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Old 03-04-2009, 12:33 AM
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Default heart breaking decision on s2 what shall i do

right then this is the story on a s2 black rs turbo i have in my lock up and how i got it..

4 year ago a member on another site asked me to do some work on his rs for him but the roof is so rotton i had to say sorry its just to much for me to too, anyway it was there for around 2 years he never really contacted me or did i contact him it wasnt in my way in my workshop...

now the main story of this the owner of the car contacted me around 2 years latter and said his wife had a baby but the news isnt good he was born with a hole in his heart and will need alot of care so he asked me if i wanted to buy his car of him as he couldnt get it back from wales so i done a deal with him and bought it...

now then i didnt have a clue what to do with it and i really dont want to break it because the last owner was well upset due to the fact he had t sell it...

the car itself isnt in bad nick but the roof is so rotton i dont know if its worth the hassle id love to fix it and take it back to him and say remember your old s2 well here it is

now do i break or repair it bear in mind i already need to finish my other s2 and also make a start on my cosworth and its taken room now

here is the pics of it

work that it needs doing to it

roof
rear lower outer and inner panel
floor on rear footwell and front footwells
scuttle panel
front panel
battery try

sills look solid to me

















the floor inside needs some welding doing











the roof problem











under side









rear lower outer panel



pics of panels but it does have overspray on it













after a polish it does have god paint work but will need the whole thing doing if it gets done







front panel




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Old 03-04-2009, 12:52 AM
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H plate in black
Pity that is,the roof does look bad.How bigs your heart mate .
Old 03-04-2009, 01:22 AM
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it seems real nice of you to even think like that

if its only the roof skin cut it off and weld another one on off another escort

but as said depends how big your heart is
Old 03-04-2009, 01:29 AM
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Originally Posted by rax2wdrax
H plate in black
Pity that is,the roof does look bad.How bigs your heart mate .
well he was very upset because he had to get rid of it he really wanted to keep this car not only that he lost alot of money..

ive just cut a s2 shell up the roof had rust spots but some other panels can be cut out and re used like the small bit for the scuttle panel

i bought the car like this but is till have the mint half leather trim for it
Old 03-04-2009, 01:30 AM
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agree whats been said above thats a very good thing you doneyou should be proud of yourself as ther isnt many people in this world like youi would say go for it and make it mnty mint plus its a 90 spec
Old 03-04-2009, 06:18 AM
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Get the welder out, anything can be fixed with a welder and some tie raps. if you brake it you will only die inside in about 6 months when you realise what you did.

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Old 03-04-2009, 06:49 AM
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That roof is hanging, could be repaired but it would be a big job.
Old 03-04-2009, 07:07 AM
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one word SCRAP
not worth the cost of doing it
Old 03-04-2009, 07:22 AM
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Repair it m8, its a huge job but you will be well satisfied after its done, plus the rest of the car underneath, sills etc all look good.
Old 03-04-2009, 07:27 AM
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It's a kind thought mate, but a lot of work, in fact I don't think I've ever seen one with a roof that bad. And of course he's probably got other things on his mind now anyway.
Old 03-04-2009, 08:18 AM
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imo scrap. whats it worth when its all done, nowhere near worth all the effort mate imo.
Old 03-04-2009, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by RS Specialist
one word SCRAP
not worth the cost of doing it
unfortunately I agree with Pete, it looks beyond saving to me mate
Old 03-04-2009, 08:39 AM
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Decent sentiments aside, it aint worth repairing if its that rotten. I have never seen a roof so bad tbh.
Old 03-04-2009, 09:28 AM
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Great idea, but the best place for that shell is the crusher.
Far too much work/time/£££££.

Fair play for thinking about it tho.
Old 03-04-2009, 09:43 AM
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That looks like its had a roof before, is that a weld I can see accross the top of the a pillar? It might be the reason its soo rottern. I have never seen one that bad especially where its rusted through the by the tailgate hinges.

Other than that the shell can be fixed- go on save another! They are not worth much now but they are dwindling numbers fast! 10-15 years ago Mk1 and 2 escorts wernt worth a shit either!
Old 03-04-2009, 09:51 AM
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mate, if the price is right and your not a million miles away, i will save it.

Pm me where you are and a price
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right what i forgot to say is i have 5lt of black paint ready anyway there isnt much or big money to be spent on it

roof
sheet of metal for plates
4lt of primmer, 2lt of hardner, and 2 thinners
sealer
all wet n dry

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Old 03-04-2009, 10:13 AM
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scrap mate c'mon
Old 03-04-2009, 10:14 AM
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Scrap it.. looks like it was pulled out the bottom of a pond!
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Originally Posted by markyd3
unfortunately I agree with Pete, it looks beyond saving to me mate
dont agree with what pete say's he breaks them he will say that, there is many mark rot box's out there with sod all left on half of them but yet thay still build them up using new panels

as said what is it worth £3000-£3500 when its done...if done tidy

ive worked out around £600 it will cost me to do as i can do the work myself
Old 03-04-2009, 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Scrap it.. looks like it was pulled out the bottom of a pond!
really ??????
Old 03-04-2009, 10:18 AM
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Sell it to someone who understands the situation, im sure if it went to a good home the previous owner would be just as happy, well perhaps happier that it was gonna be someones pride and joy rather than just a project for the sake of it?
Old 03-04-2009, 10:19 AM
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scrap it... without a doubt!
Old 03-04-2009, 10:45 AM
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a reshell would be a MUCH better idea!
Old 03-04-2009, 11:05 AM
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Originally Posted by AlexF
a reshell would be a MUCH better idea!

Alex, just a dumb question... if you were to re-shell this int say, a 1.3 shell... Would it class as a rst or wuld it technically be a rep?

Sorry for bin dumb!
Old 03-04-2009, 12:56 PM
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alex i have a very very good shell but will be done from ground up at a latter date

olie it will never be an rs turbo unless it states on log book

i also have a mint mark 4 xr3i that will be going on here soon for sale it has the trim taken out but you will never find one as good as it, worst part is one wheel arch apart from that no welding has ever been done on it

here is the grey one












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Old 03-04-2009, 01:00 PM
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Do you want to sell the black rs?

my mk4 3i is much better, no rust anywhere, not even a small pimple on the arch :P
Old 03-04-2009, 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Elvis
Do you want to sell the black rs?

my mk4 3i is much better, no rust anywhere, not even a small pimple on the arch :P
i would but it would be worth more in bits mate it must be worth around £700 as it is in bits
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Originally Posted by Rs Baz
i would but it would be worth more in bits mate it must be worth around £700 as it is in bits
well if you want to sell it to someone who will save it and restore it let me know, but 700notes is a bit high for restoring imo, but its worth £700 to break
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Originally Posted by Rs Baz

now then i didnt have a clue what to do with it and i really dont want to break it because the last owner was well upset due to the fact he had t sell it...

wtf you don't want to break it in case someone else gets upset

SCRAP the shitter!
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Originally Posted by Lambchop
SCRAP the shitter!
pmsl
Old 03-04-2009, 02:33 PM
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Fook me thats rotten
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Originally Posted by Elvis
well if you want to sell it to someone who will save it and restore it let me know, but 700notes is a bit high for restoring imo, but its worth £700 to break
thats what i will have to break it

lets see some pics of your original E plate xr bud how many miles has it done

ed49 its not that roton you knob look at some of the one's in the past that have been alot worse than this only for the roof being the way it is there is sod all to do it ive seen some in worse state than this beleave me...

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Old 03-04-2009, 02:46 PM
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32k from new,


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Sorry mate, i'd defo break it, I know it's maybe got some sentimental value but lets face it, it's YOU thats going to have to pay to fix it and it's YOUR problem now,no one else will help you. if you've already got 2 other cars to do, it's not exactly gonna happen overnight and gonna get even worse in the meantime. You can pick these cars up for peanuts nowadays, i got ofeered 2 complete S2's last week for £650 and one was an H plate.
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Old 03-04-2009, 02:55 PM
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Originally Posted by rog
Sorry mate, i'd defo break it, I know it's maybe got some sentimental value but lets face it, it's YOU thats going to have to pay to fix it and it's YOUR problem now,no one else will help you. if you've already got 2 other cars to do, it's not exactly gonna happen overnight and gonna get even worse in the meantime. You can pick these cars up for peanuts nowadays, i got ofeered 2 complete S2's last week for £650 and one was an H plate.
thank you for your positive answer and yes your right it isnt going to happen over night and i really need to start on my cossie,

you should of got them s2 last week...

elvis that looks very nice mate, the one i got has done around 90,000 still very good for its age and mileage

whats going on with the passenger inside door on yours ?????????

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Originally Posted by Rs Baz
whats going on with the passenger inside door on yours ?????????
It was a special order from ford, has PAS and flat door cards.
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Originally Posted by TrevCos
It's a kind thought mate, but a lot of work, in fact I don't think I've ever seen one with a roof that bad. And of course he's probably got other things on his mind now anyway.
Agree with Trev!
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Yeah I was tempted, but I really wanted only 1 from the guy buy he said it was all or nothing basically, and I don't have thre room, also had the engine taken out of it and was in the boot Guess it wasn't meant to be, i think they're sold now. p.s if your REALLY wanting to restore it, i'd just reshell the bugger, much easier and more of a thourough job!


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