MadMac

watching the news, more people die from this superbug MRSA (or summink) every year than road accidents.

So why not fine nurses and doctors for not washing properly.

How about not cleaning cameras for cleaners that give them £60 and three point and after four offences can't clean at all anymore.

and Why are people waffling on so much about how dangerous cars are if our hospitals kill more people a year

James Raby

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Well said that man!
You see they 'simply don't have the time' you see
Peoples mentality comes into it too

People would be out of a job if nobody got ill (this is not meant to offend) just what you feel like saying sometimes

brad

this is a subject very close to my heart as one of my closest friends mum has this "hospital disease" (claire rayner) it has made her so ill but they cant or havnt done anything about it

DannyC

totally agree with you mate

i watched a program the other day and they've come up with a cure. A machine cerculates gas around the round which destroys it, can't remember the name of the gas tho

we are living in a world with to many jipos tho, how many blokes do you know that wash their hands after they've been to the loo

peteh

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go private then mate

James Raby

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I work in a Supermarket and when using the convienences myself, see alot of this happening (people then go off to eat thier meal that they've just purchased in the cafe!!)

Even staff don't wash thier hands (I'm Health and Safety Rep) so they don't get away with it lightly

DannyC

good on ya james

you see blokes walking straight out of the toilet at the cinema and then holding their birds hand

i couls go on and on about this

swerv

I cant imagine a lot of people can afford to go private , this is why we have a national health service, remember we pay for it!!

Ginge !

wonder what you do for a living



oh and if ya looked after ya self proper then ya wouldnt need to go to hospital to catch the illness

peteh

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yeah but that dosen't cover a smidgen of how much rip off drug companies, intruments companies and like charge us for stuff , they do this can they can, it's the best so that's what people expect, there fore they charge what they like

sorry but you must know who i work for and it really winds me up

James Raby

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being very insensitive today aren't you

Exeter J

Don't be a knob!!

My girlfriend and as such many of my friends are nurses and most of them do their job to the highly professional standard they are trained to - I.e. degree level.

MRSA is mainly spred around and brought into hospitals by visiting relatives who don't wash their hands and treat the hospital as if was a hotel.

Jasesapphy

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There is no excuse for MRSA.

I run 7 departments in a hospital (private), one of my departments is Housekeeping.
With good education of doctors, nurses and all other staff that work in the hospital we have only had one hospital aquired infection in 6 years.

We get patients from other hospitals that have to be isolated because they come in with it. When a patient is admitted swabs are taken from there nose and groin to see if they have any infection.

If they come back clear the isolation is removed if they have the infection then a treatment starts on treating it.

(if you need info on that you will have to ask my misses, shes a sister.)

A lot of hospitals have started putting alcohol gels on the entrance to reduce people brining it in from outside.

MRSA is not nice due to its resistance of Penacilin.

If anyone wants info let me know between me and the misses we know quite a bit as we deal with it everyday.

Biggest cause of MRSA in other hospitals is handwashing (lack of it and technique).

peteh

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top quote , think also most germs are spread cause nurses are so over worked cause nobody wants to do the job, well especially for the shite money they pay them, under 10k a year training.

James Raby

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More precautions need to be put into place then
If they don't wash hands - don't let them in - simple

Ginge !

sorry i was taking the piss


i know who pete works for, hes a nice guy too, he loves his job as a janitor for the hospital


the other bit was a piss take too, ive once caught flu when going to the doctor to book a moody 4 weeks off with fake back pains


now i hope ya get where that comes from now

James Raby

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Yeah, but with Brad posting, would have been nice not to try and be funny wouldn't it

peteh

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so you run, don't actually do any work like we have to , so next time a one of someones relatives hearts stops and they go blue ill say 'sorry let me go wash my hands' doesn't happen mate

Ginge !

sorry good point, i never read his post


brad sorry for the very out of place comment



i usually only read cirtain posts by people, not all of em so the ones i dont know i dont read, hence i made this very bad mistake




still say pete is a nice guy, hope he wash's his hands too as ive shook his hand before , same goes for you james

POPEYE

its my cock and if i dont want to wash my hands i aint gonna

Exeter J

Don't disagree with you there - just that people get the impression that its the fault of the nurses (and people at the coal-face so to speak) when they are doing their best with the time and facilities they have - particularly in a very busy underfunded NHS ward.

I wouldn't do their job for any amount of money.

Jasesapphy

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Peteh

Was not being funny, all nurses e.t.c do an outstanding job and i would never ever knock them for that.

as you are aware cleanliness in hospital is a major issue, especially with contract cleaners who dont give a dam.

I never put down any healthcare professional however sometimes i feel consultants need education

Ginge !

i was gonna type thats why i never shake popeyes hand



as ya always got ya hand down ya trousers, when talking to new people in the pub too

POPEYE

and theres a problem with that

Ginge !

brad

bal
no worries m8 , i sensed the funny side
its a fookin horrid didease tho , the worst thing is , claire went in for life saving surgury after being airlifted from a cruise liner , the surgury went well and she was on the mend then all of a sudden BANG she gets knocked down with this bug
and it took em fookin ages to admit what it was and start treatment aswell

peteh

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yeah totally agree with you, sorry for ranting on, just people getting the upper hand over organisations that help people get's up my nose.

Anyway MRSA is a big problem yes, i sometimes think i have a problem as i'm washing them so much

Ginge !

if ya talking about ya bollocks like pops ya have

peteh

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i meant my hands!

thanks for the support ginge , i have a nice gold wheel in my loft still

St3V3_C

But it would be OK for her to have his cock in her mouth on the way home. How does that work?

Ginge !

i expect it to be clean




thats a good point, bit like sharing a birds drink, ya mates drink but not a gay persons drink


but then who cares as long as YOU are having fun

Wazzzer

I think a lot of people would go private if you could opt out of paying the national insurance. I know I would

Everone is forced to contribute to an out dated hospital system in this country whether thay want to use it or not

Ginge !

that is not the fault of the hospital staff though, i must admit ive been in hospital a few times for very very stupid things ( i dont mean waste there time with a cold ect as the doctors is closed), inthink we have the best people doing the jobs innthe world, now i wont say the same for trainee dentist's though ( i will never forget that as long as i live )



UCH hospital is the best hospital i have ever been to, when i tore a ligament in my leg, i was taking to whittingtion hospital ( 8 hour waiting times ) left there adn got a buss to UCH, yes its that good



also faked our address to allow us to have our baby at UCH, i really think they are the tits


as for the others in charge ya dont see or the one who count the beans ect, aint got a clue about them but the doctors and nurses put some fooking hours in


i respect em alot more than moaning about em




mind i do have a scar on my hand where skin is folded whe i was stiched and the skin over lapped and now its freeking, but at the time the was stitching a vein together , i understand then might have been in a hurry

Fast Guy

My wife is on the infection control team at the local private hospital and they've only ever had one recorded case of MRSA which they are almost 100% certain was brought in by the patient from the outside. (residential home)
I don't disagree that most cases are brought in from the outside by visitors, but only 1 case in something like 50years..go figure
Maybe it helps that in last years infection control audit, she got the hospital 100%, this year only 90something% but they were well down on staff in housekeeping/support services.

Jasesapphy

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FASTGUY

She works for nuffield / bupa or BMI

MadMac

No offence intended there mate, was a kind off of the cuff comment people say when they are wound up about something.

And to be fair, yes medical staff try very hard, and fair play to them.

Wish I could go private, but when £100 of my money is being used for Tax on the NHS, I can't afford to take out a private helth insurance policy to pay for these things.

Fast Guy

Nuffield

Jasesapphy

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Had to be one of them

Chipperx2

If everyone went private, our Health service would end up like America's, whereas if u get shot in the street the first thing the check before your pulse is if you have proper health cover
Before anyone goes mouthing of how bad our system is, go to other countrys and see , eg Australia, America see how u like waiting lists there

Exeter J

Fair play chap - my bad ; just wound me up also - as she (my missus) is now working her ass off on nights - and is working nights over christmas and I know how hard her and her friends work with what they have - and how little she will bring home for it!