So which dump valve then???? :-(
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So which dump valve then???? :-(
Have to have one as I have a T4
what do you reckon??
I was thinking of the greddy type-r/s,
anyone heard that new bailey venturi??
just gutted I cant have chatter
what do you reckon??
I was thinking of the greddy type-r/s,
anyone heard that new bailey venturi??
just gutted I cant have chatter
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Mike Rainbird, Smit, goons
Mike, I dont have ALS, still on L8 ecu
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
Thanks Chris.
think I need to hear some cars with different ones on
Mike, I dont have ALS, still on L8 ecu
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
Thanks Chris.
think I need to hear some cars with different ones on
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naa. considered braking it but then I decided spending 4 times the amount of money its worth on it and still ending up with a shitbox saff was a much better idea
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Mike. I just forgot to mention it to Harvey Just sort of assumed he would do it anyway
Would it be possible to buy a P8 and swap my chip over into it??? then Ahmed could map the ALS on the road???
Would it be possible to buy a P8 and swap my chip over into it??? then Ahmed could map the ALS on the road???
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No it would not. You need to have had it mapped on the dyno with P8 at the time . You just wasted all that money, all for the sake of not buying a P8 ECU for Ł250 (insert dick-head smiley here ).
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Mike. I assumed (que comment "they say assumption is the mother of all fuck ups") Harvey was going to do me P8, dizzyless ignition etc on there and I would just see it in the bill afterwards All he said to me was guaranteed 430bhp and I agreed
I would have happily paid the Ł250 quid extra to get the ecu.
I might as well just break it now
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I didn't realise Harvey was supposed to be able to read your mind - he would have put a P8 on it had you asked him and you could have had dizzyless and everything, it would only have been the price of the ECU, coil pack and leads to do so .
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Yes, I know its partly my fault but mainly yours..
well, thanks Mike. I'm just going to burn the fuckin thing tonight now.
This is why YOU should have done it all for me like I asked you to
well, thanks Mike. I'm just going to burn the fuckin thing tonight now.
This is why YOU should have done it all for me like I asked you to
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Youd a a cock IMO to waste money on some jap "BOV" when they do the same and sound the same as pretty much any other DV, they jus look pretty and cost a lot.
Cant beat the Forge "GrpA" non-piston ones for loudness IMO.
If the DV spring is strong enough and your ALS is good enough then your boost should never go into vac' with it switched on so it wont be an issue.
Cant beat the Forge "GrpA" non-piston ones for loudness IMO.
If the DV spring is strong enough and your ALS is good enough then your boost should never go into vac' with it switched on so it wont be an issue.
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I have a Turbo Smart Supersonic Dump Valve It's a bit lary and going through the Dartford Tunnel on the way to Southend is very interesting. This dump valave is very very loud however Turbo Smart have a whole range from recircling to the Megasonic. They also make Actuators which will give you the rally chatter. I purchased mine from Nitrous Solutions however PTS stock these parts.
I had fitted the part myself however it did not run properly after having my car set up at PTS they had the dump valave giving it plenty.
Visit Turbo Smarts web site for the range of productS.
www.turbosmart.com.au/
You can also here the dump vlaves on the site. Hope this helps
I had fitted the part myself however it did not run properly after having my car set up at PTS they had the dump valave giving it plenty.
Visit Turbo Smarts web site for the range of productS.
www.turbosmart.com.au/
You can also here the dump vlaves on the site. Hope this helps
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Originally Posted by a/rs/e
They also make Actuators which will give you the rally chatter
Turbosmart dumpers are decent tho
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I'm after the one that the skyline in the 2f2f had on it... you know the one I mean, but can I find out what it is? noooooo.
dont even know if that was a dv, could have been wastegate chatter on the normal Skyline
dont even know if that was a dv, could have been wastegate chatter on the normal Skyline
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Mike Rainbird, Smit, goons
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
return to Bergolt high school and learn to read the bold print...fool
Originally Posted by Smit
dunno how the turbo would like it if u ran Anti-lag though...
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Originally Posted by MadMac
I'm after the one that the skyline in the 2f2f had on it... you know the one I mean, but can I find out what it is? noooooo.
dont even know if that was a dv, could have been wastegate chatter on the normal Skyline
dont even know if that was a dv, could have been wastegate chatter on the normal Skyline
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And trust me, HKS DV/BOV sounds same as every other bloody valve, if you hear chatter it IS chatter, its not coming from your bloody dumper...
People think some jap BOVs cause chatter cause, A, they idiots, B, it replaces the factory recirc valve which is usually very efficient, and C, jap BOVs have very strong springs in them (as do most piston dumpers intended for use on cars with airflow meters) so barely opens/operates at all on most cars, so causes chatter like not having a dumper at all does...
People think some jap BOVs cause chatter cause, A, they idiots, B, it replaces the factory recirc valve which is usually very efficient, and C, jap BOVs have very strong springs in them (as do most piston dumpers intended for use on cars with airflow meters) so barely opens/operates at all on most cars, so causes chatter like not having a dumper at all does...
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Originally Posted by Rick
BUT, the Super sequential thing does sound diff from other valves doesnt it? First valve is like a whistle, second when more boost is the traditional tschh
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you can fit it to any engine, inc a rst.
ive heard them plenty tmes, sound like most extra strong springed twin piston dumpvalves do, squeaky/whistly at low boost as hardly opens, normal big woosh at high
ive heard them plenty tmes, sound like most extra strong springed twin piston dumpvalves do, squeaky/whistly at low boost as hardly opens, normal big woosh at high
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Originally Posted by Smit
Originally Posted by JAP CRAP
Mike Rainbird, Smit, goons
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
Smit. The turbo is maram shafted
return to Bergolt high school and learn to read the bold print...fool
Originally Posted by Smit
dunno how the turbo would like it if u ran Anti-lag though...
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AJ, go and refil the oil on your new "mint" ( ) rs turbo, you havnt done it for the last 10 minutes so it must be empty by now
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Who was it that ordered a 'drum' yes i said 'drum' of oil? Not just a couple of litres but shitloads of the stuff!! Hmmm who was it, i cant remember, im sure it'll come to me soon
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OMG. Discussing about noise when it comes to dump valves!? Thats kindergarden stylee.
The dump valve has one function, to evacuate pressurized air in an effective manner. Whats effective then? As fast as possible and as much as possible. They are fitted to avoid backpressure on the impeller, making the "bad" air braking the rotational momentum on it, thus making spool up/lag during, as an example, gear switching less time consuming. The best option would be a valve that was atleast as big in diameter as the pressure piping used, so responsive that it opened instantly whenever throttle movement caused pressure differences before and after butterfly.
Oh, and to your remorse, these valves would just sound "whoosh". You'll hear in time...
The dump valve has one function, to evacuate pressurized air in an effective manner. Whats effective then? As fast as possible and as much as possible. They are fitted to avoid backpressure on the impeller, making the "bad" air braking the rotational momentum on it, thus making spool up/lag during, as an example, gear switching less time consuming. The best option would be a valve that was atleast as big in diameter as the pressure piping used, so responsive that it opened instantly whenever throttle movement caused pressure differences before and after butterfly.
Oh, and to your remorse, these valves would just sound "whoosh". You'll hear in time...
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hexxon,
i'm not convinced that dumping all of the pressured air does make the engine more responsive on a gear change. to my mind, it makes sense to keep some of this volume of air that is contained in the inlet system so that it can be used by the engine when you open the throttle again. by not running a d/v, you acheive this.
and although some of it will escape back through the turbine impeller slowing it down, i believe that this is offset by the faster spool up time, created by the air volume that you kept, being processed when you open the throttle again.
that is the only way that i can explain the difference i feel between having a d/v and not (but that is only on a t3).
i'm not convinced that dumping all of the pressured air does make the engine more responsive on a gear change. to my mind, it makes sense to keep some of this volume of air that is contained in the inlet system so that it can be used by the engine when you open the throttle again. by not running a d/v, you acheive this.
and although some of it will escape back through the turbine impeller slowing it down, i believe that this is offset by the faster spool up time, created by the air volume that you kept, being processed when you open the throttle again.
that is the only way that i can explain the difference i feel between having a d/v and not (but that is only on a t3).