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Old 25-11-2008, 06:23 PM
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Left some 2k in mine and its kinda scrap now So i'm looking around for a cheap usable replacement. What's the advantages/disadvantages between a suction and a gravity fed gun? Also, is there any extra gun requirements when using 2k? I never had any trouble running 2k through my old gun but as I know no better to compare with, it kinda makes sense to ask those in know Also, noticed some dodgy looking electric guns??? These worth thinking about or are they in the same league as electric superchargers?

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Originally Posted by cossie604
Left some 2k in mine and its kinda scrap now So i'm looking around for a cheap usable replacement. What's the advantages/disadvantages between a suction and a gravity fed gun? Also, is there any extra gun requirements when using 2k? I never had any trouble running 2k through my old gun but as I know no better to compare with, it kinda makes sense to ask those in know Also, noticed some dodgy looking electric guns??? These worth thinking about or are they in the same league as electric superchargers?

Cheers,
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christ, how many times has the old spray gun thread come up

There is no right or wrong gun, its more what you prefer, i use suction mostly as its just easier to get the paint in to and "feels" better, but i use a gravity for the roof as there is less chance of drips and scraping the gun on the roof.

I take it buy your description you dont care too much for your tools, cleaning your tools is one of the most important things you can do.

Im also assuming you arnt using an air fed mask? when you should be for 2k, but thats your problem if your not!

Id say as your too lazy to even clean your gun then just go buy a cheap and cheerful from machine mart of screw fix and throw it away when your done

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How much you looking to spend on one?
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blimey, you're in the doghouse with Mr Ivatt
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get a hvlp gun they work much better

gravity fed are what im used to i have all devilbis guns of different types for painting and a cheep 50
quidder for primmer
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Originally Posted by ballin
blimey, you're in the doghouse with Mr Ivatt
Sorry just annoys me when people dont look after their tools.

Wastes time and money, and can ruin the next job you come to.

The amount of tools ive lent to guys on site, or mates who you trust and they come back broken!!

was more positive critcism i was giving
Old 25-11-2008, 06:45 PM
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Originally Posted by jacko
get a hvlp gun they work much better

gravity fed are what im used to i have all devilbis guns of different types for painting and a cheep 50
quidder for primmer
+1
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if you want realy posh sata jet 3000 getting one just for laquer the atamisation is unreal
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Originally Posted by ballin
blimey, you're in the doghouse with Mr Ivatt

Aint I just

Sorry that I didnt clean the gun, tbh I couldnt be arsed as when I last used it I had had enough of the job I was on so thought fuck it and chucked it in the garage corner and let my works paint shop do it for me .....if it was one of my trade tools (mechanic with just short of 20k worth of top kit) then I would have treated it like one of those bits of kit ie with care insted of treating it like the disposable tool it was (it came free with me compressor ffs). Air fed mask was on loan from a friend last job I did in 2k...to which, you'll be glad to hear, I fully cleaned prior to its return. In reference to 'christ how many times has this come up' etc....going by the 'similar' threads bit at the bottom I'd say it hasnt come up for 18mnths, sorry if my memory is lacking
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hvlp is the way forward IF you have the gear for it
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Originally Posted by jacko
get a hvlp gun they work much better

gravity fed are what im used to i have all devilbis guns of different types for painting and a cheep 50
quidder for primmer

TBH mate I was only looking to spend around Ł50 for a gun, I only do little bits that aint really shown or just little bits that need dusting after a repair. Any more and it goes in the paint shop....dont enjoy painting at all, find it very frustrating and slow as a result of being crap at it Will look into hvlp then, cheers fella
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Originally Posted by cossie604
Aint I just

Sorry that I didnt clean the gun, tbh I couldnt be arsed as when I last used it I had had enough of the job I was on so thought fuck it and chucked it in the garage corner and let my works paint shop do it for me .....if it was one of my trade tools (mechanic with just short of 20k worth of top kit) then I would have treated it like one of those bits of kit ie with care insted of treating it like the disposable tool it was (it came free with me compressor ffs). Air fed mask was on loan from a friend last job I did in 2k...to which, you'll be glad to hear, I fully cleaned prior to its return. In reference to 'christ how many times has this come up' etc....going by the 'similar' threads bit at the bottom I'd say it hasnt come up for 18mnths, sorry if my memory is lacking
well dont do it again

just had a mate ruin a compressor and 2 guns i lent him!! so im a little bitter still !

nice to hear your masked up also
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pay some one to do it for you! ya tight git
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you will need a big power compressor to cope with hvlp,
Old 25-11-2008, 06:53 PM
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sealy do a hvlp gravity gun that is both good and cheep think it around what your spending mate its gold with a white plastic top
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http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/__devil...iQQ_trksidZm38

we use the devillbiss gti's at work. bloody good gun's. our apprentice left laquer in his one for 2 week's when he was away at collage. we all had a laugh about that. but the jammy bugger took it home an managed to get it cleaned out. still seemed to work ok after it aswell.
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
you will need a big power compressor to cope with hvlp,
why? HVLP = high volume, low pressure!
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
you will need a big power compressor to cope with hvlp,
he only doing small parts mate so should be fine realy just in this weather keep your compressor emptied of watter
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matt, yes, try feeding high volume from a normal run of the mill home compressor.... you empty the tank in seconds lol

when i converted over to hvlp, we even used larger bore airlines etc

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what you painting stu? might do you a nice favour or lend you my gun! (Devilbiss GTI Pro Clear T2)
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Originally Posted by cossie690
http://shop.ebay.co.uk/items/__devil...iQQ_trksidZm38

we use the devillbiss gti's at work. bloody good gun's. our apprentice left laquer in his one for 2 week's when he was away at collage. we all had a laugh about that. but the jammy bugger took it home an managed to get it cleaned out. still seemed to work ok after it aswell.
dont matter how bad it looks take the top off some nitromorse and stick the gun in it
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Originally Posted by jacko
dont matter how bad it looks take the top off some nitromorse and stick the gun in it
might have to mind about that. just incase!!
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its a ten times better job when its clinical clean aplication
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if you want to spend Ł50 odd, on a budget gun, i would use the sealey gold seal, i use it for primer, and it seems ok for a cheapy.
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Originally Posted by Lee Ivatt
well dont do it again

just had a mate ruin a compressor and 2 guns i lent him!! so im a little bitter still !

nice to hear your masked up also
A mate aquired the mask kit for when he sprayed up his dodge charger at home and that was alot of painting So came in handy for me

Originally Posted by cozzymatt
pay some one to do it for you! ya tight git
Bugger off Its just little bits and bobs, any thing I want looking decent goes to the paint shop...cant be arsed wasting time trying to do something I know will end up looking cack at the end of it This is normaly just bits and bobs.

Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF
you will need a big power compressor to cope with hvlp,
I'm buggered on that front then Cant remember the lung capacity of my compressor but it aint exactly a big-un. Have another friend with a bloody big compressor in his home workshop round the corner...wonder if he wants to chip in on a decent spray gun...hmmmm
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got some nice cheap thing up SAS Stu for Ł20 iirc... if its only for little bits you cant go wrong mate...
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Good god you lot type fast Will look into this here sealy gold seal jobby then Cheers guys
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sealey-Profess...1%7C240%3A1318
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Originally Posted by cozzymatt
got some nice cheap thing up SAS Stu for Ł20 iirc... if its only for little bits you cant go wrong mate...

Aint gonna happen mate I briefly worked as an MOT tester for a little place in Ashby some years ago, they officialy went into liquidation as I was half way through a MOT, was told to finish the test then go home. Later that afternoon the owners of SAS were knocking on my parents door, they gave me a load of shit for not warning them that said place was going under?! Like I was to know that they owed SAS a fair few grand and also what the fuck has to do with me anyhows? Went in SAS a few weeks later and they point blank refused me trade...not been back since.
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or maybe this is more your style

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sealey-SG139-A...1%7C240%3A1318


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Looks spot-on...cheers mate I looked on ebay before posting up on here but the choice left me bewildered, hence asking for info from you people
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Originally Posted by JTECHSAFF

Ah, ive got one of them.....i'll use that insted Put the paint on nice and thick, flat it back with some 80grit and should ready for a quick buff with some G3 yeah?
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i have the gold sealey gun as my weapon of choice when it comes to primmer and infact i was using it today on a volvo tractor unit im repairing but for actual painting i like using suction feed guns
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these are prety descent
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Sealey-Profess...QQcmdZViewItem
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the above gun is ideal if you dont want to spend much money and still do a cracking job

also these too

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FIAC-EAGLE-SUC...1%7C240%3A1318
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So the whole suction/gravity thing is all just personal preference? Means I'd have to buy both to gain a preference though
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i'd deffo go gravity fed m8. there far easier to hold and work with.
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I bought one of these to do a few odd jobs with and found it so good I ended up doing whole panels inc 2k laquer finishes - lovely atomisation and spray pattern

http://www.screwfix.com/prods/67516/...Gold-Spray-Gun

ran it of a 3hp 50 litre 240v home compressor as well no problem
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Devil bliss mate they are a great gun. Check out my 'alloys refurb' thread i did them with my devil bliss.
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Originally Posted by cossie604
Aint gonna happen mate I briefly worked as an MOT tester for a little place in Ashby some years ago, they officialy went into liquidation as I was half way through a MOT, was told to finish the test then go home. Later that afternoon the owners of SAS were knocking on my parents door, they gave me a load of shit for not warning them that said place was going under?! Like I was to know that they owed SAS a fair few grand and also what the fuck has to do with me anyhows? Went in SAS a few weeks later and they point blank refused me trade...not been back since.
Lol, tossers, Sorry but I would of had to laugh at them....


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