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Old 15-11-2004, 09:51 PM
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bloody cars.

Think i've just fooked my Alcon 6 Paddle clutch. I take it you can't get them fixed and i have to buy a new one?

And to think i don't really give my car much abuse. How much am i looking at? Think it had a standard cover on it.

shouldnt they last a bit longer than one year? also not having a cluch go on me before, what are the symptoms? it whines really bad in 1st, 2nd, 3rd but much worse when changing down (like 3rd to 2nd).

What a crap night.

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Old 15-11-2004, 10:18 PM
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Aparantly you can get the contact surfaces re-faced or have new friction pads put on again if thats the way to word it.
Not quite sure as to where you get it done but remember there being a post not to long back about it

A year isnt bad going, my alcon paddle had about 2 - 3 months use and is was showing severe signs of cracking and wear around the edges of all the friction pads!

But it did get miss-treated in a hard way.



That also sounds more like gearbox problems/noises to me (but im no expert!)
Old 16-11-2004, 07:04 AM
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i really really really hope it's not my gearbox.....definatly dont have the money for a new one of them

Are there any tests i can do? or do i need to just take it to a garage and say "please sir....bill me"

It's not really funny as the brakes on Kims S2 just gave up so now we have no driveable cars
Old 16-11-2004, 07:13 AM
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Does sound like a box problem to me

If the clutch is slipping take the car to a steep hill and see if it will drive up it, if its knackered the rev's will rise unnecessarily and the car will struggle to get up.
Old 16-11-2004, 07:16 AM
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ok....worst case, how do i go about getting it fixed? or do i have to buy a new one?

just comming up to xmas i could really do with my car throwing a dose of PMT at me.
Old 16-11-2004, 07:29 AM
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Clutch plates can be re-lined quite easily

If its whining try checking the oil level in the box is sufficient, a bearing could be running dry ???
Old 16-11-2004, 07:31 AM
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shite paul, you dont have much luck at times do ya!
Old 16-11-2004, 07:32 AM
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Originally Posted by NUTS RuS
Clutch plates can be re-lined quite easily

If its whining try checking the oil level in the box is sufficient, a bearing could be running dry ???
Thing is i got it checked by my ford dealership last month, and i watched them take the plug out.....was definatly full!! (a little leaked out).
Old 16-11-2004, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by Rolls
shite paul, you dont have much luck at times do ya!
no

everything keeps going wrong/breaking at the moment (cars, taps, dishwasher etc)
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PMSL @ taps and dishwashers! - wana buy some nice tools so you can fix em??
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Originally Posted by Rolls
PMSL @ taps and dishwashers! - wana buy some nice tools so you can fix em??
yes
Old 29-11-2004, 12:39 PM
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not that anyone probably cares but.....

Turns out i had a faulty starter motor.

Ordered one from Woodford Garage (turned up next day as usual, top service ) and fitted it this weekend.

No need for a new clutch or gearbox As we started to remove the bell housing we noticed the casing on the starter motor was loose

Took it off and it practically fell apart

Seems the "gear part" was sticking on the fly wheel (excuse the lack of technical knowledge).

Anyway if you ever get anything like this it may be worth checking before ordering a clutch!!! (it was a lot cheap to replace).

Well happy

Just need to figure out the S2 fuel leak now
Old 29-11-2004, 12:45 PM
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Nice one, glad it was summit cheep(ish)!!!!

wheres the S2 fuel leaking from? not the tank-pump pipe is it?
Old 29-11-2004, 12:48 PM
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note for next time- clutches dont whine

gearboxes, diffs, and annoying children do
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Originally Posted by vroooom ptssssh
Nice one, glad it was summit cheep(ish)!!!!

wheres the S2 fuel leaking from? not the tank-pump pipe is it?
yes....again!!!

changed my fuel cap and thought that had fixed it....but no

the tank/hose join
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Originally Posted by Itsmeagain
note for next time- clutches dont whine

gearboxes, diffs, and annoying children do
and starter motors!!!
Old 29-11-2004, 12:53 PM
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i had the tank/hose join on my S1 problem, changed for a brand new hose, still leaked, tried it with cap off and new hose, nope.....the spout the hos egoes over wears thin, and actually lets petrol seep through, even tho it looks fine/uncorroded....i stuck a new tank in mine and it was perfect first time, not a drip. it baffled me for months till i got told what was actually happening as i never thot that could happen if it didnt look corroded!!!
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Did you check the breather? As i still need to check that.

The tank is about 2 years old
new cap (2 months ago)
New hose (today!!!)

but might buy a new tank if that would solve it. what about the pump? could a faulty pump build up pressure?

Cheers

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Old 29-11-2004, 01:44 PM
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wheres the S2 fuel leaking from? not the tank-pump pipe is it?
here we go again Mine was just down to a crappy non standard fuel cap not letting the system breath, what fuel cap have you replaced it with, standard ford one?
Old 29-11-2004, 01:46 PM
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yup...standard ford one.

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Old 29-11-2004, 01:50 PM
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hmmm, and u replaced the hose, ok, not sure on the question about a faulty pump, but if you can source / borrow one cheapish second hand then worth a try i guess

If not, could be as dave says, tank trouble, likely a hairline crack in or around the tank spout
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Ok will investiage more..... i suspect

faulty tank
blocked breather
buggered pump

can't see it being anything else



new engine, car, brakes
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pisser aint it fooking cars
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nah pump sucks and builds up pressure u wil see if u get someonme to prime the pump/start it while u look the house swells up cos it sucks the fuel into it....
breather was fine, no blockages at all. i tell y ait is the tank, wont be cracked or ought jus metal wears thin or summit and petrol seeps through under pressure, doesnt leak when u turn car off!! drips/runs down the tank, wont spray out as if their is an actual hole.
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how much are tanks?

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i got mine for Ł35 but it was off a mate who had one lying about. think i got quoted Ł60 off A.panels? see if i can find the website, but when ordering makesure its ts for EFI and MFI or it might jus be EFI, MUST have the swirl pot in it. either way jus ask for mk4 escort EFI afaik. even tho its for mfi lol
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lol efi, mfi? PMSL so MFI will be made of wood yeah? J/K
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rofl err lol, ask adam i had a mare with mine tried everything and ended up got so pissed off i jus got a new tank n stuck it on, pissing thing, worked firs time or else i wuld of torched it its not hard to do at all, heres what i done:
https://passionford.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=81549
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hmmmm your fuel pump looks very different to mine?
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It's a s1 thats why




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