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Old 22-04-2009, 08:58 PM
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I cant believe thats gcse level, bit tricky.
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Originally Posted by DanW@FastFord
Christ, that totally re-affirms why I hate maths. What possible use is that stuff in the real world? Is there any time when you'd actually need to do something like that? (Serious question!)
If you chose the proffession of.....

maths Teacher

Otherwise, I see no reason.

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Old 22-04-2009, 09:02 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-Leigh
If you chose the proffession of.....

maths Teacher

Otherwise, I see no reason.
Exactly. That's why I kinda gave up on Maths at GCSE level, it all seemed so pointless.
Old 22-04-2009, 10:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RS-Leigh
Thanks for your input Luke, you are clearly as good at maths as you are at launching your car of the line

Leigh

Il let you have that one.......
Old 22-04-2009, 10:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Luca
Il let you have that one.......
luke ..
Old 23-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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Originally Posted by RS-Leigh
How do you jump to this..

First find dy/dx = 5000-1250x

????

Thanks

leigh
To differentiate it you times the power of x by the coefficient (the number in front of it) then reduce the power of x by 1.

So 625x^2 times the power by the coefficient (625 x 2 = 1250) and then reduce the power by one to get 1250x

Same thing with the first term 5000x^1 (5000 x 1 = 5000) and reduce the power so x disappears.


I dont know how the hell this is on a gcse paper tho, I did it a few years ago and you only did this sort of thing at AS-level.
Old 23-04-2009, 10:50 AM
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If that question was on a GCSE paper, then fuck knows how anyone can say GCSE's are getting easier, that was A level stuff when I did maths!
Old 23-04-2009, 10:58 AM
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Partial Differentiation was A level when I did it too!
Old 23-04-2009, 03:50 PM
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Originally Posted by christophe
To differentiate it you times the power of x by the coefficient (the number in front of it) then reduce the power of x by 1.

So 625x^2 times the power by the coefficient (625 x 2 = 1250) and then reduce the power by one to get 1250x

Same thing with the first term 5000x^1 (5000 x 1 = 5000) and reduce the power so x disappears.


I dont know how the hell this is on a gcse paper tho, I did it a few years ago and you only did this sort of thing at AS-level.

So I was right then?
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Old 23-04-2009, 04:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
So I was right then?
Rich
I think so, by my reconing the turning point is at x = 4 y = 10,000
Old 23-04-2009, 04:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Drakey
Y = 5000x – 625xsquared

First dy/dx = 0
So divide both side by x

'y/x = (5000x / x) – (625x2/x) = 0'

cancel the x’s out
0 = 5000 – 625x
That equation doesn't equal 0 its only the differentiated equation (5000 - 1250x) at the turning points that can equals 0, not the original one.
Old 23-04-2009, 06:10 PM
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well i did my GCSE's last year (got an A but not an A* due to my courseowrk being about an E) and that is not anything that we did/are doing this year in year 11
Old 23-04-2009, 07:35 PM
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Its from the following paper...

London Mathematics IGCSE
Mathematics
paper 3H
Higher Tier
Monday 6 November 2006 - morning

I was surprised as well.

She is back tonight for more revision so standby for a new question if they struggle

Thanks

Leigh
Old 23-04-2009, 11:37 PM
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So did you go with x = 4, y = 10000 ?
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Old 24-04-2009, 10:06 AM
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Dividing both sides by x etc is wrong - the first answer is correct. Google 'differentiation'. General form is:

if y = ax^b
then dy/dx = (ab)x^(b-1), for each term

so if y= 1x + 1x^2 + 2x^3 + 3x^4
dy/dx = (1x1)x^(1-1) + (2x1)x^(2-1) + (3x2)x^(3-1) + (3x4)x^(4-1)
= 1x^0 + 2x^1 + 6x^2 + 12x^3
= 1 + 2x + 6x^2 + 12x^3

does that make sense?
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
So did you go with x = 4, y = 10000 ?
Rich

We went with x=8 y=o

Looks like it was wrong, she has double maths today so should find out.

Her exam is in 3 weeks and she has still not been tought everything

Regards

Leigh
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