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Old 10-04-2009, 07:32 PM
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So standard they are 260aw , a chip would give what ,10-14bhp? de cat 5-10? cam ?

Just wondering if the rr operator has made a mistake and doesnt want to correct himself for fear of being seen as a fucktard , thats one hell of a trans loss dude . i dont normally get involved with all this techy stuff as im not knowledgable enough but it does seem a bit odd compared to other stuff i have read .

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Originally Posted by dojj
so if the normal wheel figure for the motor is aorudn the 260 mark then he's got a normal car

i can't see why everyone is up in arms about it other than the owner who thinks it's made 350 odd
Because it won't sink in.
Old 10-04-2009, 08:24 PM
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is it a standard car though? perhaps a previous owner has done some work to it?
Old 10-04-2009, 08:35 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
is it a standard car though? perhaps a previous owner has done some work to it?
Modded or not 260 ATW is still a max of 310 Flywheel

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Old 10-04-2009, 08:38 PM
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where did the 260 and 307/310 figures come from? im just seeing the original 346?
Old 10-04-2009, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
where did the 260 and 307/310 figures come from? im just seeing the original 346?
The thread starter posted on a BMW site the ATW figure

The 307 / 310 Fly figure is the max the car will make

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Forgot to add i have about 10 different graphs here with ATW figures and Fly figures and 260 ATW comes in at between 300 and 310 Fly

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346 is what the car is making at the flywheel acording to the rr operators equations.
Old 10-04-2009, 08:56 PM
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an 85bhp or 24.6% transmission loss is quite a lot .
Old 11-04-2009, 10:08 AM
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Rollers agin in 20mins!!! only goin of the rollers readings!!!

incoming call brad
Old 11-04-2009, 10:11 AM
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How's the handling since the 4wd conversion?

What setup did you use?

325ix gear I guess?


Any pics of the underneath?

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Old 11-04-2009, 10:24 AM
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E36? not bad power dude. HOW?
Old 11-04-2009, 10:35 AM
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20 minutes is up.....................
Old 11-04-2009, 10:36 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
How's the handling since the 4wd conversion?

What setup did you use?

325ix gear I guess?


Any pics of the underneath?

apparently they only work on the lhd versions due to the steering rack ebing in the way
the 525ix works because it's a bigger car

or so i was told years and years ago
Old 11-04-2009, 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by dojj
apparently they only work on the lhd versions due to the steering rack ebing in the way
the 525ix works because it's a bigger car

or so i was told years and years ago
Dont know mate, hopefully he can fill us in on what's been done to it as Ive always liked the idea of a 4wd E36 as a ring car
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Old 11-04-2009, 02:28 PM
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do we have todays figures or is it A SECRET
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the figures and graphs will be posted shortly , and im kinda lookin forward to this one
Old 11-04-2009, 02:40 PM
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is it a different rolling road used from the original post?
Old 11-04-2009, 02:44 PM
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Same RR same operator , apparently they ftted a k&n filter which gave a surprising result .
im not saying anything else till matt gets the chance to post .
Old 11-04-2009, 04:19 PM
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My E36 M3 evo was 264bhp @ the wheels / 307bhp at fly, standard apart from Dave F induction kit.
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Originally Posted by brad
Same RR same operator , apparently they ftted a k&n filter which gave a surprising result .
im not saying anything else till matt gets the chance to post .
I presume a gain, and that the oem removed was brand new?

Doesn't matter what figures are posted up if those losses are applied.
Old 11-04-2009, 05:35 PM
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callyt shud i do a run in 5th?

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Old 11-04-2009, 06:35 PM
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and the figures were ??????????

ime hooked as uk evo's are normally about 310 not many if any make the 321 figure even with chip filter and exhaust so iv'e been politely informed when i had my m3 last year a stage 1 saff had the legs on it
Old 11-04-2009, 07:23 PM
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put a dave f filter on it, lost 7 horse, so now 337.

They all said run it in 5th, but cos there all experts, they didnt relise that it hit the speed limiter, so u carnt ha ha
Old 11-04-2009, 07:33 PM
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rwd i reckon on about 13% transmission losses.
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
callyt shud i do a run in 5th?
I think you should go and get a reverse labotomy mate.
Old 11-04-2009, 08:02 PM
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I think ive seen this type off topic before???
Old 11-04-2009, 08:05 PM
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Any updates on this guys?
Old 11-04-2009, 08:16 PM
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he is still argueing over on the bmw forum.but who is right? they said run it in 5th gear as that is the nearest to 1:1 but m3 evo's hit the speed limiter in 5th way before they hit the rev limiter. think matts hit the speed limiter(157mph) at 6900rpm.
Old 11-04-2009, 08:26 PM
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Dotted line 5th
other 4th






Nothing more i can do
Old 11-04-2009, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Nothing more i can do

you could whip the gearbox and diff off and change them from ones that are not fucked
Old 11-04-2009, 09:44 PM
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im loughin my head of! arent u angry u have a shit vauxhall
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its about 300 bhp atf mate which is good imo.
Old 12-04-2009, 12:15 AM
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bloodyhell at first i read this and thought cally was a bit OTT, but nettleship... mate... you must be on crack if you think that M3's making anywhere ner 350bhp

and for the guy that said +10bhp for a chip and +10bhp for a filter, that is certainly not the case on an M3. to get anywhere near those figures youre looking at some pretty serious mods
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So we've now got 240ATW and 340ATF, it gets better and better.
I wouldn't do too many more runs I think the diff or box are ceasing up.

And that 340bhp is at 7000 and they make power a good bit past that, so could be knocking on 400bhp, God this is getting exciting.
Old 12-04-2009, 10:48 AM
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So its a E36.
Old 12-04-2009, 12:01 PM
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so the graph has shown peole like chip who asked the question regarding power figures n different gears that there IS a difference

on that graph posted it seems to be around 15-18 brake at the wheels more in 5th than 4th
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Originally Posted by m_nettleship
Dotted line 5th
other 4th






Nothing more i can do
Think you've got them the wrong way round, dotted line must be 4th?
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im pretty sure they dont rev to 7500rpm standard do they?


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