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Old 09-11-2004, 02:53 PM
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Default Boost to be turned down

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Need a good boost controller that does in gear boost..whats a good one???

I had a VERY big moment on a straight country lane running 2.4bar peak and 1.9 held in 3rd gear...fooking wheelspinningand then hitting a slight bump..back end out I dont know why this thing is so quick ...i have majorly altered the base map as tbh it was no where near my spec.....but was very safe and is now probably very volatile

I realistically am just losing loads of speed with all the wheelspin in lower gears so i am gonna have to get it boost controlled in gear to tame the thing...and there was i thinking i should bung a GT35 on it

Have i got too much power for RWD or in there any mods i can do to increase traction??..I am lowered/shims/polyraced/uprated shocks/17's on 215's...i dont want a grp a beam as the shims do the same thing essentially without the price tag did someone say a plated diff would help???
Old 09-11-2004, 02:54 PM
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dont press the accelerator down as far perhaps?
Old 09-11-2004, 02:57 PM
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So whats the point in having the power then Billy Anchor?
Old 09-11-2004, 02:59 PM
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well nothings stopping you from pressing it further in situations where it wont light up the wheels...

what you need is TRACTION CONTROL (and not these wank launch control boxes, proper traction control)
Old 09-11-2004, 03:01 PM
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Tricky one Phil.... that much power in RWD is never safe IMO mate.

Maybe a simple gearbox switched amal cut?
Old 09-11-2004, 03:02 PM
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ITs the same old posts from IMA


"you all hate me"
"im leaving and never posting again"
"i think im a sex god (but actualy im not)"
"Sorry for my posts last night i promise to be good again"
Or the old favourite
"my car is too quick i need to turn the boost down to drive it"

Which post is it today ? Oh its the "my car is too fast i need to drop the boost" post

IMA i have the answer for your lack of bottle ............. 4x4 Saff
Old 09-11-2004, 03:03 PM
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Missread this to start with:

Bosch Man,
...i dont want a grp a beam as the shims do the same thing essentially without the price tag did someone say a plated diff would help???

How the hell do you work that out?
Old 09-11-2004, 03:03 PM
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Std diff isnt up to much.

And crappy normal road tyres and skinny 215 wide is just silly for 400bhp+ belive me, been there, lol.

Look at the width of RWD production car tyres with 400bhp or more....
Old 09-11-2004, 03:05 PM
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Yes Stu...maybe thats an idea

Traction control was tested by Rod and found to be wank.

How do the other big bhp boys do it in RWD?????...Cause its just that Stu fooking dangerous ...i am having more moments than i ever had....i guess higher comp and big bhp dont mix
Old 09-11-2004, 03:06 PM
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What Stu????Plated diffs apparently aid grip dont ask me how
Old 09-11-2004, 03:06 PM
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Get your car on the rollers ima, wanna see what power you got, surely you do too?
Old 09-11-2004, 03:11 PM
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Your car should be able to break traction in 5th if its wet and the road not totally Flat... that will NEVER be termed "Safe power"
Old 09-11-2004, 03:13 PM
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Phil,
The shims are NOT a replacement for a proper Grp A beam, so please don't talk such bollocks . They HELP tyre wear, they do not improve traction in the same way a proper beam does, as the wheels still proscribe an arc in compression (but remain parrallel with a Grp A beam) .

Your only cure is: Grp A beam, 8" rear wheels, some decent (sticky) tyres, plated / ATB diff and some driving lessons at Bedford on how to exploit the car to the best of your ability.

Sadly, I know you will HONESTLY believe that you are right and that none of my advice is relevant to you, but then again everyone knows you're a delusional fuckwit . Follow my advice and you will then wonder what all the fuss is about, ignore it at your crashing peril . Powerful Cossies bite if the rear suspension is not modified.
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
What Stu????Plated diffs apparently aid grip dont ask me how
The Group A rear beam is nothing like the shims pal.

The shims help for certain, but more with toe than squat induced camber. Im sure if you do a search you will come up with a far more technical description to help you out.
Old 09-11-2004, 03:15 PM
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Mine could easily light em up in 5th in the wet even doing it the gentle way, starting from really low revs and letting the build up slow, even running as low as 25psi if i remember right.
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Hmm......Stu...now thats a VERY dangerous scenario ...i think i may go back to stage 3 to get my grip back and maybe spare my life

It pains me to say this but i think in the New Year its gonna have to be *holds head down in shame* a RHD Grp A Escos shell
Old 09-11-2004, 03:17 PM
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Mike it was YOU that heralded the shims to do virtually the same as Ahmeds Grp A beam
Old 09-11-2004, 03:21 PM
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Phil,
No I did not, I said they improve the toe as per the beam (so improve tyre wear) and as an added bonus, traction is improved over standard .

However, not in the same way a Grp A beam does . Obviously the shims are miles better than NOTHING, but are also as far behind a Grp A rear beam as the standard set up is behind the shimmed one .
Old 09-11-2004, 03:25 PM
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I see the 'ultimate' road going Cossie has some teething problems...

like I said to you before... to go fast you need T R A C T I O N !!!!

So still think your car is faster down the lanes than mine or faster in any road situation as you have said before

Before you go 4x4, why not try Mikes advice? Rod uses that set up for 600bhp+++ so I am sure it will be ok for yours
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Old 09-11-2004, 03:29 PM
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I like how despite the subject of this post, you still managed to get a dig in at Karl for his base map
Old 09-11-2004, 03:34 PM
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What tyres have you got on it now? And what diff? I converted my mates 2wd saph to greys / t34, was just a wheelspin machine, i made him get some proper tyres (215/40 Yoko's) and he broke the std rear diff on it's 1st outing, he got another std diff and broke that within 100 miles. On the cack tyres it did 1000's of miles, sideways for most of them , traction is your friend
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phil ypu can get a boost controler by blitz and a seperate power meter to control boost at mph

speak to christian as he uses it ( ove got one too but cant for the life of me find the boost controller )
Old 09-11-2004, 03:43 PM
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still think you used to have 400bhp before?

Now compared to you current setup
Old 09-11-2004, 03:46 PM
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215 yoko's had a new diff recently but use proper oil in it now and seems fine so far.

Phil its not a dig at Karl He gave me a safe map to get it started and was going to tweak it for me with my data...but instead i tweaked it myself!...I dont see thats a dig when he gave me what i asked for....it was good off boost though!!!
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Originally Posted by Ryan
still think you used to have 400bhp before?

Now compared to you current setup
I think he thinks he got nigh on 500 now
Old 09-11-2004, 04:10 PM
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Hi, my names Phil, me n me dawg are gonna build this super fast cossie like thats gonna wup all comer's

couple of months down the line

Its Phil again, me n the pooch are setting the car up now ive built it up, any advice will be refuted as i know all and you know nowt

another month down the line

Phil here, arse is red raw as i aint into the big power of my super fast car, can anyone help me out even though i will argue that you know nothing.





Ever tried a Fester 1.25 Phlip
Old 09-11-2004, 04:37 PM
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Ryan...on my lo comp 8 green set up it could only run 1.6 bar in 4th /5th due to surge.....but 2.3 bar held in third okish after a little surge but didnt feel as quick in that gear cause of less torque...that had around 440 ish this has the same i'd guess but loads more torque going from 7-1 to 8-1 plus mapping it myself properly.

Steve i find your comment rich considering all your power is in your dreams!
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you must have a very very heavy foot i think phill

im running 225 wide toyo proxis on mine and yes it will spin in 3rd if i really try to do it but your throttle is variable for a reason try not just pushing it straight to the floor every time or just stop being a pussy and just drive through it
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I dont do part throttle shit...its do or die or should that be die if i do

Seriously thinkin on escos rally car...trouble is then i need decent transmission you cant win

Porkie as long as i am in the lead you will never pass around the lanes due to me snaking all over the road...ROFL.
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glad you kept it shinny side up
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
I dont do part throttle shit...its do or die or should that be die if i do
yea, thats how i used to think soon found a nice brick wall to slow me down
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We only have hedges round here
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Originally Posted by Bosch Man
We only have hedges round here
ah well thats ok then, carry on
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do any of you cossie boys use the a'pexi avcr? that has a gear judge setup on it which can run a selected boost level in a certain gear.
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Default Re: Boost to be turned down

Originally Posted by Bosch Man
Have i got too much power for RWD or in there any mods i can do to increase traction??..I am lowered/shims/polyraced/uprated shocks/17's on 215's...i dont want a grp a beam as the shims do the same thing essentially without the price tag did someone say a plated diff would help???
On Nitrous i prpbably have twice the amount of Power that your motor can muster mate , so Power aint the prob its that your motor has shite traction.
ZOO Rear beam/proper diff, 235 wide Dunlop or similar sticky tyres, Leda coilovers etc, that will get you grip & then you just hit the throttle & it just goes.
0-100 7.1 & 0-150 13.3 says i aint losing much time spinning wheels.
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phil just out of interest what brakes have you got?
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Phil,

Beam, decent tyres, driving ability.

That should help
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Adus...std but with braided hoses,DOT 5.1 fluid and drilled/grooved discs...i have never had any braking worries so fook off with bigger brakes...lol...when i crash i will consider upping them..ROFL
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i notice the nre compomotice Mo-6's in 18" do a 10J version - 235s will go nicely on an 8J, so i rekon u could push 285s on the back - might need some arch extensions though


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