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Old 23-10-2008 | 01:17 PM
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While on a brief exursion into evo territory I noticed that on the MLR they limit non paid up members to 20 posts a month.

Brilliant idea I thought, people can still use the forum FOC if they have a query that needs answering etc, and can still access lots of archived information, but anyone who wants to actually be an active part of the site is expected to pay towards its upkeep.

Seems very fair to me, although obviously they've abused it with massive profiteering on the actual membership cost itself, but thats their priviledge of course.


Do people think similar over here would be a good idea?
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:19 PM
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yeah until 99% of unpaid members don;t bother loggin in anymore.
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I'm fine with paying a little bit for the upkeep of site like this one. And I think non-paying people should have some possibility of using it, the same aas I look for information on other froums at times. Good idea I would say.
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Originally Posted by rssteve
yeah until 99% of unpaid members don;t bother loggin in anymore.
Im sure more than 1% of regular unpaid up posters would choose to pay the Ł10 quid a year to join up (which could then be further reduced in price of course if more people were paying it)

Plus they could still post anyway, just only a limited armound as they arent contributing towards the running costs.
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MLR was Ł25 though, we joined purely cos we wantd to break the car, i personally wouldnt pay to use a website unless i was getting something out of it...

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Old 23-10-2008 | 01:22 PM
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it would never work over here

jap performance car enthusiasts are used to being fleeced and when you've just lost Ł40k to your local tuner, another fiver's not going to make a huge difference

but when you've used up have your weekly electric bill signing up to passionford to post up, not a lot are going to remain and it'll go the way of interford, big site, with about 3 posts a month
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Bugger off with your wise idea's

Besides I think it would lead to tight arses like my self having multiple accounts.
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Originally Posted by Dicko&Sarah
MLR was Ł25 though, we joined purely cos we wantd to break the car, i personally wouldnt pay to use a website unless i was getting something out of it...

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35 quid I believe it is over there, Im not suggesting for a second that is a required amount for her, currnetly our membership is a tenner, and that could come down not go up IMHO as a result of a higher % of people paying up, as one of two things (or both) has to happen:
1) less posts by unpaid members means less running costs for the site
2) more people paying means less running cost per person
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I say pre-pay posting, 1p/post
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:24 PM
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Originally Posted by cossie604
Bugger off with your wise idea's

Besides I think it would lead to tight arses like my self having multiple accounts.
Multiple accounts arent allowed here even now
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
I say pre-pay posting, 1p/post
Anyone who posted a joke would get a seriously reduced number of replies, lol
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:25 PM
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well i see it as this

You are a car owner on someone elses website. Them who leave if this was to take place shows they arnt fully intrested in this/a website.

sorry but Ł10 a year is hardly nothing.
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Come on people, is 10 quid a lot in the UK? You must be joking. It is what, a meal at KFC's? And half of posts over here are about 300bhp+ 2.0 litre turbo engines which costs bucketloads of money.
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Originally Posted by Chip
Anyone who posted a joke would get a seriously reduced number of replies, lol

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read it wrong
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Originally Posted by Chip
Multiple accounts arent allowed here even now

Yeah right, minus the select few who seem to keep returning

And to all the people saying ten quid is nothing, you wont mind paying for me then? I knew you were a great bunch deep down, cheers for that
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:33 PM
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If you dont post much, you wouldnt have to pay still, as you wouldnt go over your (on the mlr example) limit of 20 posts per month.

If you do post a lot, surely its only fair that you pay for that, rather than someone else having to like at the moment?
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:37 PM
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think it all depends on how and what runs the site
Old 23-10-2008 | 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
as one of two things (or both) has to happen:
1) less posts by unpaid members means less running costs for the site
2) more people paying means less running cost per person
Why does either or both of these HAVE to happen?

The site is fine as it is isn't it?
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I see it that people who although not paying to post, they still contribute to the site by their posts and assistance to others. I try my best to help people if they looking for a part etc....not always with my own pocket in my interests but just to help others ie ive sent out parts needed by others FOC as I had no use to them and they would only gather dust until the day they gotten broken in the garage and binned. Would my rather charitable offerings be considered as a fair exchange to use this site for more than one post per every working day??
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Originally Posted by Dan
Why does either or both of these HAVE to happen?

The site is fine as it is isn't it?
You misunderstood, I was saying what the effects would be if the system was implemented, as opposed to just 99% of people apparently leaving and not coming back as per the post I was replying to.
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it'll have its pro's and con's. imo
more work for mod's in getting out welcome packs stickers what ever more money for them to deal with and membership's etc. but it'll also put some people off joining up and what happens if they use there 20 post up helping some one else and have a problem of there own they cant post for another 2 weeks or more they'll just join up in a different name there for making yet more accounts that'll hardly get used.
i mean non of these do it
vvoc-no
vectra-sport-no
migweb-no
mk3oc-no
cav-web-no
i no these are all vauxhall site's but i dont go on jap sites or any other's apart from these and pf now. just my opinon so please correct me if im wrong
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Originally Posted by cossie604
I see it that people who although not paying to post, they still contribute to the site by their posts and assistance to others. I try my best to help people if they looking for a part etc....not always with my own pocket in my interests but just to help others ie ive sent out parts needed by others FOC as I had no use to them and they would only gather dust until the day they gotten broken in the garage and binned. Would my rather charitable offerings be considered as a fair exchange to use this site for more than one post per every working day??
Thats very commendable behaviour, im the same myself, with both my time and often with parts as well, however it doesnt change my opinion of the fact that people who use the site reguarly can be reasonably expected to make a nominal contirbution towards its running costs, rather than just leaving it on the shoulders of a few people to do so for everyone else's benefit.
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Originally Posted by steveturbocal
it'll have its pro's and con's. imo
more work for mod's in getting out welcome packs stickers what ever more money for them to deal with and membership's etc. but it'll also put some people off joining up and what happens if they use there 20 post up helping some one else and have a problem of there own they cant post for another 2 weeks or more they'll just join up in a different name there for making yet more accounts that'll hardly get used.
i mean non of these do it
vvoc-no
vectra-sport-no
migweb-no
mk3oc-no
cav-web-no
i no these are all vauxhall site's but i dont go on jap sites or any other's apart from these and pf now. just my opinon so please correct me if im wrong


Im not suggesting we have membership packs etc, so no more work involved (other than maybe deleting a few duplicate accounts if peopel abuse it).

And your opinion is your opinion, its not for anyone else to correct
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if i post on a site on a day to day basis i pay the membership, imho i cannot see how anyone on a modified car site posting about moding there car cannot pay 10 pound a YEAR to use the site.
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Since the company was brought by IB have have lost ant interest for "helping the site" as that is now the responsibility of IB as a business imho.
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But people dont pay to support the others of this site, they pay to gain the extras that are availble to them as a result, selling parts etc. I have no interest in these extras...deffo not interested in the priviledge of getting access to the where ever the arguments get moved too either as they are normaly just petty ramblings anyhows
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Are you doing this on the Vauxhall Sport forum Chip?

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Originally Posted by cossie604
But people dont pay to support the others of this site, they pay to gain the extras that are availble to them as a result, selling parts etc. I have no interest in these extras...deffo not interested in the priviledge of getting access to the where ever the arguments get moved too either as they are normaly just petty ramblings anyhows
i dont join to sell stuff

i have NO ford stuff to sell
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Originally Posted by cossie604
But people dont pay to support the others of this site, they pay to gain the extras that are availble to them as a result, selling parts etc. I have no interest in these extras...deffo not interested in the priviledge of getting access to the where ever the arguments get moved too either as they are normaly just petty ramblings anyhows
Ive never contributed towards the site as a result of getting extras if I do, I couldnt care less about the for sale section as I have never sold anything in it, and I couldnt care less about the mens room as porn isnt exactly hard to find on the net.

My reason for contributing is to allow the site to be viable to continue.
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
Since the company was brought by IB have have lost ant interest for "helping the site" as that is now the responsibility of IB as a business imho.
I bet they get more than the site is costing to run off of the advertisements alone. However, if paid up members lost the advertisements, I would pay.

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imo pf not as good as it used to be, hence my little input on here somedays
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if that happens i will stay away,i dont pay for the likes of pistonheads ,a bigger site,sorry just dont believe in paying membership for a website to line someones pockets when ,with the amount of google ads on this site hosting is probably free to them anyhow............................
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Come on people, is 10 quid a lot in the UK? You must be joking. It is what, a meal at KFC's? And half of posts over here are about 300bhp+ 2.0 litre turbo engines which costs bucketloads of money.
money better spent on the engine than joining an internet forum to put 20 in a post every month
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Originally Posted by Benni
Are you doing this on the Vauxhall Sport forum Chip?

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No mate, its so small that it doesnt even have paid members at all, it would be more hassle to setup than its worth, its free for all to use and this works just fine for it.
In the case of PF though, where it gets a significant percentage of its income from membership fees, IMHO those fees should be spread amongst all regular posters.
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Originally Posted by Jim Galbally
Since the company was brought by IB have have lost ant interest for "helping the site" as that is now the responsibility of IB as a business imho.
helping the site?you lot made petrucci a lot of money,and did he thank you lot?
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Very reasonable idea.
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Originally Posted by RC4
with the amount of google ads on this site hosting is probably free to them anyhow............................

Would be nice to know the breakdown of the ins and outs I guess, so we could all make a more informed decision as the bottom line is that if contributions arent really needed for just posting as the adverts pay for it, and these fees are merely to fund selling and mens room access, thats good news for the likes of me and sbd16v as it will save us money
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Originally Posted by Chip
No mate, its so small that it doesnt even have paid members at all, it would be more hassle to setup than its worth, its free for all to use and this works just fine for it.
In the case of PF though, where it gets a significant percentage of its income from membership fees, IMHO those fees should be spread amongst all regular posters.
Fair one. I can see your point on this by the way, I just can't see many paying up and thus loosing a lot of members. It's no longer a contribution then.

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Dumb idea,will just make pf more elitish



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