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Old 17-11-2008, 03:56 PM
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How fooking ugly? This better improve the racing, else il be switching off!
Old 17-11-2008, 03:57 PM
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Yey, back to basics
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look shite,but hopefully will make the racing better!!!should keep big wings,but have a limit on how much angle u can have on them
Old 17-11-2008, 04:06 PM
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they won't look much like that when it all kicks off though.
Old 17-11-2008, 04:07 PM
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Back to full slicks though!
seems they do one thing to slow them down a little, and one to speed them back up again LOL
Old 17-11-2008, 04:09 PM
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i actually quite like them, never been a fan of the hundreds of little winglets all over the old ones
Old 17-11-2008, 04:11 PM
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The curvey sidepods look great with no flip ups on them but the front wing looks a mess. I rekon there could be alot of breakages early in the season
Old 17-11-2008, 04:14 PM
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for a start, that front wing is illegal anyway
Old 17-11-2008, 04:19 PM
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lol why would they test an ilegal front wing, have you not read the new rules?
Old 17-11-2008, 04:21 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Rst
they won't look much like that when it all kicks off though.
Sadly the rear wings will. Theres a max width/height rule. And given theres no barge boards wingelts etc allowed I suspect the fronts wont be too dissimilar.
Old 17-11-2008, 04:23 PM
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Slicks = yes
Aero = ugly as a mother hubbard.
Old 17-11-2008, 04:44 PM
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I had to check the date as when I saw that I though I was in the mid 80's.
Old 17-11-2008, 05:03 PM
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fugly front wings, the first pic looks too small, like a gp2 size car or something. But they will not look much like that come march 29th next tear
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Originally Posted by orion_crazy_carl
look shite,but hopefully will make the racing better!!!should keep big wings,but have a limit on how much angle u can have on them
There was uck all wrong with the racing this year FFS... 7 different winners.

its a recipe to fuck it all up again if you ask me.
Old 17-11-2008, 05:18 PM
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was a good season,but same ole same,stuck behind cars no downforce ect ect
Old 17-11-2008, 05:25 PM
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what the new mclaren look like
Old 17-11-2008, 06:29 PM
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Thats f**king ugly
Old 17-11-2008, 06:47 PM
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The whole point of the new cars is to give back the mechanical grip, and take away most of the downforce producing aero package, to firstly make the cars easier to drive, as they won't be as dependant on downforce for thier corner speed, and to make it easier to overtake as the chasing car won't be in as much "dirty/turbulant" air.

Should have done it years ago, more like 800BHP go-karts now, the racing will be a lot closer I think, especially the tail-enders as the HUGE cost of aero R&D will be greatly reduced
Old 17-11-2008, 07:12 PM
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F1 should be the pinnacle of motorsport. With all the big money that goes into it.
Old 17-11-2008, 07:20 PM
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do they ever look nice?
Old 17-11-2008, 07:22 PM
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anyone explain how the fancy power boost system works?
Old 17-11-2008, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
anyone explain how the fancy power boost system works?
Regenarative bullshite. Generates kinetic energy underbraking.

If they use it as a ''push to pass'' that will be utter shite. Talent should be used to overtake not a fuckin boost button.

Had plenty of overtaking this year.
Old 17-11-2008, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
the HUGE cost of aero R&D will be greatly reduced

I'm not too sure it will!

All that it means is that its a clean slate for everyone, the rich will be at the front again
Old 17-11-2008, 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Steve Rst
I'm not too sure it will!

All that it means is that its a clean slate for everyone, the rich will be at the front again
and a risk of one team getting it right and not any others.

Should not change things this radically i dont think. Its a backwards step.
Old 17-11-2008, 07:36 PM
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Looking forward to the grid being on slicks next year, as they always should have been IMO

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Old 17-11-2008, 07:45 PM
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should go back to the days of the old mclaren when they were sparking off the floor!
Old 17-11-2008, 07:46 PM
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is it jst me that thinks the front looks photoshopped? it doesnt look like it points the way the car is?
Old 17-11-2008, 09:33 PM
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Originally Posted by RWD_cossie_wil
Should have done it years ago, more like 800BHP go-karts now, the racing will be a lot closer I think, especially the tail-enders as the HUGE cost of aero R&D will be greatly reduced

Sadly thats not the case. If you want the grid to get closer to each other. You need technical stability. Which we've had more or less (Save for engine & gearbox lifespan) for a good few years now. Thats why teams like Toro Rosso can make such gains in the last 2 years.

Its when the rules change like next year that the teams have to go and spend a large percentage of their income researching new technology and how to get the best from it. KERS is horrendously expensive introduction. In fact Ferrari (and possibly McLaren depending on how their recent tie in with a 3rd party company goes) won't even have it next year! Ineveitably the less well funded teams can't afford to throw miney at it. So come March next year, they'll be behind again trying deperately to make time up.


Williams looks fairly similar.
Old 17-11-2008, 09:52 PM
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These look better

Old 17-11-2008, 09:58 PM
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I agree, I love all the little details on the car. The flip ups, shows real ingenuity and progression. And that to me is what F1 is about.

These new cars look like a F3 car wing stuck on a 1996 F1 car.
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As mentioned already they do look really strange but it was the same when they raised the front wing endplate a few years ago, increased the minimum size of the rear end plate & especially when they changed to the current narrow track/grooved tire rules - to my eyes they all looked terrible! After a few races we'll get used to it i'm sure, plus the aero packages will change a lot before march.

The new regulations have been well thought out as they tested with 2 cars in the wind tunnel to try reduce the effects of turbulence on a following car.

KERS is actually optional for next year, Autosport reckon teams may use it at some tracks and not at others depending on how the 60kg (total weight of the energy recovery system) affects the car.

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