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Old 05-02-2009 | 04:15 PM
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Question i couldnt make my journey to work monday (SNOW) + im being docked pay!

what are the legal reasons on this? i work for royal mail and could not make the 8 mile drive to work on monday morning due to the bad snow, and my nearest office is still 3 miles away!

i got a letter saying i have some options-

lose a days pay
work my day off to cover 8 hours
lose a days work leave

this is very out of order in my eyes, it was due to 2 foot nearly of snow where i live for gods sake!

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Old 05-02-2009 | 04:18 PM
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Im like that too, if i dont turn up i dont get paid............
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:21 PM
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lol what do you expect if you dont turn up
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:22 PM
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I dont see a problem with it tbh........

You havent earnt that company any money but you still want to be paid.

What if you owned a business and one of the guys didnt turn into work......would you still pay them???

I wouldnt and i dont.....
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:28 PM
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no your works problem you could not turn up for work...

at the end of the day you did no work and as such you have not earned the pay for doing work so completely fair.

at the end of the day they are asking you do you want to loose 8 hrs, work your day off or use a days holiday, they could of just said tough you didnt turn up so loose 8 hrs pay.
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:34 PM
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Technically taking the day off gets registered as a "No show", unless the company specifies you did not need to go in. Did you call work and ask if you still needed to go in or turn up and get sent home?
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:35 PM
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I don't see your point

You don't get paid for making snowmen......ever

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Old 05-02-2009 | 04:35 PM
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same here
can't turn up for work, we can't use you, we can't use the vehicle, can't use the phone, can't make the deliveries, you either take it as unpaid leave or as a holiday

no other options

on the other hand, there were drivers who turned up to work, only to discover that the places they were going were inacsessable, so they got paid as they were there but the work wasn't able to be done through no fault of their own
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:38 PM
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Originally Posted by dreamer
I don't see your point

You don't get paid for making snowmen......ever

Unless you are a Snowman builder by trade
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:41 PM
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legally it depends on your contract, if its not mentioned in your contract they cant take it away from you despite whether it seems right or not
Old 05-02-2009 | 04:46 PM
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Yeah will just end up one of those bastard things...

Couldn't work 2 days this week and having to lose one of leave...joke is there was fuck all work on anyway
Old 05-02-2009 | 05:17 PM
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2 foot snow! Where the fuck were you? It was only 12" at most in the SE

IMO you should of made an effort, even if you rocked up late. Just whack it on your holiday and do some OT to claim it back.

EDIT : You work for Royal Mail. Do what they normally do just call the Union and go on strike.

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Old 05-02-2009 | 05:39 PM
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Your problem imo!!
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Originally Posted by purple_fiesta
lol what do you expect if you dont turn up

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Couple of people did not turn in for work the other day due to the snow ,we all got in, manager said why should i pay them when you are all here and they are not(we drive past one of the peoples houses that phoned in)

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Old 05-02-2009 | 05:55 PM
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why should your boss pay you for not being able to come in? its not his fault its snowing.
Old 05-02-2009 | 05:59 PM
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Sounds like royal mail are been very fair to me. am sure if you wanted to you could of made it imo
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:05 PM
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i cant see u standing a chance in this situation unless EVERYBODY failed to turn up by some crazy turn of events

lots of people saying they cant make it to work, few of my neighbours have done this week, and yet every day they have been 'stuck', iv been in n out to appointments and interviews, and most importantly to the park to go sledging today
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i wont be getting paid for the day i had off today cuz of weather. its not my fault it snowed and i couldnt make it, but its not there fault either. so im not complaining.
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Originally Posted by adam151082
Sounds like royal mail are been very fair to me. am sure if you wanted to you could of made it imo
when i live in the countryside and a big hill at the end of my road?
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:14 PM
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i think they are being perfectly fair tbh, i had the day off today, as I use the cossie daily, which doesnt work very well when there is snow involved, so took the day as holiday
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:14 PM
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could you of not rang in ? or walked the 3 miles to the nearest office?
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Originally Posted by furqall
could you of not rang in ? or walked the 3 miles to the nearest office?
i did ring in, also i called up the local office who starts an hour and a half later than me, the manager said do not bother as he is sending staff home
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:29 PM
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What was you told when you rang your office? If you told them it was impossible for you to make it and then was told "Not to bother" then you made no effort to go in.

If you said "I will come in" and they said "Not to bother" they told you to not work, so IMO have to pay you.
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:40 PM
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I made it into work on Monday and we all got sent home cos it was to dangerous out to drive the lorries, the Co is forcing us to take a days holiday....

Is that right?
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:41 PM
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I couldnt make it 2 my office ither! so i got 2 a office i could get 2 (euro carparts!) and just did what i could 2 help out!
Not the companys fault it snows, just one of those things u have 2 take on the chin!
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You all need to take it up with your companies HR department as soon as you can.

Every company will have its own policy on pay when youre unable to attend work due to extreme weather conditions.
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if you went in or rang in and they said dont bother coming in then i would defo want paying
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:45 PM
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I havent been paid for not working in YEARS!

Any time off = no pay!

Simple really!
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Sorry for thread hijack....
We had tuesday off, were told not to come in.
What do we get?
Told boss should get 7.5 hours as per minimum/lieu day, as willing to work....
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Originally Posted by C4llyT
Sorry for thread hijack....
We had tuesday off, were told not to come in.
What do we get?
Told boss should get 7.5 hours as per minimum/lieu day, as willing to work....
Again, each company will have its own policy for dealing with time off due to weather conditions.

You need to read your contract or see your HR dept.
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Originally Posted by Punkie
Again, each company will have its own policy for dealing with time off due to weather conditions.

You need to read your contract or see your HR dept.
Be retired before HR get back to me.
Will dig out handbook, good thinking
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:52 PM
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lol, get paid for nothing....
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
I made it into work on Monday and we all got sent home cos it was to dangerous out to drive the lorries, the Co is forcing us to take a days holiday....

Is that right?
Fuck that! Surely they cant do that!!!
Old 05-02-2009 | 06:58 PM
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how is that unfair? why hsould you get paid for not attending work? They're giving you the option to work it back etc.. so as not to get lesser wages.

I have WALKED in the deep snow to work once, 4 miles, I was an hour late but I still went.

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Old 05-02-2009 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
I made it into work on Monday and we all got sent home cos it was to dangerous out to drive the lorries, the Co is forcing us to take a days holiday....

Is that right?
you attended work, willing to work, unable to work as your boss told you not to, you should get paid

same with a guy who came in the other day expecting a route, someone forgot, he was told to go home, i made sure he got confermation that he was getting paid

same with a guy who turned up 2 weeks ago, same thing, forgot that he was due to come in, got told to go home by someone who wasn't actually able to send him home, he got a days holiday, currently under investigation

even if you are agency, you turn up you get paid

if you don't turn up however, then that's a whole diferent kettle of fish
Old 05-02-2009 | 07:00 PM
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im a electrically engineer, i live in kent, one of the worst affected areas and my first 2 jobs on monday was harwich and clacton in essex, i know the conditions werent great but i managed to cover about 200 miles that day, were other people said they couldnt make it in, although some may have been genuine i think the majority of people thought bollocks il take the day off, to be honest i dont think youv got a leg to stand on with pay unless your managers told you not to turn up for work.
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I agree with Dojj for once!
Was willing to work, told not to, not my fault.
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Originally Posted by BillyCabrio
I made it into work on Monday and we all got sent home cos it was to dangerous out to drive the lorries, the Co is forcing us to take a days holiday....

Is that right?
wish my gaffer was like yours,his motto is if you can get out of yard you can get down the road! eat his words today tho when he had a 08 reg scania jacknife on the m1
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at long last dojj speaks some sence lol,


i was in same situation , i work for parcel force (part of royal mail ) went in but were told to wait for a decision to be made , was sent home at 11 , to be fair we werent willin to go out as thought it was too dangerous to drive large vans on small side roads in those conditions , but we were still there n waited for them to send us home as we would have done our hours if theyd have said we couldnt go but had to still be there

half day , full pay , woooohooo


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