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23-11-2008, 05:16 PM
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i can understand you may get on very well with Ash, but being the 'rs500 registrar' YOU should know all about this car.
well, i would think that you or Darren would know of most of the rs500 cars that are about and know the 'bad apples' out there.
23-11-2008, 05:22 PM
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yes this is my old car.yes it has been re-shelled-there is no number in the shell(or wasnt when i sold it).,and i would say it has never had a number in it ever.however i had the stamped up floor piece from the original shell,which went to the new owner.
i spent a few quid on it over the time as it was standard when i bought it-very quick car.
its a good spec,quick car in decent condition-but never worth big,big money.
i spent a few quid on it over the time as it was standard when i bought it-very quick car.
its a good spec,quick car in decent condition-but never worth big,big money.
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23-11-2008, 05:29 PM
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Hi dave i am sure between paul & i we do indeed know most cars out there , but it's not for us to comment as that would not be fair to the owner ,hence the ask the owner comment , it's fair enough that previous owners of the car comment as they use to own it .
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23-11-2008, 05:32 PM
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when i sold it i told the new keeper all about its history that i was aware of............the big power engine was not an rs500 one,but i gave him the rs500 bottom end with the car.
sadly it looks like he is chosing not to-if he was a bit more honest he would probably sell it(if he wasnt being so greedy!).
sadly it looks like he is chosing not to-if he was a bit more honest he would probably sell it(if he wasnt being so greedy!).
23-11-2008, 05:39 PM
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like i said before....and Jay has cleared things up now(and i think 99.9%of people in here think he's trustworthy!) this car is an over priced re shelled RS500....end of!!
23-11-2008, 05:42 PM
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so ,lets get this right.
It is a re shell, and it dont have the original rs500 engine???
so basicly i could buy an rs500 id of some one breaking one,spend 1k on some rear spoilers and call mine a 500 lol, because according to this you dont need the numbers in the floor or the engine to constitute owning a 500.
So if outlay a couple of K i could make my car worth 10k more lol,,, sounds like a plan
It is a re shell, and it dont have the original rs500 engine???
so basicly i could buy an rs500 id of some one breaking one,spend 1k on some rear spoilers and call mine a 500 lol, because according to this you dont need the numbers in the floor or the engine to constitute owning a 500.
So if outlay a couple of K i could make my car worth 10k more lol,,, sounds like a plan
23-11-2008, 05:46 PM
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I do know all about this car
what is wrong is that people are talking about it that DONT , and the fact they havent asked is whats wrong I know the topic starter wasnt trying to have a go it was a simple question , its all this bollocks about it not being a 500 if its been reshelled that does me in
If it or any other 500 has been reshelled into a brand new shell it will still retain its origonal ID and that will still make it a 500 , only if it carries another ID will it not be a 500
23-11-2008, 05:55 PM
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but if the car was sold with the rs500 block along with the car-it is still altogether an rs500,which could easily have the correct block re-fitted.
if he isnt selling it with the correct bottom end,then that would be a different story.
its always going to be a lower end of the market rs500(which is how i valued it when i bought/sold it).problem is establishing where the bottom end of the market is,especially as time goes on and they become rarer.
maybe 17k or so is bottom end money now...........
i would personally refit the bottom end,sell the big spec motor seperate and then sell the car as a complete rs500.
if he isnt selling it with the correct bottom end,then that would be a different story.
its always going to be a lower end of the market rs500(which is how i valued it when i bought/sold it).problem is establishing where the bottom end of the market is,especially as time goes on and they become rarer.
maybe 17k or so is bottom end money now...........
i would personally refit the bottom end,sell the big spec motor seperate and then sell the car as a complete rs500.
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23-11-2008, 05:56 PM
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I quess it has mate , the problem is that it isnt my place to say anything about somones car unless to a potential buyer so i couldnt say what i knew about the car , even more so on an open forum
the car still retains the origonal 500 id tho so is still a 500 no matter what has happened to it
the fact that it has a 200 block does affect its value tho , BUT as the std 500 bottom end is supplied with it , you realy are getting everything 500 , its value tho is what somone is willing to pay , same as with any other car
23-11-2008, 05:59 PM
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I do know all about this car what is wrong is that people are talking about it that DONT , and the fact they havent asked is whats wrong
I know the topic starter wasnt trying to have a go it was a simple question , its all this bollocks about it not being a 500 if its been reshelled that does me in
If it or any other 500 has been reshelled into a brand new shell it will still retain its origonal ID and that will still make it a 500 , only if it carries another ID will it not be a 500
I do know all about this car
what is wrong is that people are talking about it that DONT , and the fact they havent asked is whats wrong I know the topic starter wasnt trying to have a go it was a simple question , its all this bollocks about it not being a 500 if its been reshelled that does me in
If it or any other 500 has been reshelled into a brand new shell it will still retain its origonal ID and that will still make it a 500 , only if it carries another ID will it not be a 500
so,how many cars(500's) like this have you bought?....and would you buy this one to KEEP,and not to break???
If i was a keen buyer looking for a RS500 and i contacted the registrar(you) about the above mentioned car..i take it you would give it the thumbs up then????????????????...and the idea that you agree that it would be a 13k breaker tells me ALL i need to know,if it was a genuine car you would never even contemplate such a thing!!
23-11-2008, 06:01 PM
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i think the be-all and end-all is that the car has a bit of history-just like a lot of cars out there.
however its solid,fast and has potentially all the correct rs500 parts with it.
and its worth what someone will pay........good luck to him.i got what i needed for it,maybe he will too.
however its solid,fast and has potentially all the correct rs500 parts with it.
and its worth what someone will pay........good luck to him.i got what i needed for it,maybe he will too.
23-11-2008, 06:05 PM
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so,how many cars(500's) like this have you bought?....and would you buy this one to KEEP,and not to break???
If i was a keen buyer looking for a RS500 and i contacted the registrar(you) about the above mentioned car..i take it you would give it the thumbs up then????????????????...and the idea that you agree that it would be a 13k breaker tells me ALL i need to know,if it was a genuine car you would never even contemplate such a thing!!
If i was a keen buyer looking for a RS500 and i contacted the registrar(you) about the above mentioned car..i take it you would give it the thumbs up then????????????????...and the idea that you agree that it would be a 13k breaker tells me ALL i need to know,if it was a genuine car you would never even contemplate such a thing!!
If you contacted me ( on the phone ) not on a forum as a buyer i would have told you everything i know about this car and told you
1, what I feel its true value is
2, everything i know about the car , good and bad points
3, what i thought it was worth as a min ( ie its value as parts )
4, what to look for regards correct parts
5, if i thought this was a car that meets with what you would want out of you 500 ( ie , as an investment or just a daily driver )
23-11-2008, 06:06 PM
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I quess it has mate , the problem is that it isnt my place to say anything about somones car unless to a potential buyer so i couldnt say what i knew about the car , even more so on an open forum
the car still retains the origonal 500 id tho so is still a 500 no matter what has happened to it
the fact that it has a 200 block does affect its value tho , BUT as the std 500 bottom end is supplied with it , you realy are getting everything 500 , its value tho is what somone is willing to pay , same as with any other car
the car still retains the origonal 500 id tho so is still a 500 no matter what has happened to it
the fact that it has a 200 block does affect its value tho , BUT as the std 500 bottom end is supplied with it , you realy are getting everything 500 , its value tho is what somone is willing to pay , same as with any other car
Very true fella!
23-11-2008, 06:13 PM
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Na am probs way off mark here like but surely if this car is reshelled to stay a 500 it wud have to be reshelled in a 500 shell wi 500 id in the floor to make it a real 500 as it left the factory, And not a set of numbers off original 500 they come off say in a 3 door shell or motorsport shell.would i be wrong saying that?
23-11-2008, 06:13 PM
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Na am probs way off mark here like but surely if this car is reshelled to stay a 500 it wud have to be reshelled in a 500 shell wi 500 id in the floor to make it a real 500 as it left the factory, And not a set of numbers off original 500 they come off say in a 3 door shell or motorsport shell.would i be wrong saying that?
23-11-2008, 06:18 PM
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Na am probs way off mark here like but surely if this car is reshelled to stay a 500 it wud have to be reshelled in a 500 shell wi 500 id in the floor to make it a real 500 as it left the factory, And not a set of numbers off original 500 they come off say in a 3 door shell or motorsport shell.would i be wrong saying that?
if the car was reshelled into a NEW shell then it will retain its origonal ID and that will make it still a 500 If reshelled into another USED shell then the car will have the logbook of that shell so then wont be a 500 , it will be whatever that logbook says
simple realy
And for those that dont know , A 500 shell is exactly the same as a std 3 door shell , due to the fact that ALL rs500"S started life as a std 3 door and went to tickford to be stripped and rebuilt into a rs500
23-11-2008, 06:23 PM
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17.5k for a daily driver?......look around you can buy FAR better than this for that money...FACT!...and that is all i'm going to say on the matter
I can remember a post in this forum where a RS500 was left under a barn roof that a rich owner had just kind of forgotten about.....you were practically wanting to save(rescue) it!..unlike this car thats been for sale for AGES!...maybe not the same thing,BUT...i can't see you parting with your cash for the above mentioned car!
I just think it should be advertised appropiatley....imagine a genuine buyer that bought that car and then came in here or the RSOC BB and was then subjected to all these home truths about this car??.......would you want that????????
......look around you can buy FAR better than this for that money...FACT!...and that is all i'm going to say on the matterI can remember a post in this forum where a RS500 was left under a barn roof that a rich owner had just kind of forgotten about.....you were practically wanting to save(rescue) it!..unlike this car thats been for sale for AGES!...maybe not the same thing,BUT...i can't see you parting with your cash for the above mentioned car!
I just think it should be advertised appropiatley....imagine a genuine buyer that bought that car and then came in here or the RSOC BB and was then subjected to all these home truths about this car??.......would you want that????????
23-11-2008, 06:28 PM
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17.5k for a daily driver?......look around you can buy FAR better than this for that money...FACT!...and that is all i'm going to say on the matter
I can remember a post in this forum where a RS500 was left under a barn roof that a rich owner had just kind of forgotten about.....you were practically wanting to save(rescue) it!..unlike this car thats been for sale for AGES!...maybe not the same thing,BUT...i can't see you parting with your cash for the above mentioned car!
I just think it should be advertised appropiatley....imagine a genuine buyer that bought that car and then came in here or the RSOC BB and was then subjected to all these home truths about this car??.......would you want that????????
......look around you can buy FAR better than this for that money...FACT!...and that is all i'm going to say on the matterI can remember a post in this forum where a RS500 was left under a barn roof that a rich owner had just kind of forgotten about.....you were practically wanting to save(rescue) it!..unlike this car thats been for sale for AGES!...maybe not the same thing,BUT...i can't see you parting with your cash for the above mentioned car!
I just think it should be advertised appropiatley....imagine a genuine buyer that bought that car and then came in here or the RSOC BB and was then subjected to all these home truths about this car??.......would you want that????????
who would be stupid enough to part with any amount of cash without doing there homework first I am always willing to help anyone wanting to buy / sell or just want info on rs500"s
Sadly we cant control how anyone advertises there car for sale ,and for what price , all we can do is offer advice where and when we can and hope that the buyer and seller have a deal there both happy with
Just a shame the mods on here have removed my contact phone numbers so people can contact me quicker should they need advice before handing over ther hard earned
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23-11-2008, 06:35 PM
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Thats why there are registrars mate who would be stupid enough to part with any amount of cash without doing there homework first
I am always willing to help anyone wanting to buy / sell or just want info on rs500"s
Sadly we cant control how anyone advertises there car for sale ,and for what price , all we can do is offer advice where and when we can and hope that the buyer and seller have a deal there both happy with
Just a shame the mods on here have removed my contact phone numbers so people can contact me quicker should they need advice before handing over ther hard earned
who would be stupid enough to part with any amount of cash without doing there homework first I am always willing to help anyone wanting to buy / sell or just want info on rs500"s
Sadly we cant control how anyone advertises there car for sale ,and for what price , all we can do is offer advice where and when we can and hope that the buyer and seller have a deal there both happy with
Just a shame the mods on here have removed my contact phone numbers so people can contact me quicker should they need advice before handing over ther hard earned
23-11-2008, 06:57 PM
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FFS....i dont know how you can be bothered paul, this post has confirmed...best way to sell a cossie is in bits....no matter how nice it is
saves on blood pressure going through the roof dealing with all the "experts"
ROFLOL @ it not being a 500 even though its been reshelled into a brand new factory shell
, this post has confirmed...best way to sell a cossie is in bits....no matter how nice it issaves on blood pressure going through the roof dealing with all the "experts"
ROFLOL @ it not being a 500 even though its been reshelled into a brand new factory shell
23-11-2008, 07:32 PM
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FFS....i dont know how you can be bothered paul, this post has confirmed...best way to sell a cossie is in bits....no matter how nice it is
saves on blood pressure going through the roof dealing with all the "experts"
ROFLOL @ it not being a 500 even though its been reshelled into a brand new factory shell
, this post has confirmed...best way to sell a cossie is in bits....no matter how nice it issaves on blood pressure going through the roof dealing with all the "experts"
ROFLOL @ it not being a 500 even though its been reshelled into a brand new factory shell
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