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22-04-2009, 11:00 AM
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ICE advice please...
Hey guys...Can any one give me some advice regarding some speakers etc for my car?
I only want some thing cheap and chearfull really....
Head Unit
6X9s
Some small speakers for the front
An Amp
& a Sub
Like i say, just wondered what i should be looking to pay for a cheap setup....
Oh and any stereo boffins.... Is this deal worth it?
http://www.icebuyer.co.uk/package-de...-c-66_876.html
Cheers lads!
Olie
22-04-2009, 11:15 AM
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Billy bargain for a cheap and cheerful setup that will have sound clarity and punch too.
Only problem you will have is that everything will rattle in an old ford so best get the dynomat out and sort it out
Only problem you will have is that everything will rattle in an old ford so best get the dynomat out and sort it out
22-04-2009, 11:20 AM
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Cheers Graceland!
So you think that will suit what im after?
Hahaha, the cars so basic mate... theres nothing to rattle lol.
Not even a glove box...
Na i know what your saying though dude, will i need a shit load fof dynomat?
Olie
So you think that will suit what im after?
Hahaha, the cars so basic mate... theres nothing to rattle lol.
Not even a glove box...
Na i know what your saying though dude, will i need a shit load fof dynomat?
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22-04-2009, 11:28 AM
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looks good for a cheap and cheerfull install but by the looks of it that dosent include cabling, you can pick amp wiring kits on ebay cheap then just get some half decent speaker cable
22-04-2009, 11:32 AM
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That link is mega cheap, I would never get budges speakers again tho, i have been through so many subs and speakers etc etc i have now found the std speakers plus a sub sounds just as good! Except in your case the std speakers will be shit, get it and replace it with good stuff when it breaks!
22-04-2009, 11:33 AM
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Well i think the car has some JL 10cm's up front allready.
Why do you say that about the 6x9s? I thought they were the essential ones haha
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22-04-2009, 11:34 AM
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That link is mega cheap, I would never get budges speakers again tho, i have been through so many subs and speakers etc etc i have now found the std speakers plus a sub sounds just as good! Except in your case the std speakers will be shit, get it and replace it with good stuff when it breaks!
Cheers mate,
Im presuming you mean thats a good deal lol?
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22-04-2009, 11:45 AM
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Or what do you guys think to this?
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro..._id/10252.html
I do prefer the sony head unit!
Olie
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro..._id/10252.html
I do prefer the sony head unit!
Olie
22-04-2009, 11:51 AM
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I dunno... its a slow project im doing while i pass my test lol... so no real strict budget.
Im just working on the theory that a tidy looking mk2 will end up getting stolen so i dont want to throw silly money at it haha
Why you ask? Something in mind mate?
Olie
Im just working on the theory that a tidy looking mk2 will end up getting stolen so i dont want to throw silly money at it haha
Why you ask? Something in mind mate?
Olie
22-04-2009, 11:54 AM
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Haha, well i do, its just 400 quid is almost what i paid for the car haha
And for that i could nearly afford my coilovers lol
So probably a bit less thatn that to be fair mate
And for that i could nearly afford my coilovers lol
So probably a bit less thatn that to be fair mate
22-04-2009, 12:03 PM
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6x9s are unnecessary when you run components and a sub. My advice to anyone wanting to run a sub is don't even think about 6x9s and get a decent set of components and a decent enough sub all amped and it will be crystal clear. 6x9s are best off by themselves as they are designed to play most frequencies so do not perform as well as a set of components that do your mid range and highs and then you have your sub for the low frequencies. Best all round setup= components, sub, amp.
22-04-2009, 12:06 PM
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6x9s are unnecessary when you run components and a sub. My advice to anyone wanting to run a sub is don't even think about 6x9s and get a decent set of components and a decent enough sub all amped and it will be crystal clear. 6x9s are best off by themselves as they are designed to play most frequencies so do not perform as well as a set of components that do your mid range and highs and then you have your sub for the low frequencies. Best all round setup= components, sub, amp.
Cheers Pani_k!
Do you think i should still mount some components on the rear shelf just for the surround sound styles?
How does
10cm in the front doors
13cm on the rear shelf
Amp and sub in the boot
Does that sound like a plan?
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22-04-2009, 12:12 PM
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Cheers mate!
I think if they are just small speakers the normal shelf will hold them wont it?
Is there any down sides to having the 6x9s or do i just not necaseraly need them?
I think if they are just small speakers the normal shelf will hold them wont it?
Is there any down sides to having the 6x9s or do i just not necaseraly need them?
22-04-2009, 12:34 PM
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I get you Pani_k... Cheers mate!
What do you think to this?
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro..._id/10252.html
What do you think to this?
http://caraudiosecurity.com/shop/pro..._id/10252.html
22-04-2009, 12:40 PM
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To be fair mate it has been a long time since I was proper into my ICE and don't know all the new stuff that other people may be more clued up with. I will say don't go for a sub with built in amp. Get separate components even though it may work out more expensive and try stick to one brand. All my gear for example is all Pioneer. Really not in a good position personally to advise on exactly what to get I'll leave that to others that are more in tune (excuse the pun) with this sort of thing. If you want I can give you the contact details of someone I know who install and sells car audio equipment he is based in north london.
22-04-2009, 12:48 PM
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To be fair mate it has been a long time since I was proper into my ICE and don't know all the new stuff that other people may be more clued up with. I will say don't go for a sub with built in amp. Get separate components even though it may work out more expensive and try stick to one brand. All my gear for example is all Pioneer. Really not in a good position personally to advise on exactly what to get I'll leave that to others that are more in tune (excuse the pun) with this sort of thing. If you want I can give you the contact details of someone I know who install and sells car audio equipment he is based in north london.
Thanks alot for the advice mate, dont worry about that number as im a bit far away (Wolverhampton).... BUt cheers for the offer
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22-04-2009, 12:50 PM
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Haha, ill have a look for some deals on vibe stuff then mike!
Do you reckomend any where in wolves to have a butchers?
I only know of halfords and Bass Junkies haha
(Saw your car in Porformance Ford the other day mate, looking good chap
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22-04-2009, 12:54 PM
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Cheers!
I've got the vast majority of my VIBE stuff off eBay shops in the past.
I've bought plenty of bits and pieces from Bass Junkies in the past. Good shop, nice and convenient, but tends to cost a bit more.
There was a little ICE shop near Forbidden Planet that was quite good, but it didn't last long
I've got the vast majority of my VIBE stuff off eBay shops in the past.
I've bought plenty of bits and pieces from Bass Junkies in the past. Good shop, nice and convenient, but tends to cost a bit more.
There was a little ICE shop near Forbidden Planet that was quite good, but it didn't last long
22-04-2009, 01:07 PM
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No problem Mike!
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/produc...&pcode=ICESP01
What do you think of that?
Do you rate xplod at all mate?
Olie
http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/produc...&pcode=ICESP01
What do you think of that?
Do you rate xplod at all mate?
Olie
22-04-2009, 01:15 PM
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Cool cool, Cheers mate
Just to clear up...
Ive already got some JL 10cm speakers in the front... Will i need anything in the back? like some 13cm vibes?
Will probs go for that and a sony head unit then mate!
Cheers mike
Just to clear up...
Ive already got some JL 10cm speakers in the front... Will i need anything in the back? like some 13cm vibes?
Will probs go for that and a sony head unit then mate!
Cheers mike
22-04-2009, 02:02 PM
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Love the advice on this , lol
1- what sort of sound are you after ?
2- is quality more important than quantity ?(do you want a nice rich sound or do you just want to play it loud?)
3-what sort of music do prefer listening to when in the car ?
4-have you ever fitted a car audio system before?
5-do you have any idea what the fuck im talking about ? lol
1- what sort of sound are you after ?
2- is quality more important than quantity ?(do you want a nice rich sound or do you just want to play it loud?)
3-what sort of music do prefer listening to when in the car ?
4-have you ever fitted a car audio system before?
5-do you have any idea what the fuck im talking about ? lol
22-04-2009, 02:14 PM
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Don't put any speakers in the standard parcel shelf mate!
6x9s supply a full range sound, so if you've not got a sub, they're ok for providing a bit of bass, but if you're going for a small sub the 6x9s become pointless (and they'll compete with the sub). You could add some rear speakers (in the quarter panels) for a bit of rear fill, but there's not much point if you're front end's decent.
The installation is as important (if not more important) than the actual components though, so don't get all giddy and just sling it in the car. Also make sure you run the power cables away from the actual speaker cables when you wire it up as you'll get interference.
6x9s supply a full range sound, so if you've not got a sub, they're ok for providing a bit of bass, but if you're going for a small sub the 6x9s become pointless (and they'll compete with the sub). You could add some rear speakers (in the quarter panels) for a bit of rear fill, but there's not much point if you're front end's decent.
The installation is as important (if not more important) than the actual components though, so don't get all giddy and just sling it in the car. Also make sure you run the power cables away from the actual speaker cables when you wire it up as you'll get interference.
22-04-2009, 02:18 PM
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Lol @ Brad
Before i start, im no genius on the subject haha
1 I Dont know what sound im after, what kind of sounds are there?
2 To be honest, I guess quality is more important although not to the point that i want to spend my cars valuation on speakers!
3 I have a very varied music taste... Hip Hop, Drum and Bass, Dub, Rock, Ska, Chill out, all sorts mate!
4 No ive never fitted a car audio system before, but i have fitted a few surround sound home kits etc... But no, not car audio
5 I have a rough idea what your talking about, but as i say, im not clued up, hence me asking for advice! And most of the numbers from stereo specs mean vertually nothing to me!
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Before i start, im no genius on the subject haha
1 I Dont know what sound im after, what kind of sounds are there?
2 To be honest, I guess quality is more important although not to the point that i want to spend my cars valuation on speakers!
3 I have a very varied music taste... Hip Hop, Drum and Bass, Dub, Rock, Ska, Chill out, all sorts mate!
4 No ive never fitted a car audio system before, but i have fitted a few surround sound home kits etc... But no, not car audio
5 I have a rough idea what your talking about, but as i say, im not clued up, hence me asking for advice! And most of the numbers from stereo specs mean vertually nothing to me!
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22-04-2009, 02:22 PM
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Don't put any speakers in the standard parcel shelf mate!
6x9s supply a full range sound, so if you've not got a sub, they're ok for providing a bit of bass, but if you're going for a small sub the 6x9s become pointless (and they'll compete with the sub). You could add some rear speakers (in the quarter panels) for a bit of rear fill, but there's not much point if you're front end's decent.
The installation is as important (if not more important) than the actual components though, so don't get all giddy and just sling it in the car. Also make sure you run the power cables away from the actual speaker cables when you wire it up as you'll get interference.
6x9s supply a full range sound, so if you've not got a sub, they're ok for providing a bit of bass, but if you're going for a small sub the 6x9s become pointless (and they'll compete with the sub). You could add some rear speakers (in the quarter panels) for a bit of rear fill, but there's not much point if you're front end's decent.
The installation is as important (if not more important) than the actual components though, so don't get all giddy and just sling it in the car. Also make sure you run the power cables away from the actual speaker cables when you wire it up as you'll get interference.
Im waiting to hear back from a bloke on xr2.com about a parcel shelf he has...
Its a standard mk2 shelf, with like a mdf hinged shelf underneath? Would that be any good or am i best just having a sub in the boot, standard shelf with no speakers, and like you say, speakers in the quarter panels?
On that subject, is there pods i can buy to do that job? Or would i have to make them?
Cheers for the help guys
Olie
22-04-2009, 02:24 PM
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One thing to be aware of is that you shouldn't go off the quoted power figures - Many (especially cheaper) stuff tries to wow you with 500W+ figures, but in reality that's often the 'peek' figure which means fuck all, the 'RMS' figure is more representative, but still is not an accurate reflection of how good the product is.
22-04-2009, 02:28 PM
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One thing to be aware of is that you shouldn't go off the quoted power figures - Many (especially cheaper) stuff tries to wow you with 500W+ figures, but in reality that's often the 'peek' figure which means fuck all, the 'RMS' figure is more representative, but still is not an accurate reflection of how good the product is.
Cheers Dan
Ive noticed that, its a bit deceptive haha
1200w!!!!!!
But rms its 300w
22-04-2009, 02:29 PM
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Cheers Dan!
Im waiting to hear back from a bloke on xr2.com about a parcel shelf he has...
Its a standard mk2 shelf, with like a mdf hinged shelf underneath? Would that be any good or am i best just having a sub in the boot, standard shelf with no speakers, and like you say, speakers in the quarter panels?
On that subject, is there pods i can buy to do that job? Or would i have to make them?
Im waiting to hear back from a bloke on xr2.com about a parcel shelf he has...
Its a standard mk2 shelf, with like a mdf hinged shelf underneath? Would that be any good or am i best just having a sub in the boot, standard shelf with no speakers, and like you say, speakers in the quarter panels?
On that subject, is there pods i can buy to do that job? Or would i have to make them?
Save the cash you were going to spend on the rear speakers and get better front ones. The trick IMHO is to make sure everything's amped!
Autoleads www.autoleads.co.uk may have a suitable pod, or just put some decent quality ones in the standard positions.
22-04-2009, 02:31 PM
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I wouldn't bother about the shelf, partly because you don't need them, and also because they're in the perfect spot for a thief to see them and have them away!
Save the cash you were going to spend on the rear speakers and get better front ones. The trick IMHO is to make sure everything's amped!
Autoleads www.autoleads.co.uk may have a suitable pod, or just put some decent quality ones in the standard positions.
Save the cash you were going to spend on the rear speakers and get better front ones. The trick IMHO is to make sure everything's amped!
Autoleads www.autoleads.co.uk may have a suitable pod, or just put some decent quality ones in the standard positions.
Cheers Dan
Yeah, thieves is what im worried about... Being a B reg mk2 fez its got fewk all protection!