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Old 13-11-2008, 05:55 PM
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Default 99 turkish block wot sort of power

just wonderin if anyone out there has the 99 block and what sort of power there good for i know the big power cars like yum had problems with these so wot sort of power will they take realistically

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Old 13-11-2008, 05:56 PM
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some one was saying issues after 400, on here the other day
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mark shead posted a while ago saying that they were ok to 500 ish just wondered if anyone is running around this sort of power on one
Old 13-11-2008, 06:15 PM
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400 is fine
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why risk it if you want big'ish power? just get a non turkish one?
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Originally Posted by LHD220Turbo
why risk it if you want big'ish power? just get a non turkish one?
lookin for high 4's low 500 bhp only askin as i have a new block bought before it became apparent it was a problem so just lookin for a few different views really
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Originally Posted by big mac
lookin for high 4's low 500 bhp only askin as i have a new block bought before it became apparent it was a problem so just lookin for a few different views really
personally mate; i wouldnt chance it

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I had 476 bhp out of mine
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Originally Posted by Si B
I had 476 bhp out of mine
And that was running liners on no 2 and no 4 - not Nikasil ones, just normal engine machine shop liners.

So much hype out there over what works and what doesn't.

470 odd bhp was plenty!

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How can you identify a turkish block? The engine with turkish blocks that have failed have had huge torque and power! In the real world with people like me on a tight budget,i dont think we would have a problem as we wont be getting these figures,my aim is 500hp,then il be happy.
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435 and no problems!
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Originally Posted by Si B
And that was running liners on no 2 and no 4 - not Nikasil ones, just normal engine machine shop liners.

So much hype out there over what works and what doesn't.

470 odd bhp was plenty!

Si
yeah i agree with that there is alot of hype and if i can get 470 odd i would probably be happy too be honest wot spec were you running si??
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My engine is out euans old saph that was 500 bhp at the wheels on turkish block it was fine & still is
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how much to liner them if that's what's needed For crazy power?
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Not sure jimbo could answer this or mark shead cant mind how much andrew said it was.Putting liners in a turkish block is a defo no no.
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472 in mine on .5 bore. 4k miles all is good its been off the clock a few times so has been tested pretty hard.
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Originally Posted by Si B
And that was running liners on no 2 and no 4 - not Nikasil ones, just normal engine machine shop liners.

So much hype out there over what works and what doesn't.

470 odd bhp was plenty!

Si
Originally Posted by carlo
Putting liners in a turkish block is a defo no no.
Did you miss my post above? So much inaccurate 2nd hand rubbish getting posted on here.

Who told you that?

2 liners, 476 bhp, Turkish 99 Block - my personal experience says they work just fine.
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Originally Posted by Si B
Did you miss my post above? So much inaccurate 2nd hand rubbish getting posted on here.

Who told you that?

2 liners, 476 bhp, Turkish 99 Block - my personal experience says they work just fine.
wot spec were you runnin si and over how many miles ???
i paid good money for the block i have and if its useable for the sort of power i am aiming for might as well use it!! car is only a show car so odd track day and good weather drivin on the road as the 4x4 in my sig is my everyday driver
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Originally Posted by scoooby slayer
472 in mine on .5 bore. 4k miles all is good its been off the clock a few times so has been tested pretty hard.
good to hear mate !!! btw love the car looks tops
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Originally Posted by big mac
wot spec were you runnin si and over how many miles ???
i paid good money for the block i have and if its useable for the sort of power i am aiming for might as well use it!! car is only a show car so odd track day and good weather drivin on the road as the 4x4 in my sig is my everyday driver
Sorry, was going to reply to your earlier question, but you've asked again before I got a chance!

I had a T4 Turbo, Swedish style plenum, 83lb fuel injectors, a ported and tarted head from Cylinder Head Developments, remap by Stu@MSD, Cosworth racing 7.2:1 pistons and my Turkish 99 block.

Went blinkin well
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Originally Posted by Si B
Sorry, was going to reply to your earlier question, but you've asked again before I got a chance!

I had a T4 Turbo, Swedish style plenum, 83lb fuel injectors, a ported and tarted head from Cylinder Head Developments, remap by Stu@MSD, Cosworth racing 7.2:1 pistons and my Turkish 99 block.

Went blinkin well
very similar to wot i've got mate got a gt30, swedish plenium, h section rods ,mildly ported head ,still got to decide on pistons and cr
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Sorry maybe i should have made myself clearer sib..i meant nikasil liners in all cylinders
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& its hardly mislead rubbish as i know a fair few turkish blocks with nikasil liners that have failed all big power engines.
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id rather a turkish 200 than a 205 thats for sure
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Originally Posted by Si B
Sorry, was going to reply to your earlier question, but you've asked again before I got a chance!

I had a T4 Turbo, Swedish style plenum, 83lb fuel injectors, a ported and tarted head from Cylinder Head Developments, remap by Stu@MSD, Cosworth racing 7.2:1 pistons and my Turkish 99 block.

Went blinkin well

Does anyone know where to get the Cosworth racing pistons from?
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Originally Posted by sapph1
Does anyone know where to get the Cosworth racing pistons from?

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Originally Posted by col cos1
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Thanks mate, any links to their site?
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Originally Posted by col cos1
id rather a turkish 200 than a 205 thats for sure
offs colin dont bring up the 205 and power levels or we will be here all night!
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Originally Posted by Si B
And that was running liners on no 2 and no 4 - not Nikasil ones, just normal engine machine shop liners.

So much hype out there over what works and what doesn't.

470 odd bhp was plenty!

Si
It isnt hype, they fail at high bhp thats a fact.
Running up to 500bhp should be OK i guess. MADAde is running 600+ on a 99 but his was an old Block which had many heat cycles before big Power & appears OK, both the blocks that failed at MAD were new.
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It seems to be the luck of the draw with the 99 blocks, Porkies engine was based on a new 99 block and did ages at 600hp before the GT30 was fitted and is still going strong to this day.

Several of my customers cars have them too, one of which is on 91.75 bore and he uses it very hard with no signs of trouble yet. I have never had any problems with them myself but that's not to say it can't happen.
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Originally Posted by sapph1
Thanks mate, any links to their site?


mine came direct from cosworth mate
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Originally Posted by col cos1
mine came direct from cosworth mate
Ok, thanks mate
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Originally Posted by MadRod
It isnt hype, they fail at high bhp thats a fact.
Running up to 500bhp should be OK i guess. MADAde is running 600+ on a 99 but his was an old Block which had many heat cycles before big Power & appears OK, both the blocks that failed at MAD were new.
Dyno results as per siggy. Pushed very hard, on race fuel 2.58 bar boost, 2.3 bar held to 8.3k limiter, used very little oil, no water.
Drives superb on the road, savage acceleration, already blown the diff, and the gear box on last legs, both Quaife items, only done circa 1500 road miles since fitting in car!

My block had done around 10k miles and numerous 180mph+ runs, before being Nikasil linered (after last failure at '06 Daddy Thrash).

Watch this space!
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how do i know if my 1995 escort cos has a turkish block?
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Originally Posted by dom123
how do i know if my 1995 escort cos has a turkish block?
If you are running your original block I don't think you have anything to worry about.


The 'Turkish' blocks seem only to have come to prominance in the last couple of years where people have purchased them to build a new ''stronger'' engine, at a time when new 200 blocks became hard to find, and pushed them to more than double the power that Cosworth planned for them to produce.

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