155lee

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did you see top gear tonight?if clarkson says its good and can handle the power then thats fact.all the folk sayingh it cant handle the power because its fwd are only guessing,he drove it and loved it so that can be the end of that arguement.

Ryan_3

if he says jump of a cliff, would u?

Pardeep

Still Torque Steered like a Cunt. Although i'm abit baffled by JC. In the Top Gear mag he said he hasn't come across any of the Torque steer that the other Press Mags have been talking about.

Strange Man!!!

Psycho Warren

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according to clarkson, EVO's are uncrashable

Pardeep

WTF is up with the Arches?

pani_k

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Subaru WRX Sti 1.28.2
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MG SV 1.28.6
Porsche 911 Carrera S 1.28.9
Mitsubishi Evo VIII 1.28.9
BMW Alpina Z8 1.29.0
Mercedes CL65 1.29.0
Ford Focus RS 1.29.3
VW Golf W12 1.29.6
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Ford Shelby GT500 1.30.0
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Aston Martin DB7 GT 1.30.4
Golf R32 1.30.4
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Honda NSX Type R 1.31.6
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Taken from TG test track power laps. Proper can't handle its power can it, look at the rest of the fucking cars around it and what power they are pushing!!!

155lee

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no,but he doesnt have probably the best show on tv that gets loads of viewers every week, a monthly magazine, a column in the sun newspaper and get to drive the most exotic cars every week because he talks shite either.

cossieprob

Without the hands on the wheel i would think any car would do that. My 130 gt tdi golf was like that, but dont forget that the rs mk2 has 300bhp, & to minimise the torque steer like that, is ford at its best!!
Anyway who wants a car that drive's itself.

Alan_D

Wasn't torque steering that bad. From a standing start like that there aren't many FWD cars that wouldn't do that.

pani_k

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I bet my focus would do that if I let go of the wheel with only 145bhp/130ft.lbs torque. Can't imagine it not twitching :S

Rich_bloor

what was the new focus rs time against the old focus rs time?

dojj

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that's because he's the worlds 87th most sexiset bloke

dojj

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there used to be a link for all the pwoer lap times, but their new site is a bit shit because i can't find them now

the old focus was about the 1.32.2 mark

jonathon555

you have missed the renault off.

155lee

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didnt count as it was on slicks and had garish wheels!will anybody actually buy that?its not practical,has no creature comforts and can only carry 2 people.it was quicker by a ballhair but i know what car i would have.

jonathon555

R888's are road legal & 1.2 seconds is a long way with 73 Bhp less.

Maybe ford should have thought about the ammount of flab they have lumbered the new RS with, they could have created the ultimate hot hatch. Instead they have created a car that with be surpassed within six months.

Oh well nevermind.

Pardeep

Sorry mate but put those Slicks on the RS and i bet the time would be alot different. Also a light weight version of the RS would make that piece of Tin R26 look slow.

Alan_D

Would rather the RS anyday instead of going without a radio and having a roll cage in a road car! And I'm not a Ford fanboy by any stretch. Think I'd take that 1.2 second loss no probs.

Ginge !

yeah just like them other cars that dont sell,,,,, porsche gt2,,,, gt3rs,,,, m3 csl, ferrari scudaria,,,,, lotus exige,,,,,, caterham..... ect ect ect..

can you see a pattern here

its a VERY cleaver idea imo as its the lower end of the market and there testing it to see what happens

Pardeep

+1

Ginge !

what about restrict the power to 225bhp aswell ????

jonathon555

But it didn't.

You can say that about anything, but at least renault have got the balls to build such stuff & there was a time when Ford did too. But these days 1400kg is just far too much for a hot hatch.

They should have binned half of the junk to save 100kg. Then the car would be well on the money. Or at least offer a lighter version for the track.

Pardeep

Or up the R26 to 300bhp.

and/or put the Interior back in the R26r

pani_k

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So why didn't they use a regular R26? Fully loaded with a proper interior. Only reason they didn't was that it would've got an absolute pasting.

Pardeep

Funny actually as Ford are going to the Ring with the RS with Slicks and are planning to beat the R26r time! Should be a good result with those tyres i'd say.

dojj

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other than the caterham, how many of those buyers will have a fleet of other cars to toy with then?

a rack obsesed car will be bareable for the short journey a few times a year, but not for going to work in, going ot the shops in, going to drop the kids off to school in, just lok at how james may suffered in agony when jezza and hamster were relaxing in their softer versions of fast cars

Pardeep

From Auto Blog

'Pretty soon, it seems like the start of Nürburgring lap time season will take its place on motorsports calendars the same way you find with Formula 1 and NASCAR. The 'Ring season officially began last week, and the title card pitted the 2009 Ford Focus RS against the Renaultsport Megane R26.R. The Ford's numbers are 297 hp and 324 lb-ft; the Renault posts 230 hp and 229 lb.-ft, and the Megane's time stands at 8:16.9 (not 8:12) on its Toyo track-friendly rubber.

For the first round, the detuned 250 hp Focus RS test car managed 8:27 on "standard Continental tires," so Ford is reportedly looking at the full-fat 297 hp car to do around 8:15. Word is if they can get that close, they'll consider adding the Toyo Cup tires to the customer options list, which could subtract at least three seconds from the Focus' time and allow it to take home the 'Ring trophy for hot hatches. Ford will be back at the 'Ring next week to give it a go. Cheating? Perhaps. Pointless? Maybe. Fun for us to watch? Definitely.'

jonathon555

Ford have missed a big trick here, the new focus RS is the only Halo model they currently have. Gone are the days when every model range had an XR or RS range topping model, that is when Ford sold big time numbers at one point one in every four fiesta sold was an XR2 ! That is when they had the mix right & boy could they produce a performance car forthe common man. But now they are relying on such utter junk as the new fiesta mountune to be the Halo model WTF ? The plot has been completely lost, the New focus RS is a fantastic car no doubt, but to they should get back to the one make race series etc

They should raise the bar for others to beat just like they used to with the sierra cosworths etc

Ford have a great heritage that just needs to be recaptured somehow.

dojj

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and how shite is the renault site for not even listing it

jonathon555

R26 is only 1.7 seconds a lap slower than the R26R on silverstone using pilot sports

Rick

The breif was for a family friendly car. The focus has build quality the Renault can only dream of.

Ginge !

renault are really spending on track based customers at the min, they are running there world series but now REALLY advertising it so we all start talking about it,, they got the meganes with the RWD in a series and got a track based megane to test the water,,,,, i recon kids will buy em on daddys credit card as tbh there stripping them out and fitting harsh suspension for years anyway,,,,,, my impreza has fucking hard as fuck coilovers on it and i was using that as a daily drive and i use it for the long journeys too

buzznwood

Apparently can't handle it's power as well as the 4x4 cars sitting at the top of your list, another case of the bean counters ruining what could have been.

dojj

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the r262 has 230 brake
the new r26 has 250 brake
how does that work then?

Retro Al

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The new rs is good car and looks great,but it could have been so so much better rwd or awd,yeah i know it would have cost more but it would have been worth it imo,i mean you wont be able to increase the power like you can a rwd car or awd, could you see this focus running 500bhp through the front wheels? i think not

wide ka

but at 24k it think it was, you can buy a caterham r300, and if your only going to track it then a megane seems pointless?

dovboy

if it was 4wd and between the subaru n evo i would be hapier with it.

nice replacement rs turbo i suppose but no replacement for escos.

MadMac

The Scooby and Evo is still faster, yes they are 10k more, but let's be honest, we have been waiting for a ford that will beat them, and it's still not the one...

An evo 8 is still faster and you can pick one of them up second hand cheaper.

And if you load the RS up with all the goodies, you'll hit Evo and Scooby money easily.

JTECH James

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to me it wouldnt matter if it was 5secs faster than the renault,

i dont like it because its not 4x4 or rwd as a car, its not all about speed, just what i prefer....

i never have and cant see i will ever own a fwd rs, it isnt what they are about, whether clarkson likes it or not

pani_k

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I haven't got a clue about Silverstone mate so I wouldn't know whether 1.7 secs on a lap of Silverstone was good or bad.

Whichever way you cut it though, I still think it's a properly epic car that will be more than capable on UK roads holding its own, playing with the big boys anyway.