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Old 07-01-2009, 07:17 PM
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Personally I'd go for Adrenaline because I've used Danny before, and replacing those bushes with rose joints means never having to source new, rare, expensive bushes
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How much is the adrenaline one?
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Originally Posted by James90RS
Personally I'd go for Adrenaline because I've used Danny before, and replacing those bushes with rose joints means never having to source new, rare, expensive bushes

I presume the rose joints are the ones pictured below? That's a good point - if those bushes are going to get rarer over time, that's quite a plus point for your type of beam that doesn't need them?



Any alternative on the Ahmed one...or best to get some spare bushes when you buy one to future-proof yourself?
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Thats the rose joints, thats our beam, only adjustable for camber, on the Adrenaline beam, the outer is also rose jointed for toe adjustment (if you get the stg2 beam)

I know people have already had a nightmare finding replacment standard bushes there, as poly ones don't work well there

I believe the Ahmed one is the same as above, but is slotted for toe adjustment, thus leaving the other bushes in place...

I am sure Danny can quote you prices
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To be fair though, replacement good quality rose joints are far more expensive than bushes
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Adrenaline stg 1 uses standard outer bushes and the holes can be slotted if required by the customer, the toe and camber fully rose jointed is the stg2.


*due to trading rules I will not be quoting prices or contact details in my replies and my replies are for the interest of the readers reguarding the thread title.
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Danny, this might be a tiny bit off topic but i am looking at getting a beam and adjustable tcas at the same time, whats your view on compression struts if the car is going to be used purely on the road, as i have heard mixed reviews about losing the arb on a road car??
Old 08-01-2009, 02:08 PM
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Originally Posted by loader5710
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They want more than Mike does.
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Originally Posted by ECOS95
They want more than Mike does.

all right, all right don't shoot the messenger , was only trying to help.
Old 08-01-2009, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by loader5710
all right, all right don't shoot the messenger , was only trying to help.
Sorry fella, Cheers for the heads up

Does anyone have a no. for Danny regarding his beams ? his web site is down.
Old 08-01-2009, 04:05 PM
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** edited by the web team **.

Regarding replacement standard rear bushes, these will be available again shortly .

Last edited by Turbosystems; 08-01-2009 at 04:29 PM.
Old 08-01-2009, 04:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
** edited by the web team **.

Regarding replacement standard rear bushes, these will be available again shortly .
Is that from Ford Mike...or a special secret supply?
Old 08-01-2009, 05:07 PM
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What did you say Mike?
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Originally Posted by Mike Rainbird
** edited by the web team **.

Regarding replacement standard rear bushes, these will be available again shortly .
sorry what was that mike..i missed it
Old 08-01-2009, 05:17 PM
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I take it Brom isn't building beams any more?
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Originally Posted by Chip
To be fair though, replacement good quality rose joints are far more expensive than bushes

So, if it came down to a choice Chip, which would you go for and why?
Old 08-01-2009, 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike1
So, if it came down to a choice Chip, which would you go for and why?
For what application?

For a trackday car, the race spec adrenalin beam gets my vote.
Old 08-01-2009, 08:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
For what application?

For a trackday car, the race spec adrenalin beam gets my vote.

..whereas for a road car, you'd go with the Ahmed type one or non-toe adjustable Adrenaline one?

Or am I putting words in your mouth?
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Originally Posted by Mike1
..whereas for a road car, you'd go with the Ahmed type one or non-toe adjustable Adrenaline one?

Or am I putting words in your mouth?

No you are right mate, the race one is over the top for a road car IMHO

Id go for the cheaper adrenalin one, but slotted as danny mentioned.


I just cant decide yet wether my car is a trackday car or a road car in the future, been totally a road car so far, but im tempted to strip it out and track it.
Old 08-01-2009, 08:28 PM
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so do you need a quaife diff etc if you fit either adjustable rear beam to get the full benefits?
Old 08-01-2009, 08:31 PM
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I know of a couple of race cars that are running AB beams with no problems. Definately received more of a hard time than your typical track car! That'd be my choice.
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
so do you need a quaife diff etc if you fit either adjustable rear beam to get the full benefits?
Even the standard cossie rear beam needs a better diff really mate.
Also bear in mind that if you are launching hard, the more grip you have the more likely you are to break a diff.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Even the standard cossie rear beam needs a better diff really mate.
Also bear in mind that if you are launching hard, the more grip you have the more likely you are to break a diff.

So whats so bad with the standard diff?its lsd etc!?I also get that nervous handling specially when backing off at high speed sometimes the back end gets very nervous and snakes abit although my cossie is very very low !Is this a 50/50 then with the diff and beam being as bad as each other?
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mechanic28- you're best to change one thing at a time or you don't really know where the improvement lies. Just changing the beam is often more than enough.
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
mechanic28- you're best to change one thing at a time or you don't really know where the improvement lies. Just changing the beam is often more than enough.
this is true but i would deffo need to raise the car up if i did fit a beam would have to fit konis and bajoo springs i would think!i would of though the beam causes the nervous charactristics more then the diff?But on the other hand chip is correct that the standard diff would more then likely shit itself with the extra grip etc!however doing all these items is over 2k!and Feck that!!!!
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I'd go with the AB springs/konis/beam.. and then IF and when the diff breaks, replace it or upgrade it..
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Originally Posted by mechanic28
So whats so bad with the standard diff?its lsd etc!?I
Are the Bara re-rated VC ones not worth bothering with?
Old 09-01-2009, 11:41 AM
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the biggest problem with the standard lsd is that it is 15 years + old worn out due to age and abuse
servicing the unit and uprating it to group n ratings improves the handling no end
however you then need to uprate the sun and planet gears
if your intended use is track days etc fit an oil cooler too
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Originally Posted by Danny B
Adrenaline stg 1 uses standard outer bushes and the holes can be slotted if required by the customer, the toe and camber fully rose jointed is the stg2.


*due to trading rules I will not be quoting prices or contact details in my replies and my replies are for the interest of the readers reguarding the thread title.
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Originally Posted by Sonic Boom
How much is the adrenaline one?
Cheers Rich

Just so you dont think you were being ignored, I did reply, but the moderators deleted my reply.

Last time I enquired they were

Stage 1 750 quid including VAT
Stage 2 998 quid including VAT
Race 1998 quid including VAT
Outright is 150 quid extra, as those prices are based on exchange.
And all of their beams come blasted and powder coated included in the price.

I dont know if these prices are current though




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Chip - I've added the post that was deleted back onto this thread so the single thread that you've posted with the info isn't needed anymore.

Ps, it wasn't me that moved the original post (before you start with all the short ass jokes) rofl

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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
the biggest problem with the standard lsd is that it is 15 years + old worn out due to age and abuse
servicing the unit and uprating it to group n ratings improves the handling no end
however you then need to uprate the sun and planet gears
if your intended use is track days etc fit an oil cooler too
Does that infer that the BARA uprated one is serviced and uprated to Gp N rating?

....AND, then that you could really do with uprating the sun and plant gears after that?

Who can actually do this type of work or is it an extra that Bara offer? It is hard to find info on this type of thing - other than an old FF article on CTS, I have not seen much info on uprating the std diff.

Is an uprated VC type less snatchy than a Quaife? Or is there soem other reason other than cost to stay with the original Ford idea?
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Originally Posted by A J
Chip - I've added the post that was deleted back onto this thread so the single thread that you've posted with the info isn't needed anymore.

Ps, it wasn't me that moved the original post (before you start with all the short ass jokes) rofl
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It's a good job brim isn't making beams anymore!
Chip, if you want a beam and don't mind waiting a few months for me todesign it in SW, build the jig and get the parts laser cut and turned up I'd be happy to do you one at cost?
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
the biggest problem with the standard lsd is that it is 15 years + old worn out due to age and abuse
servicing the unit and uprating it to group n ratings improves the handling no end
however you then need to uprate the sun and planet gears
if your intended use is track days etc fit an oil cooler too

most spot on post yet its the diff that causes most the back end crap then correct bushed beam and correct rear spring rates help to
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
the biggest problem with the standard lsd is that it is 15 years + old worn out due to age and abuse
servicing the unit and uprating it to group n ratings improves the handling no end
however you then need to uprate the sun and planet gears
if your intended use is track days etc fit an oil cooler too
Does that infer that the BARA uprated one is serviced and uprated to Gp N rating?

....AND, then that you could really do with uprating the sun and planet gears after that?

Who can actually do this type of work or is it an extra that Bara offer? It is hard to find info on this type of thing - other than an old FF article on CTS, I have not seen much info on uprating the std diff.




Originally Posted by Jay.
most spot on post yet its the diff that causes most the back end crap then correct bushed beam and correct rear spring rates help to

What diff have you got Jay? You're saying the diff caused most of your dodgy handling at the rear? I presume you changed from a std tired Ford VC Lsd to a ???
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Originally Posted by Mike1
Does that infer that the BARA uprated one is serviced and uprated to Gp N rating?

....AND, then that you could really do with uprating the sun and planet gears after that?

Who can actually do this type of work or is it an extra that Bara offer? It is hard to find info on this type of thing - other than an old FF article on CTS, I have not seen much info on uprating the std diff.







What diff have you got Jay? You're saying the diff caused most of your dodgy handling at the rear? I presume you changed from a std tired Ford VC Lsd to a ???
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