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Old 07-12-2004, 01:55 AM
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fookin hell stu u still awake mate
Old 07-12-2004, 02:19 AM
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Kinda....
Had my tea about 7 and fell asleep, and ive just awoken
Old 07-12-2004, 06:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Rs Gus
WHY NOT DONATE £20 EACH TO ME SO I CAN BUY A FFD 7SPEED GEARBOX
i seem to remember we went through this donating thing with Jim months ago and it turned to shit. we all work to pay for our cars, and they break....thats life. look at Daves (YUM) he seems to break parts for a hobby

be interested to know what the failure was anyway, build or setup related?
Old 07-12-2004, 07:29 AM
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Originally Posted by ballin
Originally Posted by Rs Gus
WHY NOT DONATE £20 EACH TO ME SO I CAN BUY A FFD 7SPEED GEARBOX
i seem to remember we went through this donating thing with Jim months ago and it turned to shit. we all work to pay for our cars, and they break....thats life. look at Daves (YUM) he seems to break parts for a hobby

be interested to know what the failure was anyway, build or setup related?
With all due respect we also all work very hard to get what little money we each have and as such we also earn the right to decide what we want to do with it when we have it.. thats life.

I understand many people wont be interested in this "giving away money to the unlucky" concept, but thats fine, we all respect your decision and your views will be noted by your lack of reply.

In other words, any negative bollox on this post will simply be deleted from now onwards. So expect it and dont complain.
Old 07-12-2004, 07:34 AM
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Tis shit news tone!
Old 07-12-2004, 07:37 AM
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Its a shame this has happened


Originally Posted by ballin
be interested to know what the failure was anyway, build or setup related?
Old 07-12-2004, 07:39 AM
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really gutted for you tony ,

without getting shot down in flames and not meaning to offend anyone.

does the engine not have any warranty?????
Old 07-12-2004, 07:57 AM
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What plus it running then?
Old 07-12-2004, 07:57 AM
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gutted for you tony. I know how it feels. God knows how much I've poured in over the years. Count me in for £20.

However I wouldn't blame you if you did brake it. It's a lovely car and would be a real shame but I almost wish I had done on mine so long ago. I certainly would have been a LOT better off financially. Sometimes it is just better to cut your losses but then thats thinking with your head rather than your heart, which I certainly didn't do!
Old 07-12-2004, 08:08 AM
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Im with Spiky on this! how old was the engine!?
Old 07-12-2004, 08:10 AM
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Score from me Tone, just wish I could do more for ya m8

Although, I do have an idea
Old 07-12-2004, 08:15 AM
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gutted for ya mate
Old 07-12-2004, 09:10 AM
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Absolutely gutted for you Tony - you know how I think you have the best RS Turbo out there..........

I'm not going to go on about charity threads, as I think I made my feelings on the subject perfectly clear last time. Having watched the making of the Band Aid single last night, I know where my £20 would be going.................

However, best of luck in getting her sorted, and I hope you don't break it.....
Old 07-12-2004, 09:29 AM
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ill happily donate £20 if a rebuild or whatever is to go ahead.
(just hope people will do the same when i melt my engine! )
Old 07-12-2004, 09:30 AM
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OK guys. BIG BIG thanks to those that have said that they will donate.

I have an expensive car habit too, but that doesn't stop me feeling for Tony as I know exactly what this meant to him.

I totally understand those that don't want to and that have their own feelings.

I aren't just suggesting money, obviously we will probably be looking for a donor engine and one-or-two other bits, depending on what is found when it is stripped. Those findings will be discussed between me and Tony and left totally up to him as to what he discloses.

He is a VERY good friend and I just want to help ease the pain.

As for warranty, as it was suggested earlier, their is no warranty on an engine that runs 2 Bar of boost. Tony understood that.
Old 07-12-2004, 09:34 AM
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their is no warranty on an engine that runs 2 Bar of boost
Old 07-12-2004, 09:56 AM
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So do we know what actully happend? And why?

I feel for Tony. It would be a great shame to break such a new ikon of the Performance Ford world!

Dave
Old 07-12-2004, 10:01 AM
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Gutted for Tone, really hope he decides to not break the car....
Old 07-12-2004, 10:07 AM
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Really and truly gutted for you mate.

If there is anything I can do or get for you just drop me a line.

Alex
Old 07-12-2004, 10:55 AM
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Gutted for you Tony. Car looked so sweet at the Southern PF meet

Don't break her though. As disheartening as it is these things happen and are a risk that we all take whether going for it at a day like Brunters, a track day or just chasing down that jap crap.

I've been there myself when I holed a piston. I really thought the car was dead and she was a goner. I couldn't bring myself to part with something that I'd had for 8 years so I dug deep and bit the bullet and a new engine was built up.

I really really hope you get it sorted mate
Old 07-12-2004, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by RichardPON
Absolutely gutted for you Tony - you know how I think you have the best RS Turbo out there..........

I'm not going to go on about charity threads, as I think I made my feelings on the subject perfectly clear last time. Having watched the making of the Band Aid single last night, I know where my £20 would be going.................

However, best of luck in getting her sorted, and I hope you don't break it.....
Ditto. Sad shame tho. Dont break it dude.
Old 07-12-2004, 11:47 AM
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just read this news, really gutted for tony as i know how much hard work has gone on with this! I havent been around much boys , but ill be catching up soom, so if theres anything you need or any help you could do with, you have my number.

ive always slated these kind of donation posts, but when its a friend its hard to stick to your guns so not to be called a hypocrite...

but if you do buy anything and the bill gets accidentally sent to me to help out with.... then so be it if you get what im saying

tone, gimme a bell when ur free
Old 07-12-2004, 11:54 AM
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Sorry to read about this tone,

I've just been through something similar, car off the road for 8 months sorting out heaps of stuff (including all the work to the new intercooler and bumper) and spent a good few grand on it only to blow up my 4000 mile old block on its first run proper run.

Hadnt spent quite the same as tony but I can imagine how he's feeling right now, Dig deeper or call it a day.
Old 07-12-2004, 11:55 AM
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Fair Play Dave..
Old 07-12-2004, 12:28 PM
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isnt this the 2nd time this has happened??

cant imagine how gutted he must be right now.

not sure of the full spec - only been keeping up to speed with the superb restoration of the shell etc


good luck with it tony, keep your heart in it! theres a good few months before the proper stuff starts next year!! plenty of time to spread the costs out before the season.

gotta say for davescos as ive read before what you put about these type of threads!! although... i dunno why but i keep thinking errors account.. rogue trader...
Old 07-12-2004, 12:33 PM
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Tone you know what everyou do its because you feel its the right thing to do and car is already something special and will be remembered for that alone whatever you decide to do.

I can see both sides of the coin, the arguement to break it and the arguement to keep it because you have come so far with the car.

What you got to think about is what would you do if you no longer had the car.

You know if you decide to keep it im only a phone call away if you need anything (travling to or from norfolk etc)
Old 07-12-2004, 12:35 PM
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Well Gutted for Tony, But as said if its a new engine and a failuer due to something wrong with it then warrenty?

As for donating sorry but i think a lot of people being in this shoes and not a dig or anything but what makes Tony special? Imo it somthing he needs to sort out himself Other than that everyone give him a hand but with funds concernd it has to rest with Tony.

Is was in same situation Skint and cossie motor went after spending Thousands on the car. But i had to make sacrafices and get it fixed. Though still trying to work out if that was a good things

Know whta Tony is thinking though Cut his losses as after all the times/effort its still not right or has he gone to deep.

If it was me personally knowing what i know now break it
Old 07-12-2004, 12:47 PM
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why is the option break or replace?

few others have said about putting a less serious engine in?

what you looking at for an average replacement kinda engine?

most bits should be salvagable shouldnt they?

think it might of been rick that suggested potential things to replace - I woulda thought that reasonable...

because even if he breaks its - it wont be any sort of return against what he's paid for the car... he's built it. not bought it to break like most cars that get damaged have.
like andy says he'd have to think what else he is going to do if he does cut his losses.
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i think tonys whole view was to have one of the quickest rst's proven

imo, no point rebuilding to a lower spec when the car is a;ready pretty much 100% full on top spec


hopefully its just a bottom end rebuild and no major damage, if so.. game on surley
Old 07-12-2004, 12:58 PM
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anyone got brief summary of engine spec or is it secret squirrel ssssh special secret??? lol
Old 07-12-2004, 01:03 PM
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Sorry to hear about the car Tony, cant say more than can be said already. Hopefully will be relatively easy to sort.
Old 07-12-2004, 01:08 PM
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I have a really good condition MFI head and its all yours totally free Tony if you want it and if you have damaged the head at all on yours.

Is totally standard and in A1 condition (bare with no valves, cam etc though)

Matt.
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Originally Posted by zvhturbo
I have a really good condition MFI head and its all yours totally free Tony if you want it and if you have damaged the head at all on yours.

Is totally standard and in A1 condition (bare with no valves, cam etc though)

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Old 07-12-2004, 01:13 PM
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i got a set of almost new valves for the head too.. if ya need em.
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This car's been a labour of love for TT

Love sometimes kicks you in the bollocks... and that hurts

Gotta do what he feels is right - but take your time and no rash decisions eh TT

Tony
Old 07-12-2004, 01:52 PM
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Gutted for you Tony......

Very bad news about no warranty Obviously though APT will rebuild and map FOC with you just paying for parts...thats the least considering its Christian doin the appeal ..Count me in for £20 in this particular case you deserve it mate.
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As racers say:

There is no warranty on race parts!

Sorry guys but if you want the best you have to pay for it and take the risk that comes FOC with it!!!

alex
Old 07-12-2004, 02:17 PM
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Totally agree, although depends on what caused the failure completely.


Originally Posted by J871yhk
As racers say:

There is no warranty on race parts!

Sorry guys but if you want the best you have to pay for it and take the risk that comes FOC with it!!!

alex
Old 07-12-2004, 02:17 PM
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Sparkplug fell apart didn't it??
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Your right no warranty on race parts...although i thought SCS warrantied there 500bhp engines??? ....but never the less most buliders/mappers would help out on an engine that blew with so little miles surely?...As i would say the tuner would have not mapped a car to run 2 bar boost if it could pop so soon surely?...But hey i guess i want too much out of life ..In no way do i blame APT as race cars are shite in reliability but i wouldbe surprised if a company wouldnt offer help especially as they are such good mates....so cancel this reply as its obvious they would.


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