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Old 23-09-2008 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by MarK4
agree its with the timing, I watch a ricky gervais stand-up or whatever his name is making jokes about children with cancer couldn't turn it off quick enough and proper put me off him.


Should of left it on then because he was actually taking the piss out of a "child" with cancer who had snuck into his TEENAGE cancer gig and the child with cancer was an adult... that was the punch line of the joke.

In fairness when you followed the joke through you clearly knew it was made up... it could have been black, asian, muslim, irish, welsh, disabled children and the joke would have been EXACTLY the same.

Shame you missed it- was not bad.
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by jb fletch
I'm laid back bout most things, will laugh & joke bout anything, I've got a personal hatred about rape & anything that hurts women or children to the point of it boilin my blood or bringin me to tears !!

Jokes in the right scenaro can be funny if kept general or vauge.

The post in which Rich was refering to was towards SOMEONE (on this board), ment in jest I know & no harm was intended but once you single someone out & make it personal like that in my opinion you cross the line !!

The punishment for Rape'ists & Phedo's etc is far far to lenient & I honestly think if found guilty they should let the family of the victims do what they wish no holded barred !! I would slit their f**kin throte's !!

Sorry, but thats my thoughts.

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Old 23-09-2008 | 10:34 PM
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shings, argee mate, gervias was funny, and you would have to be tiny minded to think for a second that he doesn't raise alot of money for them and that they mean more to him than a quick jibe.

His selfabsorbed, selfish nature is his act, and that has made him wealthy, and it is that wealth that they are benefiting from.

It isn't right or wrong to joke about a certain subject IMO, it WRONG to aim a joke about a subject at someone who is dealing with it in a nature that is intended to hurt.

Often, the key is timing and the teller, that makes it acceptable, or not.
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:56 PM
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Originally Posted by orion_crazy_carl
with rape nowadays its all to common for a woman just to shout "rape" and ruin a mans life just because she was drunk she didnt know what she was doing,

Its not "common" at all. The police statistics just dont back up the "cry rape" thing you say. Its estimated between 3-6% of all rape "ALLEGATIONS" are false

Bear in mind that only 40% of incidents of rape are even reported!!!
Old 23-09-2008 | 10:58 PM
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Warren, common or not, I know someone who had it happen to him, very nearly ended up inside too.

Fuck that, doing time for a rape you havent done, and everyone hating your family etc.
Not to mention the amount of police resource wasted that could have helped solve (and hence prevent further) genuine rapes.

Its a crime on a par with rape itself IMHO, to falsely accuse someone of it.
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:04 PM
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Yes, I don't think woman cry rape that often, however, two incidents i know off all be it over the last 15 years.

One, girl goes to cops, claims rape, gives description etc tunrs out it was he boyfriend she described, he had done sold all, they had just fallen out, police charged her with waisting police time, as a kid she used to headbutt lamposts and then claim we had hit her??

The other, a mate shagged a bird he had been seeing when we were younger, she was up for it, but then on realising that her older sister would find out, and tell her strict parents (keep in mind we were 16 at the time), she decided to claim to her sister that my mate had forced her!!!

It all went tit's up big time, then after the stink died down a few months later, she came sniffing back round wanting to get back together??? Even admitted she panicked and didn't know what to say to her sister, so pretended it wasn't her choice!!!

People like this really anger me as it means real victims that have to have masses of courage to come foward are treated as a lier!!

My misses mate was raped when she was younger, think she was around 14-15 by a lad who followed her home from a party, she never went to the police, and she finds it very hard to be comitted or faithful, wonder if this early vile act has affected her ability to feel comfortable with men??
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:06 PM
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bloody hell didn't see that bit lol even though I still reckon that was a bit bad taste I think I was ranting what a c*** he was to the mrs so never heard it, maybe i'll give him another chance lol
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:08 PM
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Mark4, he is like marmite mate, you either like or dislike him, the idea is your are supposed to think "what a self absorbed, bugheaded c*nt", that's his whole act, so easy to take him the wrong way.
Old 23-09-2008 | 11:11 PM
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The police were at my door today, i answered and they said they were looking for a rapist. I said depending on the pay I'll start on Friday


Old 23-09-2008 | 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Chip
Its a crime on a par with rape itself IMHO, to falsely accuse someone of it.
I agree with you here chip, but with the number of cases of rape unreported allready the police HAVE to act.

On the flip side the police can and do prosecute woman (and men) who falsly accuse rape. People have been locked up for it.

The problem is that often the "reputation" even once found innocent fucks peoples lives up.
Originally Posted by matts1
wonder if this early vile act has affected her ability to feel comfortable with men??
Almost certainly!! Theres whole books on the psychological effects of rape and sexual abuse (child and adult).

Some people cant trust men full stop as a result and it can go to the other extreme where some women become extremely promiscious as a way of gaining power over men. If its partner rape its even more messy as some people will end up after a long abusive relationship subconciously looking for bad guys due to conditioning, low self esteem and some even develop the belief that they deserve to get hurt.

Thats just the start of the possible mental effects.

Look on some site like rape crisis as they generally have lots of info.
Old 24-09-2008 | 01:17 AM
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Originally Posted by mince
The police were at my door today, i answered and they said they were looking for a rapist. I said depending on the pay I'll start on Friday


Old 24-09-2008 | 01:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Shings
Theres always one... pmsl

I am afraid jokes are there for a reason and all comers are game- Pricess Diana, 911 victims, Black, Asian, Chinease, Welsh (but thats fair) Disabled people, Animals, Women, Dogs, The Blind, Terrorists, Muslims, Christians, Marines, RAF,...... etc etc etc.

In someway everything above if said to the wrong person and at the wrong time will offend.

The key with jokes- is timing!!!!!
watch out COCKyn on here will be annoyed
Old 24-09-2008 | 02:09 AM
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Originally Posted by mince
The police were at my door today, i answered and they said they were looking for a rapist. I said depending on the pay I'll start on Friday


rofl!
Old 24-09-2008 | 09:48 AM
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Rape is the lowest of the low and there is no excuse. But,

Women crying rape that havent been is just as bad and there is a lot of it goes on so in that sense women can be as bad as men.

This consent thing really pisses me off to. Why is it the mans repsonsibilty ?

Joking aside, theres women in my town that will eat you for dinner if your to pissed and their reputaion proceeds them.

Im just glad im in a realtionship. Id be scared shitless !
Old 24-09-2008 | 09:50 AM
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Old 24-09-2008 | 09:57 AM
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Originally Posted by warrenpenalver
I agree with you here chip, but with the number of cases of rape unreported allready the police HAVE to act.

On the flip side the police can and do prosecute woman (and men) who falsly accuse rape. People have been locked up for it.

The problem is that often the "reputation" even once found innocent fucks peoples lives up.
Even when they do get locked up, it tends to be for 28 days, and then they are out and no one cares in the public particuarly, ie no long term stigma.

where as some poor bastard doing 7 years labelled a rapist when he isnt, its fair to see that his life genuinely has been TOTALLY ruined IMHO, far more so than any rape victim arguably, and that of his family to a large extent too I would imagine in most cases.
Old 24-09-2008 | 08:40 PM
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everything can be joked about in my opinion. we all have sore points that we won't find jokes about funny, but humour is very personal and one man's ricky gervais (funny as fucked) is another man's lee evans (funny as being butt fucked)
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