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Old 27-02-2009, 08:34 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
will be fine

1 bar
filter (get a straight run to the turob and box off the filter)
exhaust

that will all see over 270 brake

you can change the fuel pump and try 1.2 bar (possibly with an S-AFC or similar) but i didnt notice moch over a solid 1 bar car unless you want every last 10th. Even then the lands may be on borrowed time.

1 bar is all you need on them really any more and you may as well start with a different base rather than dicking about

Whats a S-AFC?

So there is no need for a chip/setup unless going silly boost? How does the ecu handle the extra boost then will it make the map safe enough or is it on borrowed time running it like that.

He is planning on taking to a hillcilmbing event so wants it to be able handle more power safely.

Sorry for all the questions but i know nothing about GTIR's and although he is a merc technician he knows nothing about tuning cars at all
Old 27-02-2009, 08:44 AM
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safc is just an apexi gizmo that intercepts the AFM signal to tell the ecu to add more fuel at giver RPM points

no need to chip or set up it has an AFM so it will just supply the right amount of fuel for the given boost up the the max air flo of the AFM (around 270-280) brake. The standard map is fine for this. Obviously the closer you are to this the more you need to make sure all the fuling components are up to the job, fuel pump etc.

here is some pics of my S-AFC (about 6 years old though so things may have moved on) You can also fine tine more with a power FC.


if i were your mate i'd leave it at a bar and lose all the weight in the car, also leave the top mount in for hill climb and keep the rims to 15" max.

is the cam a 272? is he going for the 1.2mm HG?
Old 27-02-2009, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
safc is just an apexi gizmo that intercepts the AFM signal to tell the ecu to add more fuel at giver RPM points

no need to chip or set up it has an AFM so it will just supply the right amount of fuel for the given boost up the the max air flo of the AFM (around 270-280) brake. The standard map is fine for this. Obviously the closer you are to this the more you need to make sure all the fuling components are up to the job, fuel pump etc.

here is some pics of my S-AFC (about 6 years old though so things may have moved on) You can also fine tine more with a power FC.


if i were your mate i'd leave it at a bar and lose all the weight in the car, also leave the top mount in for hill climb and keep the rims to 15" max.

is the cam a 272? is he going for the 1.2mm HG?
Think the HKS cam said something like 260 odd cant remember off the top of my head. It did have a HKS head gasket aswell, not sure what he is going for when he rebuilds, what do you suggest and why?

So with a SAFC is that all he needs no matter how far he decides to go with the car or is there a point when the car will need to be remapped proeprly

Thanks for the help
Old 27-02-2009, 08:59 AM
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I think you lot are being unduly harsh on Carl.

He takes quite a lot of medication to keep his "unique personality" in check, and its clear that the doseage has recently been altered.

Please don't take the piss out of the special people - they still have a place in our society!
Old 27-02-2009, 09:00 AM
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bascially the limiting factor on the car is teh airflow meter, he need to pic a bhp level then he can decide on spec eg to get more than 300 he needs to source a z32 afm, and then use a power fc which is basically going to allow him to tailor the map to make use of the new components.

bascialy stage 1 if you like is filter exhaust boost
stage 2 is same but 1.2 bar but youre best off sorting out the pistons really and going to the bigger AFM (or different management of cours)e)

the engines do 500 brake all standard on HKS 3037'sin the states I think they just uprate the pistons and thats it for the most part.

The GTI R have better engines then the rest of teh SR20 range ( bar the turbo and a few other is better on the s15's)
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Originally Posted by rsnissan
bascially the limiting factor on the car is teh airflow meter, he need to pic a bhp level then he can decide on spec eg to get more than 300 he needs to source a z32 afm, and then use a power fc which is basically going to allow him to tailor the map to make use of the new components.

bascialy stage 1 if you like is filter exhaust boost
stage 2 is same but 1.2 bar but youre best off sorting out the pistons really and going to the bigger AFM (or different management of cours)e)

the engines do 500 brake all standard on HKS 3037'sin the states I think they just uprate the pistons and thats it for the most part.

The GTI R have better engines then the rest of teh SR20 range ( bar the turbo and a few other is better on the s15's)
cheers for the explanation. He is going to be using std pistons for now so that is going to limit him to stage 1 by the sounds of it.

I think it was running stg1 when it melted , but it only had a boost controller but no safc so would that be why it melted on a long motorway race
Old 27-02-2009, 09:10 AM
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I didn't realise GTIR psitons were so weak,

Alot of people are running 350 bhp+ with a standard bottom end using 'weaker' SR20 in S14's.

One of my friends is running about 450bhp with a standard bottom end (bar a uprated head gasket).

Z32 afms are good for around 500 bhp.
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it shouldnt have melted with 1bar even with no fuel comp (just a bit of extra safety at 1.2 bar) my best guess is the 18 year old fuel pump (and wiring)

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Originally Posted by lead_foot
I didn't realise GTIR psitons were so weak,

In my experience its the lands that are actually the weak part, most of the failures i have see its just the land that brakes and then the ring is fucked. infact they still run but just run into an oil pump lol

I guess its alot to do with how much det they have seen in the past really.

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Old 27-02-2009, 09:23 AM
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One more question whatis the std headgasket good for. stg1? stg2?
Old 27-02-2009, 09:25 AM
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standard hg is fine even but people normally fit the 1.2mm hks jobbie to lower the comp a bit when the head is coming off anyway
Old 02-03-2009, 07:23 AM
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http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/t...0DADS%20BEEMER

lol at the 355 geezers post!
Old 02-03-2009, 11:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Maria.
Nahhhhhhhhhhhhh im just a bird!

I know fcuk all about cars! I cant drive them that well either!
Well I'm glad that's cleared that up

A genuine 300bhp Pulsar is an absolute weapon I would be very surprised indeed if you could keep level. Was the 300bhp recorded on an arse dyno or a proper one?
Old 02-03-2009, 04:56 PM
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Eh?

It was dyno's at powers...
Old 02-03-2009, 05:17 PM
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Carl's mates car I presume.
Old 02-03-2009, 05:40 PM
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Ah i sEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Old 02-03-2009, 05:44 PM
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arse dyno then
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Originally Posted by SteveH
arse dyno then
More accurate than the real thing usually I expect
Old 02-03-2009, 06:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Maria.
Well, having owned a 280bhp Pulsar, and having driven 335d's practically every week, if not every day for nearly 2 years when i worked for BMW, even though the 335's are fantastic cars, there is no way they would out run a pulsar.... whether it be from stand still or 60mph rolling.....
Think your forgetting his 335d is chipped and he kills F40's so whats a lil datsun gots on him?

Fucking hell dude it only took a few posts till you did it again, the beemer killing fast cars has to get mentioned!

at first i thought you were a genius who had a million different approaches of telling everyone how fast your diesel is but now its becoming clear your just a bored kid
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Originally Posted by andy-rs
have i missed something??
missed something??? i thought this guy was a joke on passionford only, the guy is known as a twat on Pistoheads too

if your ever cruising the pistonheads forums you may see alot of users making odd remarks about "chipped 335d's" i never knew it was coz of this dude till he got exposed on here about it.

moral of the story... you've missed alot
Old 02-03-2009, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Carl's mates car I presume.

Nah, his Mums car - not enough with him claiming he owns his Dads motor, he wants his mothers too
Old 03-03-2009, 07:50 AM
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Just bought this, it needs some better injectors and remap for up to 400, then when the turbo pops gt3076 time





Running a new engine with eagle rods, forged pistons, arp bolts,gt28 rb, hks head gasket etc etc, i love it, more than any cosworth i have owned.

Not a bad spec car for just over 3k eh

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Old 03-03-2009, 08:21 AM
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Crikey! Bargain!!

Brunters run - You v Carl
Old 03-03-2009, 08:27 AM
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Bargain indeed, i love the credit crunch

Just need to find someone who can map it now
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Very good for just over 3k.

Never heard of a GT28RB. Is its a GT28RS, its running? If so you won't get to 400, well maybe once if your lucky.
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Originally Posted by lead_foot
Very good for just over 3k.

Never heard of a GT28RB. Is its a GT28RS, its running? If so you won't get to 400, well maybe once if your lucky.

Lol maybe once, i meant rb=roller bearing

i will leave it on push it to within an inch of its life then invest in a gt3076, unless someone wants to swap me
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Originally Posted by L7 KOS
Bargain indeed, i love the credit crunch

Just need to find someone who can map it now
What management is it running on?

If i were you i'd be calling Matt @ The Racing Line in Halifax, he mapped my Evo and my mates Pulsar GTiR which was running standard management with a daughter board, done a great job, very nice bloke too.

Evo injectors would be a cheap upgrade to your standard ones, and would be just about enough for 400bhp.
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Originally Posted by Red16
What management is it running on?

If i were you i'd be calling Matt @ The Racing Line in Halifax, he mapped my Evo and my mates Pulsar GTiR which was running standard management with a daughter board, done a great job, very nice bloke too.

Evo injectors would be a cheap upgrade to your standard ones, and would be just about enough for 400bhp.
he's working on me mate GUMBO's evo X too.... was already a bit of an animal but its gone back for more worky
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