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Old 25-12-2008, 08:42 PM
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Default Fiesta/Escort V6 conversions???

Anyone successfully made one of them? I know the old Escort conversions made by Gartrac using 2.8 cologne or 2.9 24V and rear wheel drive. I wanted to know something about 2.5 24V Duratec engines (Modeo) or 3.0 Duratec ST220 with FWD which are on the road... Seen some photos of builds yet, but never a completed car after all.
Old 25-12-2008, 08:45 PM
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I've put a Vectra V6 in a ka, the vectra lump is much compacter than the mondeo lump, the mondeo engine would not have fitted the Ka so I'm not sure if it'll fit a fiesta bay

I'm not on my PC with photos of the build but I have couple of videos here clicky
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dont think many peolple bother with it as they're not popular to tune and would handle like a bag of milk
i put a v6 in a corsa once and it was just to front end heavy, don't recommend it
better with a 2 litre xe
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i think it's something to do with the fact that they don't work long way round for some reason

might be something to do with the inlet or something, but i've seen one in a sierra, from america, with them adjustable top mount things, some fella on here owns it, rainbird might know who as he's done some suspension stuff from him
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who sang the song lol!!!!!!

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=EmGgaoazhnU
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That's absolutely my thought. Too heavy, less tuning potential, only a few tuning parts available and less power compared to a CVH turbo, a Zetec or a Duratec... But some people here think engine capacity is the only way to go... But when there's no conversion in UK (without strict regulations for public road use like here) they might see it has some reasons no one ever done this...
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theres a st v6 in some horrible looking yellow cabriolet ive seen at shows but from what i remember is it has alot of modding/fabricating to make fit
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Ive seen that cabby it was at the rs national day at rockingham last year.I love the way the engine has been put in but the rest of the car looks shit.
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Originally Posted by Glenny Boy
Ive seen that cabby it was at the rs national day at rockingham last year.I love the way the engine has been put in but the rest of the car looks shit.
it use to have a tail piece on the exhaust that looked like part of a millitary gun which spun lol
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xr2.... sorry if i misunderstood you,ford put v6 engines in mk1 escorts and cortinas mk 2, gartrac did 4x4 escort mk3's and 4's they were called escort g3 and g4 and g4x4. if you want cheap just convert a mk3 or 4 escort with a sierra and put a big v8 in it.
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The yellow cab is the only one I know of...... suprised it's so uncommon considering how often it's done in Vaux-world.

My V6 Alfa 155 handles great and it's lump is huge! Quite a few of them end up in 145s too with good results.....
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ford did a very few 2.5 v6 mk7 escorts, ive been in a police saloon (what everyone else would call a orion) one (yes i was a bad boy so got a free ride )and ive seen a estate one for sale once think it was a ghia x
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Originally Posted by Northants Ford Fan
ford did a very few 2.5 v6 mk7 escorts, ive been in a police saloon (what everyone else would call a orion) one (yes i was a bad boy so got a free ride )and ive seen a estate one for sale once think it was a ghia x
They arrested you and then gave you a guided tour under the bonnet?
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Theres a mk2 Fiesta van on another forum with a 2.5 mondeo V6 thats FWD
Old 26-12-2008, 11:33 AM
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Why not use the 2.3 duratec? Turbo it, should go alright
Old 26-12-2008, 11:36 AM
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look for the Vr6 Mk3 fiesta on youtube....
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Originally Posted by Ade
They arrested you and then gave you a guided tour under the bonnet?

got chatting with the copper about it as i saw the v6 badge on the back, and he said when its empty it did shift but will all the stuff they have to carry in it slows it down a fair bit again, the copper was actually a decent one for a change
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Originally Posted by XRT_si
Theres a mk2 Fiesta van on another forum with a 2.5 mondeo V6 thats FWD

cool, got a link?
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top boss did a 2.5V6 into a mk3 escort
the slam panel was about 4 inches slimmer than it left the factory as the engine sat so far forwards

putting it in the other way around and making it rwd and you might as well use a much better opeiotn in the shape of some of the japanese engines with V8's in them
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ST engine as far as i know is the base for nobles? so you can get a fair bit of power from them:P
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Originally Posted by dojj
top boss did a 2.5V6 into a mk3 escort
the slam panel was about 4 inches slimmer than it left the factory as the engine sat so far forwards

putting it in the other way around and making it rwd and you might as well use a much better opeiotn in the shape of some of the japanese engines with V8's in them
Would be better off just mid mounting it same as a Noble then!
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Originally Posted by Ade
Would be better off just mid mounting it same as a Noble then!
like this one

https://passionford.com/forum/showth...ighlight=noble
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Default v6 mk1 fiesta

Hi,I'm new here, I know you guys have been looking for a v6 fiesta so I thought I'd go one better and stuff one in a mk1 fez and leave it fwd.how do I attach picture,
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All you need is a grinder, welder,time, lots of patients, fabrication skills, a load of spare cash,and a stupid bet with a friend that it won't fit and I'm sure you'll find a way lol
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Fooke that looks tight. I hope the car will handle ok. Are them engines heavy.
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Not really. They are all ally and the rad n battery in the boot, rather than me hijack this thread if you look on my thread youll se a few more pics and info on what iv done to counter act the potential understeer
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Originally Posted by Northants Ford Fan
ford did a very few 2.5 v6 mk7 escorts, ive been in a police saloon (what everyone else would call a orion) one (yes i was a bad boy so got a free ride )and ive seen a estate one for sale once think it was a ghia x
Ford didn't make a mk7 Escort. Mk6 was the last then the Focus took over.

Having enjoyed helping with the sod of a job fitting an ST170 motor into mk6 Escort I'm just not sure why Ford would bother when they had the I4 motor that was tried and tested and available
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Just seen how old this is. Doh!
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Originally Posted by Oranoco
Just seen how old this is. Doh!


Well its had a bump! Pretty neat looking fiesta too!
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There's a few more pics of my fez on my post.im just finishing the air ducting in the boot today n nearly cut me finger off with the grinder, now it really is blood sweat n tears lol
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Get a thread going on it in the resto section
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