Rick Astley

I have spent 2 weeks liasing with a client putting a proposal together. I have given the client the final price today which beats all the people bidding for the project by $375.

Now he turns round to me and says oh I don't need it anymore.




So thats 2 weeks of work probably a good 30 hours put in for absolutely naff all. AGAIN.

WHYYY!!!!

Rant over.
Thanks

Tim

Rick Astley

I'm now listening to this over and over again... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7g6LenMQ5E

SNP

Did you try have the SCHEXY TIMEZ with there bum ?

Rick Astley

No... Should I have done? It's not normally something I would include in the price you see.

If you think I should then should I write this into the current proposal or perhaps quote on top?

Thanks for your help
Tim

Nash_mr2

what were u bidding for?

Rick Astley

It's to do with Website Development mate.

SNP

Maybe this is where you cut the $375 from the other quotes?

If the client thought you weren't willing to go that extra yard (or few inches) they may have doubted you commitment?

I'm assuming you did at least present your quote in the time honour fashion of a BarberShop quartet.

Nash_mr2

kewl - that interests me - i'm an IT Tech so i know how much effort and time Websites take to make, made a few myself

Chip

iTrader: (3)

2 weeks of pre sales for a client you dont trust, what a mug

You must be DESPERATE for work, lol

Rick Astley

2 weeks of correspondance with a *edit - previously* trusted client whom I have worked with before. Emails back and forth clarifying points within the project.

If you were spending somewhere in the region of $5,500 I am sure you'd be the same.

Desperate for work? No. Mug? No. Thats just the nature of the job and is just the way the cookie crumbles.

Nash_mr2

chip gets told LOL

Chip

iTrader: (3)

If thats just the way the cookie crumbles, why are you posting about it on here?

And for 5500 dollars, which is what 4 days work (well it is at the rate I charge out at for website development) why spend 2 weeks working upto it

Sorry, I stand by everything I said.

Nash_mr2

wow ease off man, you win some deals you loose some - hes oviously tried to win this one and lost - dont tell me it's never happend to you!

Rick Astley

You obviously work in a different way. I work for the small projects as much as I do for any other project as ultimately they bring in bigger projects.

I don't work directly with clients all the time, 70% of my time is with other development companies so that would obviously lead to repeat business.

I'm posting about it because I wanted to.

I stand by everything I said too You have no need to be sorry... It's not your fault

Chip

iTrader: (3)

We do pre sales that doesnt result in a sale quite often, as do most people in this industry, I dont bother posting on PF about it though as its just another day at the office and who would care?

Mind you we never do two weeks work (which is how he made it sound in his orginal post) for a tiny little pisspot 5500 dollar project though.

If all he did was send a few emails back and forth, then why the fuck is he moaning about it.

RWD_cossie_wil

iTrader: (9)

Come on, everyone KNOWS Chip is perfect

SNP

Thats not what i've heard.

Chip actually PHONED your client and mentioned you had the bad kind of aids, so shouldn't deal with you.


Now I KNOW your not just gonna sit and take that are you .....

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Gets told what?
That he spends 2 weeks working towards trying to score a 4 day project, and that he places trust in clients he shouldnt?

Wow, interesting stuff, im glad he told me

Rick Astley

Chip, instead of moaning about me posting a topic that I wanted to why not just go make your own successful topic instead?

Saves people jumping on the argument bandwagon.

To be honest I would normally expect a post like this to conjur up other peoples bad experiences rather than somebody trying to belittle me.

Tim

SNP

Chip called your nan a Nazi sympathiser .....

Rick Astley

He's right, she is

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i think it's the same sort of bum aids stavros proved amy whinehouse had, which makes it doubly bad

but at least you didn't offer him some schezy time so you have not been able to spread it around so he's probably caught it off of someone else

Chip

iTrader: (3)

One minute you have done 2 weeks work, the next minute its just a few emails, why not get your story straight about wether its a big deal or not, and then people know wether or not to cry for you

R4N SS

iTrader: (6)

hard luck mate.

im in the same game but this is all down to WHO you know and not WHAT you know.

Im close to getting my sis who works for a major IT company sort me a project out which will pay some very very good money and hopefully bring in some external work for my own company.

Its swings and roundabouts as they say or you win some you lose some.

Dont worry about it and keep plugging away - you will get a bite sooner or later.

Rick Astley

I am so sorry Chip (on your shoulder). Ever so sorry. Reaaaallllly sorrrrrry.

I clearly should have provided a break down of exact hours I had put into the project down to the very minute.

I should not have summarised as I was not aware my thread on this forum would be under such in depth analysis.

In future I will bear this in mind and ensure everything I type on Passionford is correct to the nearest, second, millimeter, thou or gps coordinate.

Have you made your successful topic yet? Have you finished attempting to belittle me over the internet yet? If not I suggest you get back to your Bluechip clients big boy

Rick Astley

Yeh I know fact there was nothing wrong with the proposal, I think it's more a case of maybe my client has had a disruption his end. But without knowing I can only guess. I would have really enjoyed the project too.

As you say swings and roundabouts mate

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Cool, so how many hours did you waste without a purchase order then?
(if you are having a thread about it, you may as well include some facts)

I have no desire to be a success on passionford, I just waste free time at work on here, you do it the other way around, you do work without payment, not vice versa

Im at a bluechip client's as we speak thanks mate, so no need to rush off to them

Nash_mr2

Doesntbelong is having a moan about cutomers who can be pains in the arse from time to time - Chip seems to think that he's the better salesman (i hate sales people BTW) - all doesntbelong was doing was having a rant, i've seen other threads on this forum about even shittier subjects - all you have to do is "view new posts" and you'll see a thread about some guys ass hole throbbing, i mean WTF's that all about - Chip, get in there and start telling him to stop moaning

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Nash, Im not a salesman mate, Im a techy nerd type.

Rick Astley

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

you are one of the most annoying people that comes on here. always talk absolute bullshit.. and always have to have have your lips glued to someone's arse cheek.

R5FORD

iTrader: (1)

p.s- unlucky fella, hard work sometimes goes unrewarded.

Chip

iTrader: (3)

Cant say ive ever really noticed him on here much, so it sounds a bit of an over the top response to him to call him the most annoying person on here TBH

Nash_mr2

LMAO - check my posts - you'll find that your comment about the lips and arse could not be further from the truth - yes i do talk about bullshit and thats purely to get reactions from individuals like yourself.

i'm only sticking with the poster of this thread becuse chip jumped straight down their throat without even getting the facts

Rick Astley

Please stop or I am going to start crying again!!!

dojj

iTrader: (3)

i asked an aa mechanic to look at my van today, he had a look around but couldn't find anything wrong with it so i went to ford

then had a big mac

not as disastrous as working for 2 weeks to be told "fuck off, we don't need you no more" but at least the majority of IT nerds are comiserating with you, and that's the main thing

SNP

I see your Baby crying, and raise you 1 Gazza in tears :

Rick Astley

You had a Big Mac?

Please accept my condolences...

dojj

iTrader: (3)

apparently the americans need all the help they can get
bernie mac's dead
freddie macs broke
rain mac's been kicked out of vegas for counting cards
so only big mac can help, but i think he's scottish so perhaps that's not helping at all

R4N SS

iTrader: (6)

The client often gets cold feet or they pull out/delay so the project commences when they are ready. Pain in the arse usually and Im glad I dont do the sales side of things - although i do for my own company as its pretty much a one band at the moment.

What exactly do you do?