orionadam

just rang up my old boss who i worked for for two years,to ask for a referance his reply was "dnt bother if u put me down then u wont get the job because i will give u a bad 1 "i couldnt of bin that bad cuz i lasted two years and i was the onli van driver that didnt leave them after 5 mins

Kamike

Sounds like a nice bloke, either that or you were shit at your job

Dangerous Malcolm..

Did you leave on good terms?

St3V3_C

LOL.

I always thought you were not allowed to give a bad reference, only refuse to provide one...

orionadam

in away i did but they sacked me because i made a small stupid mistake there was no damage done, there were to many people up the boss arse

orionadam

thats what i thought but that company seem to get away wiv every thing

pa_sjo

You asked for a reference from a company that sacked you?

orionadam

yer because its the onli job ive had since i left school at 17 and i was there near 2 and half years im onli 19 thought we left on good terms was leaving any way

Matt Evans

I wouldn't call being sacked leaving on good terms....

Kamike

Boss - Your fired
Orianadam - Huh
Boss - Dont let the door hit you on the way out
Orianadam - Didnt know you cared thanks

PS can i have a refference

rs1072

iTrader: (2)

You can not give a bad one only refuse to give one

orionadam

ok guys u lot may laught lol but it as onli a very small family run company every 1 kn every 1 there

pa_sjo

I don't think there's any law to that effect? It's just common practise. Either way, refusing to give one is as-bad as giving a poor one.

tabetha

That's why I mainly did contract work, could pick and choose then, shortest was 2 days, longest was supposed to be 3 months but got bored so left as was still there 2 years later, but they've now gone bust.
tabetha

Cossy Mike

iTrader: (4)

Make one up. Just put down your good friend as a previous employer and say the company no longer exists but you have his home address, and hey presto!

Worked for me........

They never check anyway, my CV is load of bollocks....

orionadam

cheers mite just try that

Smit

iTrader: (5)

Did u nail his daughter or something?

cjwood555

Nothing to stop you saying "I'm sorry but I'm not allowed to give a bad reference..."

Red16

Of course you can give a bad reference. The whole point in a reference is so that the new employer gets an honest idea of the candidate in question, its a waste of time if every reference anyone gets says they are fantastic when in reality they were actually piss poor at their job.

slim20012

i was under the impression that they cant give bad references but its all word play so ya still get a shit reference just without it saying twat dont know his arsehole from his elbow

Lee_R21Turbo

iTrader: (1)

No AFAIK they can give a bad reference....but its actually illegal to give a FALSE reference - i.e. say they were shit, nicked goods etc when they actually didnt!!!

Psycho Warren

iTrader: (5)

That may well be true but proving they are lying is hard. Your word versus thiers.

Plus most employers wont take the chance so you wont get the job.

SapphyMike

LOL.

I'd concentrate on learning to spell properly too

mcst

You cant give a poor reference if it is likely to prevent that person from getting work afaik. Therefore you refuse to give one. Which has always been odd to me as refusal raises more questions.

C4llyT

What kind of reference do you expect from somewhere that sacked you?

"He was a great worker, right up until we had to sack him for....."

orionadam

yer true but i need a referance from some were lol

Ginge !

just be honest that you left on bad terms that you regret in reflection

ive left a few places on bad clouds in my time (once asked to leave before he calls the police) and so told the truth and got the job, just cause i was honest and never lied about it

NEVER bad mouth a old employer either, difference of opinion is a good way to mention theres no good reference

i got mates who get sacked for all sorts, one of em is a warehouse bod whos always on the theif and he get jobs all the time,, in yet more warehouses pmsl

also there was a bloke who worked at my place who was sacked for stealing, he got a job with a supplier who they delivered too even though they was TOLD why he was sacked too,,, how is that for strange

depends on the job tbh, some people struggle to fill a job and so will take gambles even if its short term

vikingboy

you cant actually d this without fear of legal retaliation.
Its why companies usually only confirm name, position, time with company and possibly salary.

Anything outside of that would be by "word of mouth"

vikingboy

what did they sack you for?

Ginge !

ps: we sued my missus ex employer for unfair dismissal and won and she also had to give them as her a professional refference along with her other one, she was shiting it but thought " no point lying as shes gonna find out" and she ALSO got the job

this job i got now i never got a reference ive discovered,,, though i was asked to work for them AND my last place still offer me my old job back when ever they see me and gave me a free rad for my impreza,,,, yet they never took the time to write back to my current employer as a reference

matts1

A chap at my old place got the sack for stealing on several occassion and being late, not turning up etc etc.

Anyhow, after a couple of months he comes in and pleads with the manager to give him a good reference, "i'm loosing my house, kids are starving blah blah blah"

So he does, writes him a really positive reference.

Next think the firm is hit with a lawsuit for unfair dismisal lol!!

I remember the owner being MIGHTY pissed as whenever they said he was late, a thief etc, out would come the reference, cost the firm 10k with the legal costs etc.

Manager was very lucky to keep his job.

truthordare

You are not allowed to give a bad reference, we have had many people sacked for various types of fraud and theft (working with money gets some people that way) the ones that are cheeky enough to ask for a reference simply have their name, salary and time worked with us confirmed and the rest is simply "no comment", this raises enough questions for them to not get the job (usually) if you gave a bad reference you could be sued for defamation of character, even if its all true.

Debs

westus1

iTrader: (6)

no such law up here in scottyland as far as i'm aware
we can(and have) give a bad referance if its deservred
i've only ever had to do it once, but as said the guy got the job anyhow, only to get sacked a couple of weekd later, hate to say i told you so

vikingboy

tis shocking but true!

Red16

If this is true its yet another case of world gone mad and people being scared to do things that are genuinely correct for fear of legal retaliation

orionadam

they sacked me because i didnt secrure my load very well because i was onli goin 100 yards up the road but the wind blow it off there was no damage done but one of the female driving drove past and instead of helpin me she went straight to the yard and grassed me in

C4llyT

That's 3 points and a fine I think, so could have been worse mate.
Does sound possibly a little harsh.

orionadam

yep was a stupid mistake in to years lol owell fuck them i will have to explain to my next boss

Rich_w

It's true. What most employers if asked will do is say "X worked with us from Day E to day F" Some may even add "His work quality was up to the required standard" if you were sacked for something unrelated.

It cuts both ways though. If you were an employer and you screwed a former employee's chances of EVER getting work. Do you think they will actually move on with their life? And some people change remember. Or what they did was a one off. Better to be neutral and let them be someone else problem.