Chip

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What does Si B need to buy so that I can map his car and make it more economical on a run for him (power is ok, its just economy thats shite at the moment!)

What hardware does he need?

What software do we download?


Thanks in advance
(advance, get it? lol)

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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www.ecutek.com

Azrael

What you need is openport cable: http://tunertools.com/proddetail.asp...C-OpenPort1.3U

Ecuflash software for reflashingand modyfing maps: http://www.openecu.org/index.php?title=EcuFlash

Evoscan software for datalogging (and mony other things like actuator testing, bleeding the diffs etc): http://www.limitless.co.nz/

You may also want to read a bit on the openecu.org forums. One of the problems with Ecuflash is that it sometimes needs better definitions for particular ECU which can be found on those forums, sometimes particular maps may be notwhat they seem. (AFAIR boost control and knock control maps have wrong names often).



The above is true for Evos 7-9, Evo 10 is under development and previous ones cannot be reflashed this way I think (although I am unsure about Evo6).

Azrael

Ecutec is bloody expensive and has access to fewer maps then ecuflash on many Evos.

Azrael

You're gonna thank us by advancing our ignitions? ;/

ECU Monitor Enthusiast

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Yes you are right !!

I never knew about the open ecu stuff...WOW !!!!

Chip

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Sorry, i should have specified "without spending lots of money" as the only reason we want to remap it is to save him a couple of pence a mile on a run.

Rick

Look into the innovate stuff, they do something that snaps into logworks but ive never used it. Graham goode will sell it.

Tim

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dont buy anythin take to nms and let karl remap it.they can do evos now
tim

Garage19

Chip you need the ecu flash software and a telematrix (sp) cable (Ł45).

Then off you go.

I'll find some links.

Garage19

http://openecu.org/index.php?title=E...VehicleSupport

Tactrix cable - thats how its spelt and cheaper than i rememember to. Only a fiver!
http://www.tactrix.com/product_info.php?products_id=48

Garage19

For Ł600 yes

Why bother if you have the knowledge and tools to do it yourself.

RickyLee53

Thats not all the cable, there are 2 parts to it.

Chip, i'm guessing the car is E7 or newer? which is what is needs to be.

The cables are cheaper from "limitless" in nz. They have the openport 1.3's on offer.

Stu @ M Developments

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the open ECU stuf isnt too bad when ou get to grips with it Chipper, its great for free.

GaryEvo

after using the ecutek software today i have to say its ace,loads better than open ecu but then it wasnt free!! haha

Si B

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Thanks for the post Chip and everyone for the replies

I'm loosely familiar with Ecuflash, there is a lot of info on this on the MLR and EvoM.net too.

My Ecutek map just needs a tweak really, but not sure if they lock the maps? Would be a pain, but not impossible to remap the whole thing from scratch I guess...

Just got to fit my Innovate WBand and get myself a decent EGT monitor too.

Si

sbd16v

stack do a egt gauge in there new range that is 84 quid plus vat from demonthiefs

awesome money imo when you think a new hks sensor is 90 quid

Rs Gus

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or just get it to stu for a decent map as mine drives loads better and smoother thanmost if not all the ecutek'd evos i have been in hope that helps oh and the owners have also commented on why there car aint smooth like mine

GaryEvo

but thats just down to effort people put in to tuning

any one can knock a map out in 10mins but its not going to drive nice

Azrael

You can unlock Ecutek maps on Evo (not on Subaru).

RickyLee53

I'm sure chip and Si can get the car just as good, it'l take them a bit longer, but they can afford to spend the extra time.

As for unlocking the ECUtec map there is something on Evom about it, your going to loose your ECUtek licence, but i wouldn't worry about that, i can't see you going back to them.

There are a lot of new rom's kicking around which allow you to do a lot of the stuff Ecutec does.

Switchable maps. flat shift, als, etc etc.

Azrael

Some of these only work on US-spec cars though, you must be carefull. The US, EU and JDM Evo has quite big differences in engine management.

silky16v

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Chip speak to GrayW on MLR he sent me my modifed Tephra Map for my evo i now have duel Maps switching, programmable IC spray, Valet mode, Mild Anti-lag setup etc

http://www.lancerregister.com/showthread.php?t=218477

there are plenty of folk with 260 that are now running this software
as soon as my 3" exhaust arrives and my wideband i'll be adjusting my map to run around 360-370bhp and of course the better MPG

dave cos4x4

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if you drive it slower the fuel will be better.

Azrael

Not really, the Evo 9 is actually more economical at 130kph in 6th then at 100kph ...

silky16v

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i wish sometime i wish i still own'd my saph it was so much better MPG

CossieRich

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why would he want to do that? He can do it himself

Si B

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No need to thrash it so much now my track buddy has a dead car

The "remap for better economy" line that Chip was using is a thin disguise for me wanting more power so I can race round with the Dave Sharrocks of this world

Si B

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Very very tempted to simply use Karl or Stu again as I have in the past with my Cossie live maps.

However Chip is a tad cheaper, and if I can just have a few minor tweaks to save a few quid here and there that is all I need. No need for a Ł200-Ł500 odd live map here.

It's done 13000 miles now in 1 year, at no more than 20 mpg, probably nearer 10-15 for much of it's thrashing.

Even if Chip does an average job, I stand to save a fortune!

Si

Azrael

Remmaped Evo should be noticable more economical.


Si B what mods do you have there?

silky16v

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as above Si get in touch with GrayW on MLR he'll sort out a map for you car then chip can simply alter it. it will be good practice for him if he does mine

Gordon1

We use the ecuflash/openecu and get on very well with it evos 7-9 and subaru's 2000 -2008 with very good results

Tim

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IMO i would always use someone with vast amounts of knowledge who does it every day with results that speak for themselves over some one who has limited knowledge in mapping(no offence intented chip),as its always going to move from a quick tweek to can i go faster lol
Do people think that adjusting a map on a car is a simple as this post makes its seam????? honest question ??????? i dont care if i had the means to do mine (i could easily afford it) i really want it to be the best it could possibly be, i would pay someone who is a reputable mapper as i do,and the results always speak for themselves.
Each to there own IMO,Looks like people try to save money and have a bash themselves,but if you have spent a few pounds on the hardware why not have it the best it can be.
p.s im not slating the post just answering the question above.
Tim

Chip

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Car drives mint already, no flat spots, nice and responsive etc.
Car makes reasonable power already.

The BIG fault though is that it is poor fuel economy on cruise on the motorway.

I bet that just by advancing the timing in literally a handful of cells, and leaning it out a touch in a handfull of cells, in the space of literally 2 minutes, I can add 5% at least to its fuel economy!

Im sure Stu or Karl could do far better, but they are running a business and so charge more than a cup of tea which is the value I place on my own time, lol

Si's spec will move on later on, this is just to allow him to be more econimical in the mean time.

Dingy

or without driving it at all LOL.......

Get a motec chip LOL....and make sure its unlocked even if the tuner said they locked it LOL

Chip

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pmsl

silky16v

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just do what i've done get the modifed Rom from Tephra and use the duel map function i have 1 map for super+ petrol and mild anti-lag and the other set for normal 95ron petrol and awesome fuel MPG for when i'm just pottering around

Azrael

Actually you have both even on standard car, they just switch according to knock sums.

Turbosystems

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the knock algorithms are extremely complex, my understanding is they don't switch maps they interpolate between the maps. I think the only people who actually understand these complex algorithms are the Mitsubishi software gurus

Jim Galbally

we get what youre saying, but its not like chip's your average DIY idiot

he is a cunt tho