bdgboy

It would be great to see race grids full of these glorious machines that where active during the 1970s and 80s known as Modsports and Special Saloons.
These Historic race cars used super wide slicks,semi space frames and outrageous horsepower,it was always entertaining to see the mighty Super Saloon Fords race the BMW CSL Batmobiles,Big Berthas of Gerry Marshall,the all conquering Skodas as well as those fearsome Historic Modsports AC Cobras,Jags, Astons,Elvas,the Black Brick Caterhams and the nimble Turner Sports Cars.
Isnt about time there was an Association to bring back all these Historic Race Cars,so they can entertain us all once again.

Does any forum members know where any of these race cars are or if there is an Association catering for these beasts.

Occasionally you see the odd one race but never full grids of them and I am sure there are lots hidden away in workshops and garages unable to race because they dont comply to recent race regulations.

Whats your fond memories and favourites.

focusv8

I used to follow Mick Hill;

Janglia (105e with Jag straight 6)
Boss (Capri Capri with Ford v8)
Skoda (With Ford v8)
Beetle. (Again with Ford v8 if I remember.)

http://www.brdc.co.uk/brdcarchive.cf.../member_id/150
http://www.racing70s.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/index.html
www.mikehaywardcollection.co.uk.

bdgboy

Just heard rumblings of a Ford Special Saloon wanting to get rid of its cobwebs,its supposed to be a fearsome beast that would even frighten the life out of dear old Rod Birley.
www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com

Interesting to know where the car wants to play.

kev 3dr

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I use to follow the thundersaloons and the anglo americnan/intermarque challenge !

Thunder saloon cars i can remember
V8 carlton, various ex BTCC RS500, porsche engined gartrac RS500, V8 engined RS500's, Cossie engines in vauxhall belmont, honda prelude, peugot 309, V8 manta's !!
other cars from around the time in other championship
Tony Sugden Skoda coupe with a Rouse built RS500 motor, V8 Sierra, Malcom hamilton's ultra quick V12 E type, Think it was Ellis plant hire Aston martin V12 ?

focusv8

http://www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com/

Thunder saloons NOT allowed in the above.

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bdgboy

These are great cars,I always left damp patches of drool at the pit walls watching these Special Saloons fly by.

There seems to be a New Association just started for this type of race car called the HMSA Historic Modsports and Saloon Association www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com

I wonder whats happened to the cars you mentioned above,would love to see them race again.

And whatever happened to those Space framed Capris that raced in the 70s and 80s,they where monsters and highly entertaining.

bdgboy

Sharp this HMSA lot,they are now going to let in the Thundersaloons as a lot of the old Special Saloons where converted to be Thundersaloons.

The www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com are changing the site content next week.

Should be good to see these mighty Ford race cars mix it with the Modsports.

bdgboy

All these wild race cars are now considered to be Historic Race Cars and at least they can still be used as a weapon to win races in.

Most of the Historics we see at meetings such as Goodwood are parade racing where they tend to show than to race.

So should be great to see this HMSA have grids full of these beasts that can still compete Ten Tenths and offer the spectators an exciting thrill.

Didnt Brookes for Hire have a Special Saloon Ford they raced.

bdgboy

Went on the HMSA Historic Modsports and Saloon Association site www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com and the variety of Historic race cars look really exciting.
We have joined and maybe in the future we can race our RS Ford Escort BDG against some Thundersaloon Ford Capris,Vauxhalls and a load of Modsports race cars like the Lotus,TR and Turner sports cars.

Touring Car Spares

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Looks remarkably like a thread on 10/10ths currently , Dale Minton ?

J1mbo

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i dont think there is many cars or drivers that will beat rod unless stupid amounts of money are thrown at cars/drivers

escort700bhp

tony ryan ?

escort700bhp

his card is marked lol !

J1mbo

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it most likely is ! but it has been for the last few years
greg from xsport threw money at that falcon and couldnt beat the 15 year old escort .... the car is only 500hp too ... be nice to see some competition for him ....

Touring Car Spares

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Not true , the Falcon did win at silverstone last year .
Stewart whyte , John Cross & Steve Hirst have all beaten him and that Escort , its emminently beatable but a complete waste of time trying , what would be the point ,its pretty much the perfect 10 minute racecar package .

Alg1k

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http://www.classictouringcars.com/

FIESTA CHRIS H

any pics???

J1mbo

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the falcon beat him for one reason ..
rod was pulling the rev limiter in 6th down the straight !
but none of them have beaten him in the championship
i dont think enyway

J1mbo

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rods website nice pics on there

http://www.rodbirley.com/

bdgboy

A couple of years back in the BARC Race series there was one very quick little Ford Fiesta MK1 driven by Jason Watkins,this car and driver combination raised a few eyebrows as it was like a Hornet sometimes attached to Rods rear end on the smaller circuits.

bdgboy

Worth viewing,some lovelly photos of some serious Historic Special Saloon Fords on the HMSA Historic Modsports and Saloon Association web site.
Revive these Awesome Ford race cars now.
www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com

bdgboy

Saw a lovelly Racing Modsports Turner Sports car at the Bromley Pageant Show,it was fitted with an all steel Ford Race Engine,developed by Cosworth.
The Magazine Dyno read out of this 1824cc short stroke crossflow showed it revved to 11,000 rpm on racing fuel and produced 230HP,which propels this race car to do the Quarters in 10.76 seconds and 0-60mph in 2.9 seconds.
Bloody Quick!!!

bdgboy

The HMSA have now decided that ANY Historic or Modern Engine and Gearbox can be used in HMSA eligible Historic Race Cars,Modsports,Special Saloons and Thundersaloons.
www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com

Hey Rod,even your car will be eligible in a few years.

bdgboy

Historic Modsports,Special Saloons,Thundersaloons and Silouetes.
There is to be a an Invite race specially for these fabulous pre 1982 race cars at Mallory Park July 5th 2009,titled HMSA Historic Modsports and Saloon Race,they are being allowed spaceframes,any type of engine and slicks.
All entries now welcome throu the Morgan Sports Car Club.
This could be a good event to get rid of the cobwebs so we are racing our spaceframed Special Saloon,be nice to have others with us.
Speak to the HMSA www.historicmodsportsandsaloons.com they are really helpful.