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Old 22-07-2009, 10:05 AM
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Default Peoples experiances with cosworth 4x4 quaife big tooth group n gearboxes please

There is one on eBay currently and I wondered what they are worth and what sort of power they can reliably cope with? Does anyone here have 1st hand experiance of these boxes?
Are they easy to fix and parts available if needed?
Are they staight cut?

Any info would be appreciated
thanks
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Old 22-07-2009, 12:24 PM
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mine had been beatsed before i owned it marc.had been launched,tracked and generally raced on road. i had to change the stepper chain and a syncro. parts werent a problem for my man.
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didnt realise you were running a big tooth quaife kit neil, but have you personally give it a pasting because i will abuse it 24/7 lol and want to be sure
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Shit, stripped 3rd gear twice with a mere 450Bhp... Don't bother with one, they are shit. Go and get a fixit or a Bara gear kit, 1000 times better.
Old 22-07-2009, 04:11 PM
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Mates got one in his track saff,work well for the money,easy serviced ,and parts to repair are avalable at short notice,we dont all have thousands to spend on a box


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Originally Posted by M K
didnt realise you were running a big tooth quaife kit neil, but have you personally give it a pasting because i will abuse it 24/7 lol and want to be sure
not with enough power yet.its been given a bot of grief but the power isnt at 450 yet

im just going by what the bloke who built the car told me


although if it was me buying one to put in it would be a bara.
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Originally Posted by STUCOS
Mates got one in his track saff,work well for the money,easy serviced ,and parts to repair are avalable at short notice,we dont all have thousands to spend on a box


cheeRS stu
By the time you break it twice and pay for spares, labour and time off the road/ lost track days etc, just spend the money for a great box like the Bara, and in the long run in will be cheaper! Also, it will always hold its value if you need to sell.

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Old 23-07-2009, 09:08 AM
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I used to sell these, but after so many issues, I removed them from my website, as they struggle with anything over 400bhp...
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My 4x4 3-door eat this box three times, all in thrid gear and the last time I had only given the car a little squirt! Rubbish, buy right buy once.

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Originally Posted by PF Ben
My 4x4 3-door eat this box three times, all in thrid gear and the last time I had only given the car a little squirt! Rubbish, buy right buy once.

Ben
Speaking from experience, as Ben is, cheap always works out more expensive in the long run
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sounds as these boxes are a bit better than a standard box.
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Sure mike will confirm, but they are only rated to 300Bhp for group N? Or somthing very similar. I had my quaife off a mate, who bought it off Porkie who had no end of trouble with it, as did my mate, as did I ... I bet there was close to 5k spent on that fucking Quaife box the amount of times it died
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What kind of price are the barra boxes? Is there a website with prices and different options?
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look at the Reyland website,their on there.
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bara box all the way it was designed to be stronger than the quaife anyway

thats why bara has sold about 60 units if not more very little come back no broken gears yet from any of them no matter what power they have or had

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did bara ever do the dog version marco ?
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Originally Posted by markk
did bara ever do the dog version marco ?
hi mark

yes it's been out ages not much dearer either
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i know wennys car is a drag racer albeit road legal nearly 600 hp and his cozzie has a barra and his wheelspins all 4 wheels for about 30 foot off the start line and it doesn't shit itself, that is the test for a 4wd box i think and his works time and time again. i would say buying a box rated for 300 hp and running massivly over was daft and asking for it to break if used to the engines potential.
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yes i sorted the stuff out for wenny he is over the moon with the transmission

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I'm running 400bhp on mine with a standard box. Its starting to get noisy now so will prob go for a barra box when the time inevitably comes. Is there ever any good 2nd hand ones about?
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Originally Posted by cozzfather
i know wennys car is a drag racer albeit road legal nearly 600 hp and his cozzie has a barra and his wheelspins all 4 wheels for about 30 foot off the start line and it doesn't shit itself, that is the test for a 4wd box i think and his works time and time again. i would say buying a box rated for 300 hp and running massivly over was daft and asking for it to break if used to the engines potential.
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yes i sorted the stuff out for wenny he is over the moon with the transmission

marco
he doesnt fanny about either that box and diff's have had nothing but abuse from day 1 with over 500bhp with no problems at all
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what exactly is wenny using? box/diffs/ratios?

cheers for the pm marco sorry i havent replied yet but been working out some funds and need to wait to hear back from mdv who are doing my 4x4 chassis work before i know exactly what i have to play with

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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Shit, stripped 3rd gear twice with a mere 450Bhp... Don't bother with one, they are shit. Go and get a fixit or a Bara gear kit, 1000 times better.
me mate kitchen devil on here has a bara straight cut and ruined 3rd in about a week at 450 bhp
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Originally Posted by bad boy rs
me mate kitchen devil on here has a bara straight cut and ruined 3rd in about a week at 450 bhp
Before anyone says anything, it was the 3rd gear syncro that fucked up, not the actual gear kit, the gear kit is absolutely fine.

I think the syncro got damaged due to the quickshift (B&M) and means now I can't change into 3rd that quickly which is why I'm thinking of switching back the original gear lever.

While I'm on the subject, anyone have any idea how much it would be to replace the 3rd gear syncro? It is starting to piss me off now!! LOL!
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Originally Posted by Kitchen Devil
Before anyone says anything, it was the 3rd gear syncro that fucked up, not the actual gear kit, the gear kit is absolutely fine.

I think the syncro got damaged due to the quickshift (B&M) and means now I can't change into 3rd that quickly which is why I'm thinking of switching back the original gear lever.

While I'm on the subject, anyone have any idea how much it would be to replace the 3rd gear syncro? It is starting to piss me off now!! LOL!
B&M quick shifters are wank and destroy syncros .. Oh you already found that out ... get sick of telling people they are shit

Sell it on Ebay and you will get about £80-£100 for it. Laugh all the way to the bank, then go to Mike Rainbird and buy a MT75 Quickshift Knucle for £35 http://www.randbmotorsport.co.uk/sho...?ProductID=340

For your Syncro, Bara charge £200 for a strip, rebuild and dyno test, plus the cost of any parts, which for a single syncro is about £17 I think
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