Boost spikes and boost controllers
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Boost spikes and boost controllers
I run a greddy profec spec b and to really get the best from my MSD chip i really need the midrange boost spike
Question is can i do it on this on this controller??
Don't get me wrong its great as it is (boosting to 24 psi all the way!!)
but with the extra mid i feel it would be better
Opinions and suggestions please
Paul
Question is can i do it on this on this controller??
Don't get me wrong its great as it is (boosting to 24 psi all the way!!)
but with the extra mid i feel it would be better
Opinions and suggestions please
Paul
#7
Yup, thats a problem with most these boost controllers, they dont allow spikes, great at accurate boost control, but just at holding it at a set level.
You mention boost spikes in the Jap scene and they think its a REALLY bad thing, I almost got banned from SXOC before for arguing about it.
Reason they think its bad is they have never experienced anything but spiking being refered to as a bad thing, as their boost controllers dont allow it in a constructive way.
My HKS controller is allowing a massive spike at mo as its fucked, no control at all, seems to have jammed shut
You mention boost spikes in the Jap scene and they think its a REALLY bad thing, I almost got banned from SXOC before for arguing about it.
Reason they think its bad is they have never experienced anything but spiking being refered to as a bad thing, as their boost controllers dont allow it in a constructive way.
My HKS controller is allowing a massive spike at mo as its fucked, no control at all, seems to have jammed shut
Last edited by Stavros; 08-08-2008 at 09:48 PM.
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#9
You can have a spike with most, but it isn't rpm related - it's when you first come on boost. It hits a setpoint and then falls back to what u set the duty cycle too.
Eboost2 and AVCR allow full RPM based control which is v good. EG - fwd u can make the boost come in more gradually near peak torque for traction, then give u a mid range spike, and also allow the boost to come in quickly when ur past peak torque.
Eboost2 and AVCR allow full RPM based control which is v good. EG - fwd u can make the boost come in more gradually near peak torque for traction, then give u a mid range spike, and also allow the boost to come in quickly when ur past peak torque.
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I run a greddy profec spec b and to really get the best from my MSD chip i really need the midrange boost spike
Question is can i do it on this on this controller??
Don't get me wrong its great as it is (boosting to 24 psi all the way!!)
but with the extra mid i feel it would be better
Opinions and suggestions please
Paul
Question is can i do it on this on this controller??
Don't get me wrong its great as it is (boosting to 24 psi all the way!!)
but with the extra mid i feel it would be better
Opinions and suggestions please
Paul
#22
Costina,
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
Last edited by ECU Monitor Enthusiast; 06-09-2008 at 01:44 AM.
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Costina,
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
how are you buy the way ??????????
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Costina,
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
From my experience of the spec B controller, it is very good at doing what its designed to do. Doh !
I.E. closed loop flat line boost !
I think you will find it will not let you do what you want just by adjusting the controls as it will just re-learn your boost levels.
You could try adding a bleed valve in line with the actuator with a restriction in line just after the controller output.
Just be carefull !!!
Cheers Si I've had a play and it won't do it so i need another option any ideas??
Paul
#25
Having said that, Sheddy likes a boost spike so you would have had to bin it anyway.
I am fine thanks, How the family is well mate
#26
I would go for a new mappable boost controller. The profec B will fetch good money in the jap market
#28
[quote=Flux Capacitor;3559347]Your actuator is probably faulty
Having said that, Sheddy likes a boost spike so you would have had to bin it anyway.
Simon not correct no spike for me as I want as much boost everywhere so this is not a spike
Mark
Having said that, Sheddy likes a boost spike so you would have had to bin it anyway.
Simon not correct no spike for me as I want as much boost everywhere so this is not a spike
Mark
#29
Sorry, I was generalising as I know you to max it !
Last edited by ECU Monitor Enthusiast; 06-09-2008 at 05:54 PM.
#30
I have a Blitz SBC-id that I used on my 300zx before i bought my 3dr. It has a scramble boost feature that allows you to run high boost spike for a programmed number of seconds. I dont use that though as I only have a stock T3 so just running a flat 22psi on greens.
It also links to a speed/power meter so you can speed map it and have boost changing at different speeds, that was good as you can have the boost coming in lower through the first couple of gears to keep wheelspin down. But i cant use that feature either cos the cossie dosent have an electronic speed sensor LOL.
It also links to a speed/power meter so you can speed map it and have boost changing at different speeds, that was good as you can have the boost coming in lower through the first couple of gears to keep wheelspin down. But i cant use that feature either cos the cossie dosent have an electronic speed sensor LOL.
#31
A boost spike, is not good boost control, and the Greddy will not do it....certainly in a controlled and reliable fashion.
If you want to program a boost curve with different rpm's, you will need a different controller.
If you want to program a boost curve with different rpm's, you will need a different controller.
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