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Old 31-08-2008, 02:24 PM
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why wont my car make full boost on the rollers..???....it's been on 3 different rolling roads and it doesn't make the power it has on the road.....spins up slowly and doesn't peak or hold full boost....the car should pull a 30psi spike and then hold 27/28psi.........today it made 27 and then held 23...........why....???............other cars all made boost

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could the airbox not be getting enough air...........the most it's held was 26psi with a cone filter on it
Old 31-08-2008, 04:37 PM
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What gear was the run done in Pete?
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One of two reasons is likely.. a) the fan is so shit (typical) that the ACT's were high enough to cause a boost reduction in the ecu.. or b) the rolling road simply didnt load it up enough.
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Rich: today was 3rd...................
pa sjo: but the other cossies made boost, and i run more
Old 31-08-2008, 04:56 PM
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RR isnt capable of putting the correct load on the engine.

AVA's rollers put so much load on the car that mine cant accelerate against it
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Originally Posted by rapidcossie
RR isnt capable of putting the correct load on the engine.

AVA's rollers put so much load on the car that mine cant accelerate against it
Not true. It depends on whether the operator knows how to.

It's not good to put too much load on either, in my opinion, AVA's rollers are FAR too hard on the car.

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Old 31-08-2008, 05:00 PM
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Christian and Beccy- are you saying you don't use your steady-state chassis dyno to fully load up engines then?
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need to come up there Euan.............the cars getting painted soon the re-mapped.......so i'll be up for a ride up
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Originally Posted by pa_sjo
Christian and Beccy- are you saying you don't use your steady-state chassis dyno to fully load up engines then?
Pardon?

No, I'm saying that there are ways to load the car up if it isn't making boost.

Also, is the comparison of boost between an in-car gauge and a dyno plot? They may well vary.
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Pardon?

No, I'm saying that there are ways to load the car up if it isn't making boost.

Also, is the comparison of boost between an in-car gauge and a dyno plot? They may well vary.
...........but if my guage says 30 psi right or wrong it should still hit that mark.........
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
...........but if my guage says 30 psi right or wrong it should still hit that mark.........
As long as you're looking at your gauge both times. (on the road and on the dyno)

You can't compare what your gauge is saying with what the dyno says for boost. Not all MAP sensors are spot-on, thats a fact.
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boost wasn't recorded on the graph............but like said above and as soon as i drove the car home it made full boost on the road..........
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Originally Posted by Christian and Beccy
Not true. It depends on whether the operator knows how to.

It's not good to put too much load on either, in my opinion, AVA's rollers are FAR too hard on the car.

They are the only ones that can create similar loads to a top speed run Christian hence why when I do top speed runs I dont need to watch AFR gauges and listen to det cans cos I know the engine can already take it.
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Originally Posted by pete mcrash
need to come up there Euan.............the cars getting painted soon the re-mapped.......so i'll be up for a ride up

I have spoken to Alan various times about other peoples problems using different rollers and all he said was that was that if a car was on his rollers it would see boost like it does on the road.

IMO most other power runs are over far too quickly to actually let you see whats happening with a car.
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I don't especially watch det or AFR on the runway.
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