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Old 31-12-2008, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by dojj
sory mate, i was one baout the 4x4 cooler, the 2wd coolers were on for around £40 at the same time because i know a guy who bought a few to weld up together, as well as some other coolers from other motors for something silly like £25 a pop, all with proper welded metal ends, not plastic ones like the r5 turbo's etc

one thing though, seeing as you tend to know about these things would they have had to use a different hose to fit the 500 cooler as it's got bigger pipes on it?

They would mate , the 500 cooler has 76mm in and out pipes , I told the boys at FF that tho and told them the Roosemotorsport did special hoses for this so im sure they ordered some ready
Old 31-12-2008, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I have not seen the mag yet but was the RR results backed up with a road test comfirming the Airtemp results from the RR, Or was it just straight power runs and nothing more.

Mark
Just on the rollers i think mark
Old 31-12-2008, 02:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Rs500 Registrar
Just on the rollers i think mark
Are you sure as to me thats a incomplete test as you would need to back up the data with road testing.

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Old 31-12-2008, 02:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
Are you sure as to me thats a incomplete test as you would need to back up the data with road testing.

Mark

im positive thats how it was done, as it was my car that was used
Old 31-12-2008, 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
im positive thats how it was done, as it was my car that was used
I like testing on a RR but something that relies on real wind for its cooling IMO would need to be tested on the road to back up the data,
Most other things that you test would not be so important to back the data up.

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Old 31-12-2008, 02:44 PM
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cant wait to see how my car does now with the gen rs500 cooler welded to the pro alloy one

i was running pace before and was not getting good act`s on the rollers
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I like testing on a RR but something that relies on real wind for its cooling IMO would need to be tested on the road to back up the data,
Most other things that you test would not be so important to back the data up.

Mark
true mark,no matter how good the fans are at r/r,its never going to be the same at speed on the road,especially up here in scotland
Old 31-12-2008, 11:07 PM
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where did the original Rs500 cooler come ? or was that tested against the rest ?

some of you forget that the rs500 cooler was made in 1986 ....lol.. and will still hold it's own against any of them to this day

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Old 01-01-2009, 08:50 AM
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Originally Posted by marco polo
where did the original Rs500 cooler come ? or was that tested against the rest ?

some of you forget that the rs500 cooler was made in 1986 ....lol.. and will still hold it's own against any of them to this day

marco

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I sent them a gen 500 cooler to test but it got damaged in the post so they couldnt use it .

Im quite sure that the gen 500 cooler would have come out tops as it usually does

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Originally Posted by col cos1
cant wait to see how my car does now with the gen rs500 cooler welded to the pro alloy one

i was running pace before and was not getting good act`s on the rollers
why do you feel the need to weld a perfectly good 500 cooler to a very lesser item rod tarry never has ?

and tbh i cant see how pro alloy cam out on top as every big horse cossie running a proalloy cooler has to have the intercooler modified to death to get it to work
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I have not seen the mag yet but was the RR results backed up with a road test comfirming the Airtemp results from the RR, Or was it just straight power runs and nothing more.

Mark
The timescales involved in testing 5 coolers meant that we either had to choose to do it all on the rollers, or all on the road. We could get more consistent, repeatable results by doing it all on the rollers, so that's what we did.

Totally agree than in a 'perfect' test, we would have done both, but if we had done both, we'd have been lucky to have managed three.
Old 01-01-2009, 09:38 AM
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we have had a peak winter test perhaps a peak summer test would have been better
intercooler efficiency ambient air temp 20 deg C and 30deg C
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Originally Posted by col cos1
cant wait to see how my car does now with the gen rs500 cooler welded to the pro alloy one

i was running pace before and was not getting good act`s on the rollers

Col

I have to ask why the hell you have done this when a gen 500 cooler will run big BHP without any mods

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when we used to race the rs500's on a warm uk day we used to see act of 65degc
when we raced them abroad act was 70 C+, wt was 110 C+ keeping them cool in ambients over 35deg c was a major problem
Old 01-01-2009, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
when we used to race the rs500's on a warm uk day we used to see act of 65degc
when we raced them abroad act was 70 C+, wt was 110 C+ keeping them cool in ambients over 35deg c was a major problem
I can see you point Tony, But what i cannot understand is all the Malta (high power cossies) run either bodged intercoolers ie two welded together or std ones claiming loads of power WTFwould it be down to running such low c/r ratios to keep temps down??

I read in one of the mags a Mk2 escort runninga 4x4 cooler claiming a 430 bhp figure

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Old 01-01-2009, 10:27 AM
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malta is a very small place and the cars are only flat out for 10 secs before they run out of road
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Originally Posted by Jay.
why do you feel the need to weld a perfectly good 500 cooler to a very lesser item rod tarry never has ?

and tbh i cant see how pro alloy cam out on top as every big horse cossie running a proalloy cooler has to have the intercooler modified to death to get it to work
Is rod running a ah cooler now?
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Originally Posted by james kiely
Is rod running a ah cooler now?
Not yet but the plan is to test one.

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Old 01-01-2009, 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Tony S Mannock
malta is a very small place and the cars are only flat out for 10 secs before they run out of road
Bloody hell , Malta is 13 miles across , must take them a long time to get flat out if they can only hold it for 10 secs
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Originally Posted by Jay.
why do you feel the need to weld a perfectly good 500 cooler to a very lesser item rod tarry never has ?

and tbh i cant see how pro alloy cam out on top as every big horse cossie running a proalloy cooler has to have the intercooler modified to death to get it to work
Iirc col bought euans old cooler off his saph.
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Originally Posted by Jay.
and tbh i cant see how pro alloy cam out on top as every big horse cossie running a proalloy cooler has to have the intercooler modified to death to get it to work
That's because the test wasn't conducted on a "big horse cossie". It was a 'real world' average spec Cossie. We choose that car to be representative of the kind of car a reader would own, and also one who's spec was crying out for an uprated cooler. In our test the PA one came out on top.

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Old 01-01-2009, 03:48 PM
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as kev said above i bought euans cooler that ava built,and was producing great results on his car and mine wasent

so surely twice thickness can only be a good thing?
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Seemed to work for euan col.
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Originally Posted by col cos1
as kev said above i bought euans cooler that ava built,and was producing great results on his car and mine wasent

so surely twice thickness can only be a good thing?
cool col hows the car doin did you find a tuner ?
Old 08-01-2009, 02:44 PM
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Hi, I can't buy this magazine in Ukraine but very intresting for me which advantages has worst of tested rs500 coolers compared with 4x4 cooler? Can anyone put the scan of this test here for foreign cosie users? It is really useful info
Thanks!
Old 08-01-2009, 04:18 PM
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i hope that cooler was cheap col
Old 08-01-2009, 06:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Jay.
cool col hows the car doin did you find a tuner ?

how do you mean jay?


kev nothings cheap you know that
Old 09-02-2009, 01:59 PM
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Was the test done with the front bumper installed?
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Originally Posted by Mathias
Was the test done with the front bumper installed?
yes
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