Chip

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Looks awesome in white agreed!

mechanic28

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they have loads of very interesting cars at the heritage centre at luton!including a rather tasty astra rally car and the mother of all lotus carlton!

Chip

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Do you mean the astra 4s?

Valued at about a quarter million quid IIRC the one at luton.
I believe thats the 740bhp one with the carlton diesel block.

Was having a good look over it recently at a show if its the same one, it really is an amazing piece of engineering!

mechanic28

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not sure what the call it but its bloody nice!think it has a 2.3 in it?think the last time i was on a course up there they were replacig the seals!I just want the lotus carlton they have!I also see sitting outside in the carpark a mallard green escos as well!

mechanic28

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Actually it might be a 3.2 lol!

Chip

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Its a diesel carlton 2.3 block, but destroked to 2.0 I believe.

There was also one with a ford engine in it at one point, although that wasnt as powerful as the vauxhall one!

Oranoco

Cor, people ar egetting abit carried away by all this aren't they?

It was entertainment that's all, not a serious comparison or test.

cossieDavedree

should of used a s1,,, but atleast the rs managed to complete a few laps!!!!!

Benni

Imagine they used Rob's Astra and told nobody... LOL!

Benni.

GTi-R23

I bet the people in the 5th Gear production office are pissing themselves with all this bickering going on.

New RS is nice though, snot green is not for me however.

GVK.

Me too, but a lot of 'petroheads' will argue their case on a TG track time, won't they?

Chip

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Well to a certain extent any track is an indication.

Thats just one that interests me less than most, as its, well, rubbish.

But its now a "celebrity" track I guess

STEVEST24

Good to see both old cars head to head and the new Focus RS, but both items far too short, 5th gear then waste 10-15 mins with Tiff pratting about in a plane. I thought it was a CAR show!!!

GVK.

Exactly!

Benc30

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im just glad somone had the sense to put some good older cars on tv, they should do it more often we all know the old cars are the best.

Turbosystems

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Engine 0-60 Top Speed Power(BHP) Torque(lbft)

MKI Astra SR 1598cc 11.8s 104mph 88 @ 5800rpm 93 @ 3800rpm
MKI Astra GTE 1796cc 9.5s 116mph 113 @ 5800rpm 111 @ 4800rpm
MKII Astra GTE 1796cc 9.2s 118mph 112 @ 5600rpm 116 @ 3000rpm
MKII Astra GTE 1998cc 8.7s 127mph 122 @ 5600rpm 127 @ 2600rpm
MKII Astra GTE 16v 1998cc 7.4s 132mph 156 @ 6000rpm 150 @ 4800rpm

Turbosystems

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Engine
Type: CVH
Capacity: 1596cc
Bore/stroke: 79.96 mm x 79.52 mm
Compression ratio: 8.3:1
Max power: 132 bhp @ 6000 rpm
Max torque: 133 lbf.ft @ 3000 rpm
Cylinders: four, in-line
Cylinder head: alloy
Block: cast iron
Installation: front-mounted, transverse
Valve gear: two cylinders per head, operated by belt driven overhead camshaft
Induction: Garrett T3 turbo, intercooler, Bosch KE-jetronic fuel injection

Transmission
Type: front-wheel-drive
Gearbox: five-speed Ford manual with 218mm clutch, viscous limited slip differential
Internal ratios: 1st, 3.15:1; 2nd, 1.91:1; 3rd, 1.27:1; 4th, 0.95:1; 5th, 0.76:1
Final drive: 4.27:1

Suspension
Front: MacPherson struts, tie bar arrangement with separate 16mm anti-roll bar
Rear: independent with transverse trailing arms, coil springs, telescopic dampers and
12mm anti-roll bar

Steering
Type: variable-ratio rack-and-pinion

Brakes
System: vacuum servo-assisted dual circuit hydraulic
Front: 240mm ventilated discs
Rear: 203mm drums

Wheels & Tyres
Wheels: seven-spoke RS alloys, 6x15
Tyres: 195/50 VR15

Performance
Max speed: 132 mph
0-60 mph: 7.8 sec

GVK.

This thread made me think about the old RST so found a pic to scan, thank god for the invention of digital cameras since then eh.

Oranoco

As much as I love my RS Turbo's that 0-60 time is at best exceedingly optimistic.

Glenn_

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So fook the shity vauxhall got beat lol.The only vauxhall i would have is the lotus carlton.

BazW

..faster track for starters as far as TV ones go

Jay,

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here is a clip as its the only way i could watch as 5th gear is wank

Turbosystems

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standard manufacturers figures for the S1
the figiures show how evenly matched the cars were as standard
and yes you are correct they are driving the wrong wheels

RSRoy

People outside the UK can't watch that unfortunatly.


But if you are familiar with downloading from Usenet you can get it from here: http://binsearch.info/?q=S15E08&max=...age=50&server=

dojj

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having had a few mates who have the 16V gte and a few mates who had rst's, in a straight line dash it was pretty much even between both cars

when it came to handling, the rst was marginally better

when it came to stopping the rst was a lot better

the astra was much better on fuel though and as a normal "car" as opposed to the rst

then they were both modded and the sheer abundance of bits for the rst made it a much better car

this is all harking back 10-12 years ago and we were just your run of the mill drivers who didn't claim to be better than anyone else (other than the guy in the 306D that said he was quicker than anything else on the planet, even though his best 0-60 time was just under 20 seconds )
no one could keep up with a stage 1 4be saph though

sbd16v

well seeing as that RST was standard, they could have used mine as a standard gte

would have all been fair then

think i should give 5th gear a call and let them use my gte VS a modded RST ????