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Old 27-08-2008, 07:07 PM
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Default What Turbo for the Westy....

Was settled on a T34 .63 housing bog standard Escos Turbo...

now thinking of and Diva and Guzzler kinda convinced me to get a T34 .55 with 360 bearing and 7 degree cut down blades...

Stu reckons the T34 .63, saying a more progressive Turbo is the way....

what you reckon? this is a LIGHT car don't forget... too much punch could be a bad thing!

thoughts?

earlier I was all over the .55 now swaying back to the .63

.55 is quite a bit cheaper as well, but thats not really the issue actually.


Engine is BOG standard apart from rebuilt with uprated gaskets and bolts and newly pocketed pistons (thanks Steve!!! )
Old 27-08-2008, 07:11 PM
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I dont think the .55 is any benafit over a .63, So .63 with no cut back for me.

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Old 27-08-2008, 07:11 PM
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Old 27-08-2008, 07:13 PM
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Old 27-08-2008, 07:13 PM
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Im no expert but i would go for the .63

cheaper as well
Old 27-08-2008, 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Tev
Im no expert but i would go for the .63

cheaper as well
about Ł200 more actually....
Old 27-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie

now thinking of and Diva and Guzzler kinda convinced me to get a T34 .55 with 360 bearing and 7 degree cut down blades...
What was their reasoning?
Old 27-08-2008, 07:18 PM
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Personally I'd go with Stu and Sheady!
Old 27-08-2008, 07:19 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I dont think the .55 is any benafit over a .63, So .63 with no cut back for me.

Mark
Thanks Mark

Obviously a valuable opinion

and its hadly a lag monster that Turbo is it? And should be more controllable I hope!
Old 27-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mike C
What was their reasoning?
Punchier and with the cutback blades it can still flow almost the same as a .63

with the 360 bearing it should be more reliable as well. AND its cheaper....
Old 27-08-2008, 07:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I dont think the .55 is any benafit over a .63, So .63 with no cut back for me.

Mark

im with mark on this why people go mad for cutting the blades back is beyond me, its done to improve the flow of the turbine at high revs, but loses it at the lower end, the 0.63 will be ideal on that engine pal.
Old 27-08-2008, 07:22 PM
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thanks Markk and Dave.....

oh well... now do I go for a rebuilt .63 with a 360 bearing or a BRAND new bog standard one. ( new one is Ł200 more....)
Old 27-08-2008, 07:23 PM
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I am no expert at all.. but with the car being so light, i'd imagine a .63 would be better,

as that would very slightly shift the power/boost further up the range.. where it might actually get traction!? (thinking lower gears mainly)

slightly more up top too? (than a .55 would?)

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Originally Posted by Porkie
thanks Markk and Dave.....

oh well... now do I go for a rebuilt .63 with a 360 bearing or a BRAND new bog standard one. ( new one is Ł200 more....)
I would go for the new one, Unless you have a realy good turbo guy.

Mark
Old 27-08-2008, 07:25 PM
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GB Solutions will give you all the advice you need Lee

Saw this today, this would be ideal....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-T34-T...d=p3286.c0.m14
Old 27-08-2008, 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by pee vee
I am no expert at all.. but with the car being so light, i'd imagine a .63 would be better,

as that would very slightly shift the power/boost further up the range.. where it might actually get traction!? (thinking lower gears mainly)

slightly more up top too? (than a .55 would?)
sounds like an expert view to me
Old 27-08-2008, 07:26 PM
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new turbo, dont fook about.
Old 27-08-2008, 07:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
sounds like an expert view to me

LOL also, just noticed your wanted thing in your sig..

not 100% sure but Might have a 4x4 manifold in the shed.. will have a look later/tomorrow
Old 27-08-2008, 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by StickerPaul
GB Solutions will give you all the advice you need Lee

Saw this today, this would be ideal....
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/COSWORTH-T34-T...d=p3286.c0.m14
cutback blades for faster spool.....

CUNT
Old 27-08-2008, 07:31 PM
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Why not control the power delivery with boost control?
Old 27-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark Shead
I would go for the new one, Unless you have a realy good turbo guy.

Mark

Doh.... this has gone from a freebie to a grands worth

Think you are right though.... do it once and do it proper!

although the Turbo would be reconditioned and 360'd by Turbo Technics and they are just about the best aren't they?

Peevee... I'm skint now ... is it free?
Old 27-08-2008, 07:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Porkie

Peevee... I'm skint now ... is it free?
Not something i thought i'd hear!!


I aint got any use for it now.. so yeah i spose lol
If i've still got it. cant remember it being cracked or owt.
Old 27-08-2008, 11:10 PM
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cut back exhaust turbine blades are to reduce turbine speeds at high boost levels to prevent exhaust wheel and shaft failure
Old 27-08-2008, 11:18 PM
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have you got the .55? id personally keep the .63 as you its to you recommended and dont cost you a penny to keep , shall look forward to seeing this about one day
Old 27-08-2008, 11:24 PM
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Old 28-08-2008, 12:27 AM
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So after all that, if you had listened to uncle Stu earlier today you could have ordered it and had it on its way!!!

You were the one telling me in the week that you didnt want it too punchy and now your trying to convince yourself to get a smaller one.

Well I think the PF massive have voted so get that T34 ordered!!!!!!

Drakey has that brand new T38 sitting in the back of the focus doing nowt just to add to the confusion!!!!
Old 28-08-2008, 12:47 AM
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Did I ever mention that I think a GT3071 might be a good option?
Old 28-08-2008, 04:56 AM
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Old 28-08-2008, 05:50 AM
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small turbo escos or rouse

a t34 .63 is a nightmare in a mk2 escort, nevermind a bathtub. i would be going for something that comes in very easily so can be controlled by the throttle pedal
Old 28-08-2008, 06:36 AM
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id say a .48 with some Bd10's going on my last engine for power delivery not sure how the traction would be with the response of that turbo though
Old 28-08-2008, 06:48 AM
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Is traction that bad with Westy's then? surely with a set of good tyres like R888's or summat, the car won't break traction?
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trouble i suspect is the weight of the car, tryes will probably be fine once you have traction but if its too "punchy" it might just break away.............probably more to do with power delivery than outright grip?
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Roller-bearing T34 on a 0.48 a/r with the boost curve mapped to suit .

I would rather have the side-ways action controlled by my right foot than being able to mash the peddle to the floor and the lag taking care of it and then BANG, a huge step in power as the boost comes rushing in at 3500rpm .

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Old 28-08-2008, 08:04 AM
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Honestly, I'd go with Chip on this one !!
Old 28-08-2008, 08:12 AM
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Confused again now
Old 28-08-2008, 08:15 AM
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I'd say it depends on what power level you are trying to get from the turbo? also the whole lag thing on this size of turbo is never going to be an issue apart from when your first setting off, once rolling your going to be in the power band by using the gears anyway,

Therefore a better flower turbo like the .63 will reduce things like turbo wear and general heat build up,

Depending on boost pressure you want to run cutting the blades back can improve spool up
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Get a HX30.
Old 28-08-2008, 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Porkie
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As ive got a T34.63 already in the boot of my car ready to bring up and fit, why dont you drive it on that and then make a decision after?

Ive also got a .48 housing we can swap on at a later date to try too if you want.

I still say gt3071 though personally, lol
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Chip... thats awesome. Seriously mate you just put a HUGE smile on my face.

THANKS SO MUCH!

AWESOME AWESOME AWESOME!
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Originally Posted by Porkie
Confused again now
It's easily done with you .

At the end of the day, you have to decide on how YOU want the car to drive and then describe that to someone like Chip / Stu etc, and let THEM chose the turbo.

If they're adamant about a T34 0.63 a/r, at least get the roller-bearing cored version - will be stronger than a normal thrust bearing .


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