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Old 23-09-2008 | 10:19 AM
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Hi all

Lets hope this doesn't get too controversial


Personally, I think it is disgusting how people can openly joke and laugh about doing it. What with the current topic in the muppet room, really makes you think about other people's views....

There is a victim of rape in my close family. I have had first hand experience of seeing how it destroys a life, its almost bringing me to tears now thinking about what this person has been put through, and how the person involved and us as a family have had to deal with it. I just really cannot comprehend how it can be joked about, makes me so angry.

I do have lots to say on the subject, but as I am having a few minutes sit down at work I dont want to go into it any more.

Whats your views?

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Old 23-09-2008 | 10:22 AM
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Its a cowardly crime. One of the lowest of the low.

Hanging is, the only proper way to deal with vermin who commit rape.
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:23 AM
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Its a cowardly crime. One of the lowest of the low.

Hanging is, the only proper way to deal with vermin who commit rape.
By the testicles as well .
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:24 AM
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The sort of misery and destruction of your life is the same sort of pain that people suffer from the following:
Mental illness
Terrorism
War
Famine

Im of the opinion that if you ban jokes about one emotive subject you have to ban them about all emotive subjects, or you accept that people just have to self sensor if they are the over sensitive type, and give them the chance to do so by clearly labelling something as potentially offensive.
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Its a cowardly crime. One of the lowest of the low.

Hanging is, the only proper way to deal with vermin who commit rape.
Im sure most people agree with you there, but was that even VAGUELY answering the question asked?
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Chip
The sort of misery and destruction of your life is the same sort of pain that people suffer from the following:
Mental illness
Terrorism
War
Famine

Im of the opinion that if you ban jokes about one emotive subject you have to ban them about all emotive subjects, or you accept that people just have to self sensor if they are the over sensitive type, and give them the chance to do so by clearly labelling something as potentially offensive.


totally agree


the last time my wife had a miscarage, i logged onto passionford and there was 2!! baby congrats threads !




where does the line get draw ?? how hard do you think it is for someone to log onto passionford and see threads like this ??

congrates on the baby ------ when someone has just had a misscarage.
congrates on the wedding ---- when someone just come home and found there wife/husband in bed with another man.
how many ppl earn Ł1k a week --- when someone just went bankrupt is losing there house and has 2 kids and a wife to look after.


all of these are life changing devistating things that are totally out of your control but where is the line drawn.
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:31 AM
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Feel sorry for you and your family mate

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Originally Posted by Chip
Im sure most people agree with you there, but was that even VAGUELY answering the question asked?
Your right Chip. It didnt.

Ok then, NO i dont think its a "joke" worthy subject imo.
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Matt Evans
Your right Chip. It didnt.

Ok then, NO i dont think its a "joke" worthy subject imo.
Which of these sujbects do you think are and arent jokeworthy too please mate?

Mental illness
Terrorism
War
Famine
Miscarriage
Marriage breakup / Relationship problems


Old 23-09-2008 | 10:34 AM
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
congrates on the wedding ---- when someone just come home and found there wife/husband in bed with another man.

only a man???
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I'm laid back bout most things, will laugh & joke bout anything, I've got a personal hatred about rape & anything that hurts women or children to the point of it boilin my blood or bringin me to tears !!

Jokes in the right scenaro can be funny if kept general or vauge.

The post in which Rich was refering to was towards SOMEONE (on this board), ment in jest I know & no harm was intended but once you single someone out & make it personal like that in my opinion you cross the line !!

The punishment for Rape'ists & Phedo's etc is far far to lenient & I honestly think if found guilty they should let the family of the victims do what they wish no holded barred !! I would slit their f**kin throte's !!

Sorry, but thats my thoughts.

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Old 23-09-2008 | 10:42 AM
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Originally Posted by sbd16v
congrates on the wedding ---- when someone just come home and found there wife/husband in bed with another man.
Sorry !!
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:45 AM
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I personally think anything/anyone is fair game for a joke, it's part of the British culture.
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Its Not Rape If You Shout Surprise!
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Originally Posted by cheeky dog
Its Not Rape If You Shout Surprise!
fpmsl, I was going to write a sensible reply but that just cracked me up.

Everyone goes through shit mate, everyone has a tough time, the whole point is a joke is designed to make you smile. Ok not everyone will find everything funny, but most will, and thats all the matters.

it's nothing personal to anyone
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Leeeroy
I personally think anything/anyone is fair game for a joke, it's part of the British culture.
I agree ya cannot please everyone all the time, and life is too short to get upset at jokes.
Im sure no one does it to realy upset anyone, and the muppet room does come with a warning.
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:10 AM
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Its only the internet.

If jokes or humourous digs about a subject offend you, don't read them, or try turning off the PC.

We all have things in our lives that upset us.

I personnaly find that if you can joke about certain subjects it helps to get over them and move on.
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:14 AM
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Originally Posted by cheeky dog
Its Not Rape If You Shout Surprise!
Theres always one... pmsl

I am afraid jokes are there for a reason and all comers are game- Pricess Diana, 911 victims, Black, Asian, Chinease, Welsh (but thats fair) Disabled people, Animals, Women, Dogs, The Blind, Terrorists, Muslims, Christians, Marines, RAF,...... etc etc etc.

In someway everything above if said to the wrong person and at the wrong time will offend.

The key with jokes- is timing!!!!!
Old 23-09-2008 | 01:12 PM
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someone told me once a fact 9 out of 10 people like gang rape.....
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Making jokes is a normal human way of dealing with terrible things. Its why we laugh at folk who fall over and make crisp jokes about 911.
If we had to sit and think about such things we'd never lift ourselves out of misery.
Old 23-09-2008 | 01:40 PM
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agree its with the timing, I watch a ricky gervais stand-up or whatever his name is making jokes about children with cancer couldn't turn it off quick enough and proper put me off him.
Old 23-09-2008 | 01:41 PM
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Originally Posted by dunketh
Making jokes is a normal human way of dealing with terrible things. Its why we laugh at folk who fall over and make crisp jokes about 911.
If we had to sit and think about such things we'd never lift ourselves out of misery.
agreed, we all realise the effects of these subjects, but if people never made light of them, people would never leave their homes
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Originally Posted by MarK4
agree its with the timing, I watch a ricky gervais stand-up or whatever his name is making jokes about children with cancer couldn't turn it off quick enough and proper put me off him.
i went to see jimmy car live, he was taking the piss out of a couple of disabled lads in wheel chairs, thats not funny, in my book that bullying
Old 23-09-2008 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Twellsie
i went to see jimmy car live, he was taking the piss out of a couple of disabled lads in wheel chairs, thats not funny, in my book that bullying
That's because he is in no way funny and has to use other people in order to make himself look humerous. Lee Evans and the like can spend all night and not take the piss out of anyone.

Rape, I can and do joke about it. However, joking aside I obviously think it's awful. Kill them all.

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i know a girl that got raped and i helped her alot with it but at the end of the day if u watch every single word u say then this life wud suck big time as they say if u dont laugh u cry u just gotta pick one of ther 2
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Originally Posted by ballin
Everyone goes through shit mate, everyone has a tough time, the whole point is a joke is designed to make you smile. Ok not everyone will find everything funny, but most will, and thats all the matters.

it's nothing personal to anyone
Agreed.
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It is the muppet room though mate, anything goes in there,

If I was effected by rape like you where and I saw a thread in the muppet room about it I wouldn't open it, that place is for stupid and rediculous threads end of, I mean what did you expect? A serious topic about an issue as sensitive as that in the Muppet room?

If it was in GD it would be a different matter


And in answer to your question I wouldn't joke about it mate but I would think others would
Old 23-09-2008 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by alan12112
If I was effected by rape like you where and I saw a thread in the muppet room about it I wouldn't open it, that place is for stupid and rediculous threads end of, I mean what did you expect? A serious topic about an issue as sensitive as that in the Muppet room?
Not at all. It was a light and humurous topic that someone felt necessary to say something along the lines of wanted to rape the person in question.

Bang out of order in my opinion.

Thanks for the input...
Old 23-09-2008 | 04:10 PM
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with rape nowadays its all to common for a woman just to shout "rape" and ruin a mans life just because she was drunk she didnt know what she was doing,them sort of people sadly make rape look like a joke and and to easy to say it, I feel sorry for the woman who have it done to them seriously, but also for the men who get acused of it and have to live there lives with it knowing there innocent.
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Unfortunately my ex got raped 8 years ago, and I fucking hate the cunt that done it. I only joke about it now and tbh I don't know why I do, but theres a time and place for it. Not everyone knows everyones problems and not everyone knows mine when it happened i'd not long joined the RAF and there was jokes going about all the time with rape and alsorts which is probably why I have the warped sense of humor I have, So timing can be bad but it happens sadly. I cried and was fucking angry when it happened and still to this day I would love to get my hands on the prick that done it, even though when it happened we wasn't together, I still had feelings as we broke up due to her having an abortion, so things went from shit, to a hole opening up, and a big one at that.


Hope the person involved Rich is ok, and gets better, I know first hand what its like
Old 23-09-2008 | 05:41 PM
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theres lots of different subjects that destroy lives that are joked about . rape isnt any different to any of the rest of them. like all contraversial subjects some will be offended and some will laugh.
such is life.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy
theres lots of different subjects that destroy lives that are joked about . rape isnt any different to any of the rest of them. like all contraversial subjects some will be offended and some will laugh.
such is life.

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it's all in the timing
for everyoen who laughs at a joke, there will be someone finding it offensive in some way

it's just human nature

you can't please everyone all the time and some jokes are funny even though you know you shouldn't be laughing at them
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and the majority of jokes are at someone's expense. that why they are funny.
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Cant see a problem

Its a fact that 9 out of ten people enjoy gang rape
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Originally Posted by MarK4
agree its with the timing, I watch a ricky gervais stand-up or whatever his name is making jokes about children with cancer couldn't turn it off quick enough and proper put me off him.
youre serious?! I dont know him, but hop ehe get fuckin cancer in his balls
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serious mate it was on telly about 4 days ago joking about the kids in the leukemia ward in a hospital been bald and other cancer related shit. I actually thought he was real funny till I watched that, saying that its a sore subject with me as I am sure it is with many others.
But the bit about the kids was plain sick.
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its only funny when you have never had it done to you or someone close but if it has its not gonna be nice. Someone very close to me has been raped and its not nice. People mean no harm by jokes as they are all going to insult some in a racist, sexist, etc but we can all tell whats light hearted or not. Jokes are made to make us laugh aslong as they are not personal.
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
I'm laid back bout most things, will laugh & joke bout anything, I've got a personal hatred about rape & anything that hurts women or children to the point of it boilin my blood or bringin me to tears !!

Jokes in the right scenaro can be funny if kept general or vauge.

The post in which Rich was refering to was towards SOMEONE (on this board), ment in jest I know & no harm was intended but once you single someone out & make it personal like that in my opinion you cross the line !!

The punishment for Rape'ists & Phedo's etc is far far to lenient & I honestly think if found guilty they should let the family of the victims do what they wish no holded barred !! I would slit their f**kin throte's !!

Sorry, but thats my thoughts.

jb
Agree with you jb, well said.


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