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Old 18-02-2009 | 06:32 PM
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What cars have cosworth had a part in the engines of?


escort BDA
RS 200 BDT
Sierra/Escort YB

Granada/scorpio 24v

Mercedes 190 cosworth (and evolution??)

Litchfield subaru

Nissan GTr ??? (sure i read something once lol)

what others can you name?!

just wondering!
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cosworth dfv f1 and lemans engines
Old 18-02-2009 | 06:39 PM
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champ car cossie v8 turbo and maybe the new diesel in the range rover sport cosworth
Old 18-02-2009 | 06:40 PM
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A lot more than you think....they help lots of companies develop their engines. Big German ones too
Old 18-02-2009 | 06:40 PM
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ah yeah of course

the redtop was originally a cosworth top wasnt it.
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Vauxhall Astra XE engine?

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astra gte 16v had the head done in some,and subaru now too i believe.
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Some c20 vaux had a cosscast head
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sure the audi rs models had some cosworth bits on them
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just found this too..

http://www.race-cars.com/utility/coswrthr.htm

most of the obvious ones there, and a few of the lesser known ones
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Panther Solo - Had a mid mounted Ford Cosworth YB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_Solo
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i thought it was a bit of myth that vaxhall thing? coscast isnt cosworth iirc
Old 18-02-2009 | 10:18 PM
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A vauxhall technician told me that the coscast heads were not cosworth. I would love to know the real answer .
Old 18-02-2009 | 10:31 PM
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the xe was the same as the yb i think
was designed as an aftermarket 16v head for the std 8v block
then it all worked out well and got a production run
turned out to be 2 of the best engines around in value/tuning terms
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I was told recently from a fairly reliable source that cosworth had involvement with the development of the mk1 FRS engine.

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Originally Posted by e30cossie
A vauxhall technician told me that the coscast heads were not cosworth. I would love to know the real answer .
From what ive heard & read it was cosworth that did modifications to the xe heads, something to do with sleeving the waterways in them to overcome them going porus and thats where the name 'coscast' came from, wheres Chip? he will know lol
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coscast heads had a ledge on the n/s side of the head below the water connection and didnt go porous,i believed they were the first heads used on the astra mk2 gte xe's,after that the cavalier mk3 gsi's and astra mk3's inc turbos used the shitty gm head which did go porous.great engines,never broken 1 so bad i couldnt nurse it home.always fancied putting 1 in an rs turbo.
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Apart from the obvious YB engined cars, they had a hand in the following, bit of duplication of other posts but you should get the idea.

Lotus 7
Caterham Super Seven, with cosworth BDR
Chevrolet Cosworth Vega
Escort RS1600,RS1800,RS1700T
RS200
Scorpio 24v

Opel Ascona 400
Opel Manta 400
Opel/Vauxhall 2.0i16v as used in the Kadett/Astra, Vectra, Omega
Vauxhall Chevette HS and HSR

Mercedes-Benz 190E 2.3-16, 2.5-16, 2.5-16 Evolution

Panther Solo

Aston Martin DB7, Vanquish
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The Audi RS4 2.7 was done there, and I set up the engine line for the RS6 before I left.

Some Rolls Royce V8 were also assembled at Cosworth, when RR was re-building there engine plant. Also, the development of the RR engine to comply with new emission regulations was done by Cosworth. Myself and a chap called Dave assembled the first ever Vanquish S engine.

All the Aston Martin V12, Vanquish and Vanquish S, was developed and built by Cosworth.


Coscast heads are Cosworth.

A lot more goes on there, that never reach's joe public, including a lot of validation and testing for many manufacture's.

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Old 19-02-2009 | 08:39 AM
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COsworth technology will be in many many engines from many many manufacturers....

Its how the industry works - they are used as consultants just like Recardo, Prodrive
or Lotus.
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Old 19-02-2009 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by e30cossie
A vauxhall technician told me that the coscast heads were not cosworth. I would love to know the real answer .
They were cosworth the early heads even had a cosworth 'BA' part number cast into them.
Coscast is the casting process developed at what was the cosworth foundary and licenced to just about every car manufacturer in the world.

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Balls someone beat to chevy vega.
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but it didnt do the vega`s sales any good tho iirc
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
Panther Solo - Had a mid mounted Ford Cosworth YB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_Solo
I've seen one of those. The engine's are mounted backwards, and at an angle so that they can mate with the gearbox/transmission. They look proper weird under the 'bonnet'.
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Originally Posted by ghigo
maybe the new diesel in the range rover sport cosworth
IIRC the 3.6 V8 is a development of the 2.7 V6, one of the blokes who had a major hand in the engine previously designed the K-Series. This is all AFAIK
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They have been mentioned so a bit of History.

The Cosworth Vega
Jim Musser, the principal designer of the Vega engine, joined forces with Keith Duckworth at Cosworth Engineering, Ltd. UK - based Cosworth was well known for its winning British racing engines, and the plan was to explore the feasibility of modifying the aluminum - block Vega mill for Formula II racing. Ten Vega engines (without heads) were shipped to Cosworth and modification work began.
The stroke was shortened from 92.0 to 82.3mm in order to reduce the displacement from 139.5 cubic inches to 121.7 cubic inches to conform with the Formula II two - liter limit. Duckworth had also designed an aluminum cylinder head with dual overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder. Three prototype racing engines, rated at 270hp each, were completed by September, 1971.

Yep ! they have a fastest one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ke7htho9Sw







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Rod, Wow. Some good info there that I never knew !

Its amazing how that engine looks like a YB but in reverse !
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Originally Posted by SapphyMike
Panther Solo - Had a mid mounted Ford Cosworth YB.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_Solo

I was gonna say that!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
I was gonna say that!
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we used to plate a lot of cosworth parts for Boeing and Airbus for their engines
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Originally Posted by e30cossie
A vauxhall technician told me that the coscast heads were not cosworth. I would love to know the real answer .
Cosworth designed the cylinder heads.

Coscast was a technology which I beleive bolenonged to a subsiduary casting company of cosworth, and cast the early heads.

GM then took over production and made the heads themselves, although returned to the cosworth for the turbo models which also had coscast, and the very late DIS engines, this was to stop the issue with porous heads that the GM castings were prone to.


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Originally Posted by MadRod
They have been mentioned so a bit of History.

The Cosworth Vega
Jim Musser, the principal designer of the Vega engine, joined forces with Keith Duckworth at Cosworth Engineering, Ltd. UK - based Cosworth was well known for its winning British racing engines, and the plan was to explore the feasibility of modifying the aluminum - block Vega mill for Formula II racing. Ten Vega engines (without heads) were shipped to Cosworth and modification work began.
The stroke was shortened from 92.0 to 82.3mm in order to reduce the displacement from 139.5 cubic inches to 121.7 cubic inches to conform with the Formula II two - liter limit. Duckworth had also designed an aluminum cylinder head with dual overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder. Three prototype racing engines, rated at 270hp each, were completed by September, 1971.

Yep ! they have a fastest one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ke7htho9Sw







Some of the cosworth chevy vega parts were grafted onto a ford pinto block (not a cosworth project) machining the block to accept the steel vega crank and then had a deck plate bolted to it to convert to vega head bolt pattern, then linered through (twenty five years before martin).
2.3 litre reved tp over 9000 rpm, made over 300 bhp on lucas mechanical injection, some were fitted with a turbo , bit heavy though.
Engine was known as a rally master and used mainly in rallycross.

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werent c16xe (corsa gsi) heads cosworth devloped aswell..
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Originally Posted by johnny99
The Audi RS4 2.7 was done there, and I set up the engine line for the RS6 before I left.

Some Rolls Royce V8 were also assembled at Cosworth, when RR was re-building there engine plant. Also, the development of the RR engine to comply with new emission regulations was done by Cosworth. Myself and a chap called Dave assembled the first ever Vanquish S engine.

All the Aston Martin V12, Vanquish and Vanquish S, was developed and built by Cosworth.


Coscast heads are Cosworth.

A lot more goes on there, that never reach's joe public, including a lot of validation and testing for many manufacture's.

John

We must have crossed paths at some time then,i worked on a lot of the Aston stuff as well as Rolls/bentley,YB,Fba,some of the Audi stuff also worked on the build line for the Vauxhall XE head and the Mercedes Cosworth head,that was a long time ago,lol.


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