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Old 18-07-2009, 05:59 PM
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Right as you may have seen ive been helping a mate look for one as he has no net at home. As it is me who has been receiving all the mails and pics about them for him ive now seen loads and its making me think about one...which is wierd as i have never been a big fan. I love Escort cossies and i like 3 doors but always thought saffs were just ok! But now im thinking at the price they fetch for what seem to be decent examples it maybe is worh buying one?
Having never been interested in owning one im now wondering what they are like? Do they drive(4x4) like the escos?

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Old 18-07-2009, 06:08 PM
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My standard one is great fun to drive, really can throw em about, so big power I imagine is even better!
Ive never driven an Escos, but my pal has driven a standard one, and he thought mine was nicer to drive, but only because he found the gearbox in the escy to be a bit more hard work.
Im sure someone will correct me if it was just the individual cars though ...
Old 18-07-2009, 06:08 PM
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saphs are great
Old 18-07-2009, 06:11 PM
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I quite fancy one myself, 2 wheeler tho...I think they are good fun cars, easy to work on and if you do things right and keep on top of them, no reason why they cant be reliable!
Old 18-07-2009, 06:14 PM
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2wd is deffo a better drive,had two 2wds and now a 4x4 and hate the bloody box.like drivin a fwd.slow to change as well.
could really nail the 2wd thu the box but with the 4x4 i end up tearin off in first then changin up and loosing half the speed while waiting for second.thrid ,forth,etc


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Old 18-07-2009, 06:15 PM
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hard to get a nice 2wd now tho,more nice 4x4 about
Old 18-07-2009, 06:17 PM
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tbh its the little things ive noticed while looking for my mate on the later 4x4 that just look better. Like the facelift dash etc. Im sure there will be more but they just seem to look better?
Old 18-07-2009, 06:18 PM
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My saff was my first rear wheel drive car, and I wish I still had it. I will be buying another one!! highly recomended!! The first day I had it, I nearly lost the back end coming off a roundabout!! scared teh shit out of me!!
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Like em mate. But, id be in the same predicament i am with the RS1600i, i wouldnt use it regular and it would be sat in the garage! Id use a taxi
Old 18-07-2009, 07:13 PM
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2wd saph is the best overall cossie imo. I have had a 3 door a 2wd saph and an escort, imo this is how they are

3 door was nice but felt like an old car and dated inside etc but they look the bollox
2wd saph was quick practical and felt a well built cmfy car
escos felt slow and heavy but was a nice drive and i didnt like 4x4 but got the looks from everyone including granys lol
Old 18-07-2009, 07:21 PM
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I liked my uncle's 4x4 sapph. Felt alot quicker than it was at 330bhp no doubt because of the Cosworth power delivery. Very fun cars!
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lee have a go in my new one
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ive had 5 saphs and my current 3-door and none seem more dated than others i feel them all the same
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Originally Posted by col cos1
ive had 5 saphs and my current 3-door and none seem more dated than others i feel them all the same
Do you not think the clock surround and the heater controls and the door card handles look a lot more dated than the saph ones?
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yeah the door handles id say that,but dashboard and overall feel seems the same to me,apart from the leather smell of the saph
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I quite like the facelift interior looks ok for an old banger lol

Gus, what you doing going back to cossies? You been round the block now mate lol! Still got a bike?
Old 18-07-2009, 08:00 PM
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2wd Sapph, early dash and light cloth trim. THE only way to have a Sapph IMO
Old 18-07-2009, 08:18 PM
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And sideways ern lol yours seems to do that a lot
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Originally Posted by BigErn
2wd Sapph, early dash and light cloth trim. THE only way to have a Sapph IMO
See as im not a big fan, that wouldnt be for me! But good for you
Old 18-07-2009, 08:34 PM
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Get one bought mate.If you get one that has been looked after you will be laughing.They are a good fun car and are practical too.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Get one bought mate.If you get one that has been looked after you will be laughing.They are a good fun car and are practical too.
I can see the appeal but as i say ive never really been a fan. I dunno, will see!
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Get yourself out in one,when it comes on boost it puts a massive smile on your face.
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They do look damn good value these days, even compared to the Jap competition.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Get yourself out in one,when it comes on boost it puts a massive smile on your face.
Thats what i mean by comparing to the escos, as my old white one made me smile all the time!
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I have owned 3 2wd saffs, driven lots of 3 doors & 4x4 saffs, and own an Escort Cossie and a 2wd saff. I would say the best all round package is the saff, and the 2wd saff has the edge over the 4x4 IMHO, close to 400bhp is easy to get, and in a 2wd car is seriously fast car.
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
I have owned 3 2wd saffs, driven lots of 3 doors & 4x4 saffs, and own an Escort Cossie and a 2wd saff. I would say the best all round package is the saff, and the 2wd saff has the edge over the 4x4 IMHO, close to 400bhp is easy to get, and in a 2wd car is seriously fast car.
Cheers Will.

Never driven a high powered RWD though, and the stories kinda put me off!
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ive had the 4x4 saff and now the escos and tbh for every day driving the saff wins hands down for comfort and drive.the escos is a great car but tbh if it wasnt the fact i have a garage now and only use it every now and then i wouldnt have one over the saff.i still love the saff's,the look,the drive everything
but the escos does handle better imo and looks wicked. just not comfy like the saff,and you can carry 5 people at 100 plus mph with loads of leg room but the escort is a squash for even one person in the back
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
I quite like the facelift interior looks ok for an old banger lol

Gus, what you doing going back to cossies? You been round the block now mate lol! Still got a bike?
dunno lee nice 52k miler came along at the right money
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
dunno lee nice 52k miler came along at the right money


Rubbish - You saw I had bought another one and followed suit
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Originally Posted by Bullett
ive had the 4x4 saff and now the escos and tbh for every day driving the saff wins hands down for comfort and drive.the escos is a great car but tbh if it wasnt the fact i have a garage now and only use it every now and then i wouldnt have one over the saff.i still love the saff's,the look,the drive everything
but the escos does handle better imo and looks wicked. just not comfy like the saff,and you can carry 5 people at 100 plus mph with loads of leg room but the escort is a squash for even one person in the back
The saff must be comfy then, as i thought the escos was quite a comfy car!
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A 4x4 Saph with a strong gear kit and 450+BHP....................Awsome


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the 4x4 saffs drive good imo Lee, go for one.

i have a 2wd car at the moment,standard power, and you cannot even floor that in the damp etc...without it breaking traction,totally useless imo.

i'm with you on the saffs, a nice late 92 car with the later dash,wheels,colours etc...and there are a good few fore sale at the right money.

gone on Lee.
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
the 4x4 saffs drive good imo Lee, go for one.

i have a 2wd car at the moment,standard power, and you cannot even floor that in the damp etc...without it breaking traction,totally useless imo.

i'm with you on the saffs, a nice late 92 car with the later dash,wheels,colours etc...and there are a good few fore sale at the right money.

gone on Lee.

I suppose the only way ill no is to go look at some. Looked at loads at shows but as ive never been interested in them ive not looked with a view to getting one!
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what power would you want to go for Lee as the gearboxes are the weak point in the 4x4's.

will be ok ish at about 330-350 bhp,and thats the ideal power that the cosworths should be.
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Originally Posted by BigErn
2wd Sapph, early dash and light cloth trim. THE only way to have a Sapph IMO
same as mine and moonstone,the best colour
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Originally Posted by dave cos4x4
what power would you want to go for Lee as the gearboxes are the weak point in the 4x4's.

will be ok ish at about 330-350 bhp,and thats the ideal power that the cosworths should be.
Yeah thats around what my White escos was dave and tbh on the road i cant see why you'd want more!
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Originally Posted by Lee Reynolds
Yeah thats around what my White escos was dave and tbh on the road i cant see why you'd want more!
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2wd saffs are great cars, and massive fun in the wet!! The speed difference between 2wd and 4x4 is shocking really, a stg 1 270ish bhp 2wd will keep up, maybe even edge away from a stage 3 4x4.

Whatever car you buy, get a decent rear beam for it! Don't listen to the horror stories of 2wd cars being uncontrollable, just be sensible where you use the power!!
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
The speed difference between 2wd and 4x4 is shocking really, a stg 1 270ish bhp 2wd will keep up, maybe even edge away from a stage 3 4x4.
Yeah then it'll come to a roundabout or a twisty bit in the road and end up wrapped round something

I just can't see that fella a 270 bhp car keeping up with or edging away from a 330 bhp car, also if the road is a bit damp you aint putting the power down from a standing start in a 2wd it will just spin whilst the 4x4 is fucking off down the road


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