madmack99

as title i was just wondering what do these put out std, and what modifications are out there if any.

capri280

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heres mine use it on road and as a track day toy

It standard has rolling roaded at 209bhp and 234lb/ft torque

its running

full stainless steel exhausts with cats
mt75 rwd box
std injectors and ecu

cossie4i+

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The BOA is 195bhp

When fitted with a performance air filter and a decat exhaust you will get about 210bhp and about the same torque.

You can get a chip for the ecu but i never fitted one to mine.

Steve.

capri280

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in terms of modifications with std engine

N/A

Aftermarket ecu and bob cams in a boa engine 240-250bhp

Turbo

Std or aftermarket ecu,remap t3 turbo either single or twin running 7lbs boost on a standard engine 300-350bhp

Super charged

On standard engine after market ecu and remapnot totally sure but probally 350 bhp


Reports of 600-800bhp have been heard of but i am sure it woyld be costly

Best person to speak to is mike at boost performance do web search and you will find their details

cossie4i+

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Double post

My net connection is doing my head in

Steve

madmack99

sounds pretty easy to get 250bhp then what they like acceleration etc

capri280

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they are quick because of the torque

i would say it would push/head a stage 1 cosworth turbo all the way to 100mph

madmack99

sweet sounds like agood engine and not many people use them, sounds like a good track engine

JohnnyB

well I would just stay with a stage one cossie, but he seemed to have the edge as his revs climbed, but only just

mark

loads of people use them and have for years

capri280

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What box do you run

If you use the back end section from a 2l dohc box and not the higher gear from a diesel or transit box you will struggle above the 80-130 mph where as the higher fifth gear will carry a 24v to 160-165mph

dojj

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they have issues with timing chain guides and about a 6500 safe rev limit

but within those paramiters, it's got all the power you'll ever need to put into a sierra

cossie04

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Another common mod with these engines is Vauxhall Vectra V6 injectors as this gives a smoother improved rev range...

dojj

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johnny's was before we discovered the 5th gear mod, but even with a standard box i've seen them come off the clocks (ok, so even with a 10% speedo error, that's still good going)

i've seen the wrong side of 170 in mine (ok, so it was about 6 years ago now mind )

cossie4i+

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On a Type 9 gearbox with a 3.62 diff and 205/40/17s the highest top speed i reached at Brunters on a Fast Ford test day was 140mph. Mine was the fastest N/A car. The car would of hit the rev limit at 146mph.

Steve.

madmack99

JohnnyB

what I am saying as the 24v is starting you run out of steam at 6k and the YB is still pulling well, so I would change gear and a second later he would and thats how the YB would gain

cossie4i+

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I would not go above the factory 6250rpm limit as the bottom ends let go.

Steve

capri280

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yea agreed

but 200-300 will buy you a 24v engine and be bullet proof where as a std cossie will cost between 1000-2000 and you may be buying trouble

I should know i have a 380bhp saff a well the 24v is so much fun

dojj

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the problem is that the old 12V lump had lots of grunt midrange but couldn't breathe higher up

so they went and put multi valves heads on it to make power top end, but failed to sort the shonky bottom end

i know i've got the last generation of blocks with extra extra webbing to stop it from flexing, but even so, i'll be sticking to a nice affordable 6500 rev limit to reduce the costs of a costly rebuild should it come to that

JohnnyB

yes I sold my 24v, but I would have a 24v saff, before a YB saff anyday.

Cheap, great fucking fun love them, its not all about power its about fun and the 24v gives just the right power at a price for that fun factor.

jammerrs

can you get 3 door 24v's?

only ever seen sappiars

cossie4i+

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You make them.

I had a 24v in a MKV Cortina

Steve

jammerrs

cossie4i+

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Also a fitted a cossie turbo in my Cortina as well

Steve.

Jim Galbally

i have spent a LOT ona 24v car before so this is from experience....

...dont spend money trying to make it go faster.

go for an exhaust, air filter, and maybe a chip then leave it.

youll spend a LOT of money chasing very small gains otherwise and it just sint worth it.

what makes the 24v such a good engine is the fact it's CHEAP. if you want to a few quid youre better off using a different more tueable and better engine

dojj

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yes, but i think i've met you and you do have that mad glint in your eyes

costina

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We all have eh Steve

Paul

The Youth.

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24v sierra's good track cars??

oh yes!!

here is mine and m8's (robrs2 on here) round croft
mine is the red boa one and robs is the white bob powered one, the camera view swaps between both.

http://photobucket.com/albums/v232/r...t=croftpt1.flv


they do make very good track cars, just watch for timing chain tensioners being eaten and bottom ends going I keep the revs down to 6k max to protect it

steve

James

daft question but what are they like on fuel?

i'd love one in my 2.0 4x4 estate but since i only use it to take the dogs out in it seems a bit pointless

Jim Galbally

theyre not unreasonable on fuel can get some good figures when taking it easy

Oranoco

Jim Galbally had one in his old Saph, was always quite impressed with how well it went

cossie04

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As said they are quite reasonable on fuel. The 24v engine in mine is actually more ecnomical than than the 2.9i 12v i had in there. On a run i can get about 350 miles to a tank give or take.

A very good engine for what they cost...

PaulT

Bit of imagiantion and you get this, mate of my brother all scratch built manifolds etc in an Opel Manta

JohnnyB

I bet thats a low blow setup, but they still hit over 300 pounds of toque in that form

PaulT

Not sure on the boost it will be running its still work in progress, i think he's talking about using an Emerald ecu so should be good. Proper sleeper though bog standard manta with this in it.

PaulT

James

bloody hell thats good! i've never got that out my 2.0 even on a run!

how many miles a tank does it do just round town?

i know of someone who put this engine in a series 2 land rover 90! there was a vid on youtube, looked quick! totally mad tho

turbozvh

a mate had a 24v cossie engine in a sierra out in torquay one night i was in a pulsar and watched the 24v pull straight past us and off into the distance. i couldn't belive my eyes

SteveH

I want one

turbozvh

about the fueling of the 24v same night as above the pulsar used 3/4 of a tank of fuel and the 24v used 1/4 over the same distance it was pretty good on the go go juice for a 2.9 v6