The new focus RS!
26-02-2009, 11:00 AM
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25k for 300 bhp where else can you find tha sort of power for that money.stop knocking it i think its lovely and if i could afford 1 i would buy 1 and as matey said last of the escos were 28k so and were going back 10 yrs ago!!!!
26-02-2009, 01:25 PM
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I've got the latest issue of "Auto Motor und Sport" here, the most reputable car mag in Germany. It's VW land and they're usually quite critical about Fords but they absolutely loved the new RS, stretching the fact that it's got more torque than an R8, exceptional traction for FWD, etc.
26-02-2009, 01:45 PM
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I was going to say that but I dont want to get flamed for questioning the mighty 4wd
I've never driven a 4wd road car that doesnt have slight 'push on' understeer anyway so i just dont get what the fuss is about, providing the RS doesnt spin up its wheels in all the gears and lays the power down, which it appears to the only difference will be traction ( note traction NOT grip going round a corner ) in the wet, when you wouldnt be caining it anyway
Fucking mongs judging it as a disappointment or crap before they've driven it and the testers are all hailing it as the best hot (hyper) hatch ever
26-02-2009, 01:47 PM
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It's amusing that there are probably more 'haterz' on this site than any other! For some reason old school RS owners seem intent on disliking it even though it's clearly an exceptionally good car. I can sort of see the reasoning behind it, but even when the car's been demonstrated to be really rather special the haters remains.
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
26-02-2009, 01:53 PM
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It's amusing that there are probably more 'haterz' on this site than any other! For some reason old school RS owners seem intent on disliking it even though it's clearly an exceptionally good car. I can sort of see the reasoning behind it, but even when the car's been demonstrated to be really rather special the haters remains.
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
The heartening thing is all the testers say it's an 'occasion' to drive it and its fun wich is 99% job done regardless of the performance.
Roll on an RS Fiesta
26-02-2009, 01:53 PM
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I was going to say that but I dont want to get flamed for questioning the mighty 4wd
I've never driven a 4wd road car that doesnt have slight 'push on' understeer anyway so i just dont get what the fuss is about, providing the RS doesnt spin up its wheels in all the gears and lays the power down, which it appears to the only difference will be traction ( note traction NOT grip going round a corner ) in the wet, when you wouldnt be caining it anyway
Fucking mongs judging it as a disappointment or crap before they've driven it and the testers are all hailing it as the best hot (hyper) hatch ever
I've never driven a 4wd road car that doesnt have slight 'push on' understeer anyway so i just dont get what the fuss is about, providing the RS doesnt spin up its wheels in all the gears and lays the power down, which it appears to the only difference will be traction ( note traction NOT grip going round a corner ) in the wet, when you wouldnt be caining it anyway
Fucking mongs judging it as a disappointment or crap before they've driven it and the testers are all hailing it as the best hot (hyper) hatch ever
Also I'd sincerely recommend all the FWD haters to do a test drive in a Golf R32. Their AWD system is such a joykill, that you'll probably never ask for 4x4 again. All about driving safety but no fun at all.
AWD can be great but most of the time the targeted customer is either a hunter or someone living in the Alps, but not a car enthusiast who likes to drive his car in anger round a track.
26-02-2009, 02:11 PM
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hmm!i think you lot have gone abit of track lol!I have said that i feel that in this day and age a 0-60 of 5.9 is not mind blowing for a performance car!i take it you think otherwise?and you lot can honestly say that in the current climate that 25-30k is not alot for a focus especially when the new wrx is 17.9k,(yes the focus is alot nicer car to look at etc)thyen i am sorry but you all have far to much money to burn!!!or more to the case plastic money which is how we got into this mess in the first place lol!
26-02-2009, 02:13 PM
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Its 17.9k because they arent selling because the public havent taken to the new shape!
All the focus's competitors are around the same price! You're just picking on one shit one thats not as powerful, not as well specced and isnt selling because the public hate it compared to the previous model :s
If you're going to make comparisons, consider ALL of them, not just the ( tenuous ) ones that support your ( weak ) argument
All the focus's competitors are around the same price! You're just picking on one shit one thats not as powerful, not as well specced and isnt selling because the public hate it compared to the previous model :s
If you're going to make comparisons, consider ALL of them, not just the ( tenuous ) ones that support your ( weak ) argument
26-02-2009, 02:23 PM
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I imagine it's like nearly all of the RS models before it, apart from the really low volume homologation specials, which even then were so far removed from a fully prepared motorsport car they couldnt be compared
26-02-2009, 02:39 PM
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26-02-2009, 02:43 PM
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hmm!i think you lot have gone abit of track lol!I have said that i feel that in this day and age a 0-60 of 5.9 is not mind blowing for a performance car!i take it you think otherwise?and you lot can honestly say that in the current climate that 25-30k is not alot for a focus especially when the new wrx is 17.9k,(yes the focus is alot nicer car to look at etc)thyen i am sorry but you all have far to much money to burn!!!or more to the case plastic money which is how we got into this mess in the first place lol!
But still, given the fact it's a practical FWD hot hatch 5.9 as a stock figure is pretty damn impressive to me.
26-02-2009, 02:45 PM
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if you remove the arguing, the astra doesn't go round corners as composed as the st does
and, for what it's worth, i've seen loads and loads of focus st's driving about this year, and can't remember the last time i saw a vrx or any discription other than a monaro, but that's because i know osmeone who ownes one so that doesn't really count does it
and, for what it's worth, i've seen loads and loads of focus st's driving about this year, and can't remember the last time i saw a vrx or any discription other than a monaro, but that's because i know osmeone who ownes one so that doesn't really count does it
26-02-2009, 02:46 PM
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http://www.m-sport.co.uk/cars4sale/59
Look this is a second hand car..........they're all similar prices, EVO's Subaru's and shar virtually nill components with the road car. For WRC the hologation is actually on the 2.0 duratec focus.....read the Regs and you'll see
Look this is a second hand car..........they're all similar prices, EVO's Subaru's and shar virtually nill components with the road car. For WRC the hologation is actually on the 2.0 duratec focus.....read the Regs and you'll see
26-02-2009, 03:15 PM
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hmm!i think you lot have gone abit of track lol!I have said that i feel that in this day and age a 0-60 of 5.9 is not mind blowing for a performance car!i take it you think otherwise?and you lot can honestly say that in the current climate that 25-30k is not alot for a focus especially when the new wrx is 17.9k
,(yes the focus is alot nicer car to look at etc)then i am sorry but you all have far to much money to burn!!!or more to the case plastic money which is how we got into this mess in the first place lol!
,(yes the focus is alot nicer car to look at etc)then i am sorry but you all have far to much money to burn!!!or more to the case plastic money which is how we got into this mess in the first place lol!
I think that 5.9 seconds for a hot version of a regular family car is outstanding, but that's missing the point, as 0-60 is no indicator of real world performance. Plus £25K for 300bhp and 324lb/ft is good going - I'm never going to be in the market for one, as I'm not exactly a wealthy man, but if I was in the market for a car in that price range I'd be down the dealership tomorrow!
26-02-2009, 03:21 PM
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0 - 60 times really don't say that much about the performance of a car, do they? Depends on so many things. A WRC car on gravel will probably reach 60 quicker than an F1 on a dry track. So hardly a great way of comparing cars.
But still, given the fact it's a practical FWD hot hatch 5.9 as a stock figure is pretty damn impressive to me.
But still, given the fact it's a practical FWD hot hatch 5.9 as a stock figure is pretty damn impressive to me.
26-02-2009, 04:26 PM
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just in case he hasn't, some peole here have added some numbers to the argument
http://www.linksheaven.com/forums/in...showtopic=2929
0-160kph-0 in less than 6 seconds
4 to go, 2 to stop
http://www.linksheaven.com/forums/in...showtopic=2929
0-160kph-0 in less than 6 seconds
4 to go, 2 to stop
26-02-2009, 04:54 PM
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Its fwd for a reason, transmission losses, they would have to have made it a lot more powerfull in 4wd.
Take cossies as the example lets face it escos and saff 4x4s at stage 3 dont exactly set the world alight amd the ones i have been and drove felt dare i say it boring, but the stage 3 3drs and saff rwds at the same power feel like a different animal.
I think all the 4x4 drivers who slag fwd off need to learn to drive properly as 4x4 is for girls anyway
Take cossies as the example lets face it escos and saff 4x4s at stage 3 dont exactly set the world alight amd the ones i have been and drove felt dare i say it boring, but the stage 3 3drs and saff rwds at the same power feel like a different animal.
I think all the 4x4 drivers who slag fwd off need to learn to drive properly as 4x4 is for girls anyway
26-02-2009, 05:01 PM
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thing that i find most interesting is this is a std car! out of the box std cars even rs,s gone by std they are boreing until we bolt on a bigger blower have em mapped ect imagine this monster when the tuneing houses get thier hands on it, fuck them wait till i get to work on it
26-02-2009, 05:10 PM
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how often does a performance car come along and like you say everything said is all good
its the one man at autosport thier was a company with a tuned st that was at 395 and just think of the big power sweedish volvos same engine check em out ive seen a 600 horse one and its insane and thats a barge lol
26-02-2009, 05:10 PM
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On tarmac, a WRC car with the right gearing can get to 60 in less than 2.5 secs. The old group B monsters were even quicker.
An F1 car isn't built for quick launches. It has hardly any torque at low rpms, only two driven wheels and a very very very long first gear.
Do you still think what I said is so ridiculous? Goes to show your not really into racing stuff but quick in making fun of somebody..
im impressed with your knowledge
26-02-2009, 05:29 PM
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I though the 0-100mph of F1 cars was around 3 seconds or so. I do believe a test was done a few years ago where an f1 car did 0-100-0 in about 5 seconds.
26-02-2009, 09:14 PM
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a top spec escos was about 25k 12 year ago and plenty were sold!!! same 0-60 but much lower top end!
26-02-2009, 09:50 PM
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On tarmac, a WRC car with the right gearing can get to 60 in less than 2.5 secs. The old group B monsters were even quicker.
An F1 car isn't built for quick launches. It has hardly any torque at low rpms, only two driven wheels and a very very very long first gear.
Do you still think what I said is so ridiculous? Goes to show your not really into racing stuff but quick in making fun of somebody..
An F1 car isn't built for quick launches. It has hardly any torque at low rpms, only two driven wheels and a very very very long first gear.
Do you still think what I said is so ridiculous? Goes to show your not really into racing stuff but quick in making fun of somebody..
26-02-2009, 11:15 PM
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27-02-2009, 02:37 PM
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Sadly, most aftermark shit will ruin it. Soon their will be WR400 and something kits about, which in reality are awful and nowhere near the power claimed. Their is a review video were Fords own 260bhp ST was considerably faster than a WR300 ST. What does that tell you?
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27-02-2009, 04:09 PM
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Focus RS even with it's 300hp weighs over 1400kg so no wonder it 'only' does 0-60 in 5.9.
Let's be honest guys, how often do YOU do a 0-60 sprint?
I think it's one of if not THE most exciting car to be released this year, even though I can't afford one, as a previous owner of S1 + S2 RSTs.... I WANT one !!
How good does it look in white?
Sutcliffe seems to like it, a lot!
http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/...?AR=238360&CT=V
I'm looking forward to Drivers Republic's review of it next week, Chris Harris loved the mk1 FRS.
Let's be honest guys, how often do YOU do a 0-60 sprint?
I think it's one of if not THE most exciting car to be released this year, even though I can't afford one, as a previous owner of S1 + S2 RSTs.... I WANT one !!
How good does it look in white?
Sutcliffe seems to like it, a lot!
http://www.autocar.co.uk/VideosWallpapers/...?AR=238360&CT=V
I'm looking forward to Drivers Republic's review of it next week, Chris Harris loved the mk1 FRS.
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27-02-2009, 06:22 PM
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It's amusing that there are probably more 'haterz' on this site than any other! For some reason old school RS owners seem intent on disliking it even though it's clearly an exceptionally good car. I can sort of see the reasoning behind it, but even when the car's been demonstrated to be really rather special the haters remains.
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
Me, I just think it's fantastic that Ford are producing a kick ass RS again!
Give that man a cigar
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01-03-2009, 11:08 AM
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Imagine away then, there is very little to choose between them on track and in the real world i'd have a look at how the focus makes its boost and it's torque curve, then I 'd go drive one and a vxr and come back and tell us which is the better road car for a daily drive
Fact is the VXR has more top end but the focus has a sweet chassis masses of low down grunt
Both quick cars...........besides half a second of performance difference over laps of 2 mins or under have you compared the spec and build quality and interiors of the vxr and ST
Its not even a comparison, the Ford is much much nicer and better built
Fact is the VXR has more top end but the focus has a sweet chassis masses of low down grunt
Both quick cars...........besides half a second of performance difference over laps of 2 mins or under have you compared the spec and build quality and interiors of the vxr and ST
Its not even a comparison, the Ford is much much nicer and better built
http://www.thorneymotorsport.co.uk/t..._Edition.shtml
little bit more expensive but so much quicker and looks the nuts it think. get a vauxhall warrenty as well. and for less money theres a vxr-s which is still qucik for £23,000.