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Old 08-05-2009 | 09:37 AM
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hopefully she is living a normal life somewhere fingers crossed like

but i think there hiding something from the press i just dont trust em it aint the wife its the husbund that seems dodgy to me
Old 08-05-2009 | 09:39 AM
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dont trust them fullstop.i still say they had something to do with it somehow.

she's probaly in a sex trade now somewhere in a shitty country where no one knows.
Old 08-05-2009 | 09:47 AM
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What about the sightings of the man carrying a child.

I don't know about your kids but certainly at 4years old if my child was taken out of bed and carried they would almost certainly have woke up, especially if it was a stranger.

The witnesses said that they saw a man carrying a child going past the apartment, there was also sightings about half a mile away.

Now I'm no criminal mastermind but if I'd just abducted a child I'd want to flee the area rather quickly. I wouldn't want to take the chance that the child would wake up and bring attention to the fact that I was trying to abduct them. Why would you try to carry the child away for that distance? Wouldn't you rather have a car close by so you could get away quickly without people seeing you?
Old 08-05-2009 | 09:51 AM
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wasnt maddies hair or blood found in the boot of the rental car at one point?
Old 08-05-2009 | 12:14 PM
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Also, if I had left my Children alone, which I never would, and someone went past carrying a child as I went to check on them. Two and two would come together, surely? Even more so in the middle of the night.

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Old 08-05-2009 | 02:24 PM
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I defo think the parents have something to do with her daugter going missing.
Old 08-05-2009 | 02:25 PM
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IMHO the parents should have been prosecuted for Negligance.
Old 08-05-2009 | 02:28 PM
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they will be on their own personal guilt trip for the rest of their lives and so they should as their neglect has caused the pretty likely death and suffering of their child.
you wouldnt leave your child home alone in the uk never mind in a foreign country.
you never know but i cant see her being found alive after so long.
Old 08-05-2009 | 02:44 PM
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i think theres more to it then there letting on,
Old 08-05-2009 | 03:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
IMHO the parents should have been prosecuted for Negligance.

If they left a dog in a hot car they probably would have been
Old 08-05-2009 | 03:16 PM
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Old 08-05-2009 | 03:19 PM
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Originally Posted by gingerman
i hope for maddies sake she is found one day all well and happy
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If she is ever found.... I doubt very much it will be well and happy, not after all this time.
Sadly id have to agree with Sarah on this one. People very very very rarely kidnap children for them to "just" live a new life somewhere else.

I have my doubts about it being a kidnapping anyway, BUT if she was kidnapped then however horrible it may seem, there is almost certainly abuse of some kind being the motivation and if shes still alive then she will be pretty fucked in the head at the very least.

Personally i think she was dead a long time ago and is in a shallow grave somewhere.

I dont believe she was kidnapped. Peadophiles are not stupid. They are sick in the head, not stupid!!! They will not do something so public likely to cause a media frenzy like with madeliene because it is highly likely to get them caught and put in prison, and most of them DONT want to get caught.

If the sickos in the child sex rings want a white girl then its a sad fact they will get one from eastern europe/russia much easier and with very little risk of getting caught.
Old 08-05-2009 | 04:11 PM
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i try not to leave my kids in a different room for fear of them doing themselves a mischief, let alone leaving the house

leaving them for however long they left them (30-45 minutes depending on who you listen to) is just too risky to comprehend

being that they were in another contry and the ligths were off and they would have had a tipple or 3 is just taking things to the next level

they should have, rightly, been prosecuting for child neglect if nothing else

guilty or not, i know they have lost a child and their children have lost a sister, but it doesn't absolve them of their parental responsibility to have been looking after their kids rather than going down the pub to get pissed with their mates
Old 08-05-2009 | 04:15 PM
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Does anyone know why they weren't prosecuted?
Old 08-05-2009 | 04:22 PM
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I dont know!! Guess it depends on how modern portugals child neglect laws are, plus being foriegners might make sentancing pointless even if found guilty.
Old 08-05-2009 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by **Claire**
Does anyone know why they weren't prosecuted?
as a hunch, maybe they could afford to pay someone to get the british press on their side
Old 08-05-2009 | 06:51 PM
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max clifford would be involved somewhere id guess.
Old 08-05-2009 | 07:26 PM
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Yep no way If I had kids would I leave them on their own,and no parents I know would either
Old 08-05-2009 | 07:51 PM
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the dude on the telly prog who made up the foto of her at 6 said so far they had found 90 odd kids all of em been missing over 2 years so theres always hope

the bitch for me would be these screwloose loons who keep people in basements and wooden boxes n shit for years, maybe even their whole lives- i bet it goes on more than you'd ever imagine, and yeah i'd like a slave but you just can get away with that these days huh

fuck being in 1 room for 10 years cos some mad cunt wont let you out
Old 08-05-2009 | 10:21 PM
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Theres just summit not right about her, watched that documentary last night and she has just handled it too well,never mind 2 yrs you would NEVER get over ya child being kidnapped in those awful circumstances, and for the life of me I just cant understand at what point it seemed logical to leave two 1 yr olds and a 3 yr old in a hotel room in Portugal when they were 5 minutes up the road,its just beyond me that one.Something not right about it at all.
Old 08-05-2009 | 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by **Claire**
Does anyone know why they weren't prosecuted?
Could be to do with them being in a different Country.

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Old 09-05-2009 | 01:46 AM
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cant trust those parents, the mother is like a snake
Old 09-05-2009 | 02:13 AM
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There were 2 other kids in the room with her? ..I didn't know this.

Have the two other kids given statements as to what happened to Madeline?
Old 09-05-2009 | 02:30 AM
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Originally Posted by fiend
There were 2 other kids in the room with her? ..I didn't know this.

Have the two other kids given statements as to what happened to Madeline?
They were under the age of 2 at the time IIRC
Old 09-05-2009 | 02:32 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
They were under the age of 2 at the time IIRC
Ahh ok, the whole thing is very odd.
Old 09-05-2009 | 02:33 AM
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Originally Posted by fiend
There were 2 other kids in the room with her? ..I didn't know this.

Have the two other kids given statements as to what happened to Madeline?

the police struggled to get an answer from 2 one year olds
Old 09-05-2009 | 04:10 AM
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fkn shame on madelinthe world is full off sick bastardshow could anyone hurt a fkn kidi hope she is ok the police have done a great job................yeah right
Old 09-05-2009 | 07:13 AM
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Originally Posted by **Claire**
Does anyone know why they weren't prosecuted?
What purpose would that serve? So they can be imprisoned and put their two other kids into care? Whatever actually happened it's punishment enough loosing your little girl!

I find the whole saga really harassing as I've got a little girl the same age.
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I cant watch them two as they make my blood boil, as any parent with young kids know going abroad with young kids is hard work and you have to make sacrifices but not those 2 twats.

Typical upperclass attitude get the kids to bed and lets go enjoy ourselves any decent parent would have been in the apartment having a drink but watching the kids, not them lets go out for a meal and check on them every so often, i feel sorry for the other kids with fuckwit parents like that
Old 09-05-2009 | 07:43 PM
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Originally Posted by gaz s1
Typical upperclass attitude get the kids to bed and lets go enjoy ourselves
TBH the problem is bigger in the working/lower classes where the sheer numbers causes the issues. Look at the CHAV culture, culture of broken familys, benefit scroungers, teen pregnancy rates etc etc etc and you will find by raw numbers, the rich people neglecting kids is FAR outnumbered by other social groups doing so. Such behaviours are not restricted to a class BUT there is clear proof that social/economic deprivation IS linked to increased numbers of neglect, crime, etc etc etc etc etc

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the world is full off sick bastardshow could anyone hurt a fkn kid
Youve answered your own question there?? the world does have lots of sick bastards in it. What i think you meant is YOU cant understand how anyone can hurt a kid.
Old 09-05-2009 | 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
What purpose would that serve? So they can be imprisoned and put their two other kids into care? Whatever actually happened it's punishment enough loosing your little girl!

I find the whole saga really harassing as I've got a little girl the same age.
would care possibly be less risky than living with parents that abandon their kids abroad?
or perhaps to teach the parents a lesson like all punishments meant to?
can i do what i want without fear of prosecution because i also have a little boy and girl?
Old 09-05-2009 | 08:02 PM
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Yeah but remember what sane parent 'sedates' there children to keep them asleep?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
would care possibly be less risky than living with parents that abandon their kids abroad?
or perhaps to teach the parents a lesson like all punishments meant to?
can i do what i want without fear of prosecution because i also have a little boy and girl?
I'm not for a second defending them as I think what they did was utterly negligant, but I don't think for a second that the other kids are in the slightest bit 'at risk' so care would definitely not be the answer. They're also serving a sentence far far worse than life imprisonment!
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TBH care would probably fuck them up more!! Care hasnt got the best reputation these days!!!
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its a horrible thing that happened but well never know the true story. i would never leave my daughter alone for even 5 mins while i went out. also if there wasnt such publicity and sympathy for them, surely they must be charged with neglect? maybe im being overly paranoid as a teen parent but if my fiancee and me went to the pub for the night and left our child alone and we were found out social services would be involved, the police, and our daughter would be put into care. other thing that winds me up is that they are both doctors, in a position to help others and give advice yet they dont have the sense to look after their own daughter? someone needs to look at that
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I think one of the parents killed her by accident, but the circumstances would have ment the parent would end up in prison, So they hid the body.
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i dont believe your average mr and mrs joe public could accidentally kill their child and instead of phoning an ambulance/police etc they hatch a plot on the spur of the moment to cover it up,and cover it up so well theyve got away with it especially since neither have cracked by now, the non guilty party would have by now i think.
who knows for sure though?
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
i dont believe your average mr and mrs joe public could accidentally kill their child and instead of phoning an ambulance/police etc they hatch a plot on the spur of the moment to cover it up,and cover it up so well theyve got away with it especially since neither have cracked by now, the non guilty party would have by now i think.
who knows for sure though?
What if they drugged her, like what people think, what if the dropped her?
You dont know whow people react when they panic.
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