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Old 01-03-2009, 11:21 AM
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Originally Posted by jhot80
the standard vxr isnt as quick but there is a vxr-r made by thorney motorsport which does 0-60 in 4.9 and 170mph and incase you think im making it up.

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/t..._Edition.shtml

little bit more expensive but so much quicker and looks the nuts it think. get a vauxhall warrenty as well. and for less money theres a vxr-s which is still qucik for £23,000.
That looks like a proper track car though rather than a fast road car that can still be comfortable from the looks of things. Impressive 0-60mph though! But it already has been remapped, full millitek and FMIC. The RS with those would probably up its numbers quite considerably too!
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Originally Posted by pani_k
That looks like a proper track car though rather than a fast road car that can still be comfortable from the looks of things. Impressive 0-60mph though! But it already has been remapped, full millitek and FMIC. The RS with those would probably up its numbers quite considerably too!
ill give that the vxr-r is a bit of proper track car but i read a review of the vxr-s on auto trader and the guy said it wasnt ne more uncomfortable then the standard one. and less of a handful under power because of the lsd. i love the new astras tho. would like a focus rs, wouldnt any one but it should be 4wd. wouldnt have been that more expensive. seen as they could have taken it from the volvos.
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Originally Posted by jhot80
ill give that the vxr-r is a bit of proper track car but i read a review of the vxr-s on auto trader and the guy said it wasnt ne more uncomfortable then the standard one. and less of a handful under power because of the lsd. i love the new astras tho. would like a focus rs, wouldnt any one but it should be 4wd. wouldnt have been that more expensive. seen as they could have taken it from the volvos.
Have you been reading the press reviews and seen Jost Capito's interview over the new RS. Personally, I'm convinced it doesn't need 4WD and think this car is going to be a huge hit. I really don't understand the fascination this forum has with 4WD, really I don't. 4WD isn't the be all and end all of the new Focus RS, if it is fine without it then why have it? They built a prototype 4WD and they decided unanimously that it felt shit 4WD and scrapped it.
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Originally Posted by pani_k
Have you been reading the press reviews and seen Jost Capito's interview over the new RS. Personally, I'm convinced it doesn't need 4WD and think this car is going to be a huge hit. I really don't understand the fascination this forum has with 4WD, really I don't. 4WD isn't the be all and end all of the new Focus RS, if it is fine without it then why have it? They built a prototype 4WD and they decided unanimously that it felt shit 4WD and scrapped it.
the choice to not make it 4wd drive was based on a focus group that said just as many ppl would buy it whether it was 4wd or not. and the fascination with 4wd is that it is better. you can play with the diff and the front suspension all you like but at the end of the day the front wheels cant do everything. it will be a huge hit cos it is fast and the love for rs's would sell it whether it was that gd or not. but it could have been better.
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Originally Posted by pani_k
Have you been reading the press reviews and seen Jost Capito's interview over the new RS. Personally, I'm convinced it doesn't need 4WD and think this car is going to be a huge hit. I really don't understand the fascination this forum has with 4WD, really I don't. 4WD isn't the be all and end all of the new Focus RS, if it is fine without it then why have it? They built a prototype 4WD and they decided unanimously that it felt shit 4WD and scrapped it.
I agree with you on that. Jost is also someone who understands that power should be across the whole Rev range. So far everyone is impressed with how the car starts to pull in any gear when you put your foot down. I doubted this car at first. But i think Jost really did his work on this car and built something really special.

Also the people who have tested it say that it feels a hell of alot quicker than what Ford say.
Old 01-03-2009, 10:35 PM
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why is it over priced then i dont see that, its come top's with most other model's not only that look at the price of he past rs models saph as much as £25000 and escort £27000

there is alot more on the new focus to the past rs models
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Originally Posted by Rs Baz
why is it over priced then i dont see that, its come top's with most other model's not only that look at the price of he past rs models saph as much as £25000 and escort £27000

there is alot more on the new focus to the past rs models
Well i asked the guy at Alperton Ford about the privilege discount and he said its 2K off the price but the agreement is that you have to keep the car for a minimum 9 months. Not Bad i say. You can proberbly haggle them down to 26K before telling them you have privilege discount. A Focus RS fully loaded for 24K?? Sound pretty good to me. Those lucky bastards with privilege discount!!!

But i do agree that the price is kinda high. I thought the car would have been about 23K for a basic model and 25K fully loaded!!!
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http://www.pistonheads.com/news/defa...?storyId=19456

So you think £25k is high when its only £3.5k more than a Astra VXR with Tinted glass and some stickers?


Some people on here need to get real about the price of new cars.
Old 02-03-2009, 05:32 PM
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i see a black rs on test from dunton today,omg it looks amazing in black and imagine it will sell by the bucket load.all the hardcore ford fans will snap them up.cant wait to see when you tuning boys get your hands on it yum yum
Old 04-03-2009, 12:05 AM
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http://magazines.drivers-republic.co...fight042/?fm=2

Good review of the RS by Drivers Republic.
Old 04-03-2009, 05:45 AM
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Originally Posted by PeterRST
0 - 100 maybe but not 0 - 60.
The 2006 F1 cars have a power-to-weight ratio of 1,250 hp (932 kW)/tonne (0.9 kW/kg). Theoretically this would allow the car to reach 100 km/h (62 mph) in less than 1 second. However the massive power cannot be converted to motion at low speeds due to traction loss, and the usual figure is 2 seconds to reach 100 km/h (62 mph). After about 130 km/h (81 mph) traction loss is minimal due to the combined effect of the car moving faster and the downforce, hence the car continues accelerating at a very high rate. The figures are (for the 2006 Renault R26):
0 to 100 km/h (62 mph): 1.7 seconds
0 to 200 km/h (124 mph): 3.8 seconds
0 to 300 km/h (186 mph): 8.6 seconds*
  • Figures may alter slightly depending on the aerodynamic setup.
The acceleration figure is usually 1.45 g (14.25 m/s²) up to 200 km/h (124 mph), which means the driver is pushed back in the seat with 1.45 times his bodyweight.
Old 04-03-2009, 06:25 AM
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anyone know what the warranty will be on the new rs,as i would love 300bhp and a warranty .
i hope the car sells well,as i think if it doesnt the it will be the last rs car to be built.
i would be surprised if it wasnt faster than a 300bhp cossie,with the added benefit if you do crash in one you might survive
personally i like the way front wheel cars handle, and i dont mean 0-60
Old 04-03-2009, 08:12 AM
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James, I'm sure it will have the standard ford three year warranty.
Old 04-03-2009, 10:29 AM
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video reviews, it looks composed and sounds the bollocks. maybe in a few years after ive got over old fiestas and capris i might try and get one or at least have a drive to see what the fuss is about
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Originally Posted by Benni
Sadly, most aftermark shit will ruin it. Soon their will be WR400 and something kits about, which in reality are awful and nowhere near the power claimed. Their is a review video were Fords own 260bhp ST was considerably faster than a WR300 ST. What does that tell you?

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You mean this one Benni?

http://www.drivers-republic.co.uk/dr...c9&area=videos
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Originally Posted by PF Dave
That's the one. From my terrible memory, the owner was full of excuses. Blaming traction and stuff. Their can only be two explanations. One has more power than quoted, or one has less? 40bhp is a lot.

Benni.

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Does look smart (I love the green myself)

But I can't help thinking 1.4bar of boost sounds a lot for reliability, I'm suprised it's that highly tuned to be honest.. sounds nice and (again) I'm suprised they managed to get away with the noise.
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Originally Posted by jhot80
the standard vxr isnt as quick but there is a vxr-r made by thorney motorsport which does 0-60 in 4.9 and 170mph and incase you think im making it up.

http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/t..._Edition.shtml

little bit more expensive but so much quicker and looks the nuts it think. get a vauxhall warrenty as well. and for less money theres a vxr-s which is still qucik for £23,000.
the same thorney motorsport that got a cls m3, changed the exhaust and gave it some electronic tweakery and then said it made 20 bhp more just by runng it on tesco 99
Old 04-03-2009, 05:42 PM
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The 0-62 time doesnt do it much justace since there is a torque restriction in 1st.

Thinking of getting a Green one to be discreet!
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Originally Posted by jhot80
the choice to not make it 4wd drive was based on a focus group that said just as many ppl would buy it whether it was 4wd or not.
Not true.
Old 04-03-2009, 07:40 PM
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IMo the new focus rs is like a rs turbo of its day.its a nice car but dear imo.its fwd wrong!!it has not cum from the wrc car so am still out on this car until a get a shot in 1 then hopefully it will change my mind?????rwd all the way lol!!!!!
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It would be interesting to see Fords test times for the 2wd compared to 4x4 & if they did it in all conditions.
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As already said, don't read too much into the 0-60mph time, or the fact it's FWD.

The internet seems to make people very fickle; look at the reviews it's already getting, and just wait until you have a go in one... it's nothing like any other FWD car you've driven... FACT.

It's amazing how something that on the face of it looks similar to an ST, is actually so different in so many areas.
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What do you know baldy
Originally Posted by PF Dave
As already said, don't read too much into the 0-60mph time, or the fact it's FWD.

The internet seems to make people very fickle; look at the reviews it's already getting, and just wait until you have a go in one... it's nothing like any other FWD car you've driven... FACT.

It's amazing how something that on the face of it looks similar to an ST, is actually so different in so many areas.
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Well, as it happens - a LOT more than you do - Silverfox
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Next your be telling me you work for a car mag or something like that.
I'll stick with my lardy V8 grunt muffin
Originally Posted by PF Dave
Well, as it happens - a LOT more than you do - Silverfox
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You know, i've just got the new copy of EVO and they rate it very highly indeed.

Its as quick as the Megane R26R on a real road if not quicker and fully loaded with kit.........they absolutely love it and say it represents tremendous value for money.

Sooooooo......
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waits for the...

but its not 4WD
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Originally Posted by danneth
waits for the...

but its not 4WD
They said they were glad it wasnt.

I think we can actually start to believe its as good as people have been making out.

RS is back with a bang
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Originally Posted by Turbosystems
The 2006 F1 cars have a power-to-weight ratio of 1,250 hp (932 kW)/tonne (0.9 kW/kg). Theoretically this would allow the car to reach 100 km/h (62 mph) in less than 1 second. However the massive power cannot be converted to motion at low speeds due to traction loss, and the usual figure is 2 seconds to reach 100 km/h (62 mph). After about 130 km/h (81 mph) traction loss is minimal due to the combined effect of the car moving faster and the downforce, hence the car continues accelerating at a very high rate. The figures are (for the 2006 Renault R26):
0 to 100 km/h (62 mph): 1.7 seconds
0 to 200 km/h (124 mph): 3.8 seconds
0 to 300 km/h (186 mph): 8.6 seconds*
  • Figures may alter slightly depending on the aerodynamic setup.
The acceleration figure is usually 1.45 g (14.25 m/s²) up to 200 km/h (124 mph), which means the driver is pushed back in the seat with 1.45 times his bodyweight.
I'm defeated!

I'm sure the Renault figures are quite optimistic though. And in 2006 they still had launch control.

My point still makes sense though. A WRC car is only some 0.5 secs slower to 60 than an F1 and they're quite different kind of beasts, just look at the huge difference in power to weight ratios. Therefore, the performance of a car shouldn't be determined by 0 - 60 figures.

On a different note: Anyone read Topgear magazine about the RS? It is officially chav now!

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ROFLOL@ all people who say the new RS is expensive.
25K pounds is circa 25K euro's as we speak. That's bloody cheap
Over here in Europe, prices vary from 33K euro in Germany to almost 50K euro over here in Holland, that's 47500 pounds. Now, that's what I call expensive.
And you English people are whining because the RS costs 25K
(I wish I could buy one that cheap, LHD)
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http://www.pistonheads.com/roadtests...p?c=47&i=19489


Another blinding review

seems they have cracked it
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"If you need further proof that the RS is quick it is worth mentioning that it has proved faster than any other Blue Oval-badged car ever built around the firm’s Route Seven handling circuit at Lommel, and that includes the 205mph GT. On tarmac it has the same roll stiffness as the ’06 WRC car too."
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Originally Posted by danneth
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but its not 4WD
Couldn't give a f**k about 4WD, but why the hell not RWD?
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I really want one now!
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I still reacon with time and development the t5 engine could be making a genuine reliable
350bhp/350lb torque. Of course its not cheap but its not expensive either,I definetely want to test drive one. You can't judge it til u driven it and specs on paper dont relate to real life performance. At least ford have tried to make an effort,
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the more i hear about it the more i lust over one
gonna be a cracking car the look of it
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Originally Posted by Graham S1
Couldn't give a f**k about 4WD, but why the hell not RWD?
Because it would be hugely expensive for Ford, and it's bloody brilliant as it is!!
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