ł400pads, lines, fluid - Ł200bucket seat - Ł200tyres n stuff - Ł800= around your budget and its a ford

Chip

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And the focus handles well from the factory too.

Will hold its value reasonable well as well (well compared to throwing 4500 quid at a 500 quid mondeo!)

binman jim

jobs a goodun

The Youth.

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they never made a mk1 mondeo st24, they started on the mk2
and the v6 would the worst car to start with as the wiring is wrong, use a 2.0 zetec if going zvh

apart from getting it totally wrong the reply was good lol


steve

xr-stu

thats EXACTLY what i plan/hope to do! except ditch the heater, dash, power steering, tar pads on the floor etc to get more weight out. and then use it as my daily runner

have you driven it yet? how does it go/feel?

really really keen to get myself a puma now! just got a camper van and saab to get rid of first

xr-stu

also, anyone know if theres a fibrglass bonnet and boot available for the puma?

binman jim

think he meant st200 shape mondeo rather than st220 shape

Chip

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Think about security if its a daily driver

lead_foot

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Just cut out the inner skin, saves loads of weight and free.